No Oppo Supporters Non Bulldog Footy Talk - Bulldogs only - Part 4

[gangsta deluxe]

"When you are defending your own country And the vast majority of people in it"

FAKE NEWS

 

[D Mitchell]

They are.
The ABC Standard is far more stringent than the regular Codes of Conduct applied to other broadcasters, and the ABC is subject to far more scrutiny.

They aren't.

ACMA is the Regulator. It requires a Code of Conduct and Standards from all Media bodies bar 2. codes are required to comply with an array of laws. It is up to the the participating Bodies to set Standards and to satisfy ACMA that their Codes and Standards comply. All bodies are required to register Codes and Standards with ACMA except the ABC & SBS.

The complaints and enforcement process is the same for everyone, including the ABC. Any complaint goes to the Body first and if the complainant is not satisfied, he/she/it can take it to ACMA. According to Gerard Henderson, Australian journalist, in 2019, 96 % of complaints to the ABC were dismissed. Whether that of the ABC is any more stringent than others is as matter of opinion only. Why do you say that the ABC Standard is far more stringent than the regular Codes of Conduct applied to other broadcasters and that the ABC is subject to far more scrutiny ?

 

[ossie_21]

 

[Mofra]

They aren't.

ACMA is the Regulator. It requires a Code of Conduct and Standards from all Media bodies bar 2. codes are required to comply with an array of laws. It is up to the the participating Bodies to set Standards and to satisfy ACMA that their Codes and Standards comply. All bodies are required to register Codes and Standards with ACMA except the ABC & SBS.

The complaints and enforcement process is the same for everyone, including the ABC. Any complaint goes to the Body first and if the complainant is not satisfied, he/she/it can take it to ACMA. According to Gerard Henderson, Australian journalist, in 2019, 96 % of complaints to the ABC were dismissed. Whether that of the ABC is any more stringent than others is as matter of opinion only. Why do you say that the ABC Standard is far more stringent than the regular Codes of Conduct applied to other broadcasters and that the ABC is subject to far more scrutiny ?

Because it actually is - under the Federal legislation a Standard is enforceable, whereas a Code is subject to direction to comply before it is subject to further regulatory action.
A Standard is 'made' under the powers granted to the regulator (generally after being given a Direction by the Minister), where a Code is drafted as an industry body and the ACMA can choose to register it or request amendments of the industry representative body who drafted it prior to registration. You don't 'register' a Standard.

Additionally, the ABC Standard has more stringent requirements than the Broadcasting Codes of Conduct including accuracy and fairness provisions not replicated in the Codes.
The ABC has also been subject to more reviews than any other broadcaster in Australia, SBS included. The most recent Blackburn report (2020) reported that the ABC met its impartiality standard.

 

[Dogs_r_barking]

They aren't.

ACMA is the Regulator. It requires a Code of Conduct and Standards from all Media bodies bar 2. codes are required to comply with an array of laws. It is up to the the participating Bodies to set Standards and to satisfy ACMA that their Codes and Standards comply. All bodies are required to register Codes and Standards with ACMA except the ABC & SBS.

The complaints and enforcement process is the same for everyone, including the ABC. Any complaint goes to the Body first and if the complainant is not satisfied, he/she/it can take it to ACMA. According to Gerard Henderson, Australian journalist, in 2019, 96 % of complaints to the ABC were dismissed. Whether that of the ABC is any more stringent than others is as matter of opinion only. Why do you say that the ABC Standard is far more stringent than the regular Codes of Conduct applied to other broadcasters and that the ABC is subject to far more scrutiny ?

If you repeat a lie often enough, people believe it is true (looking at you Credlin, Bolt and co) The ABC is not biased, they have been reviewed the most out of any media organisation, and in fact have shown they are slightly more favourable to the Libs.

They espouse values that conservative thinkers on the extreme right object to because conservatives like to keep hold of the status quo, and not change, preserving their advantage and rights over the needs of others. Fortunately the ABC appeals to most people including centrists.

It just shows how wacky Australian politics has become over the last 20 odd years that our public broadcaster has become so targeted.

 

[maddog37]

Footy talk. Footy. Thread title.

 

[ossie_21]

Footy talk. Footy. Thread title.

Scully retired from the Hawks, so with Patton likely to also retire/be sacked or at the very least not play for a very long time, it looks like their top-up strategy has finally failed.

Now I am just hoping for Geelong to fall off a Hawks-sized cliff and all will be well in the AFL world

 

[Yojimbo]

Scully retired from the Hawks, so with Patton likely to also retire/be sacked or at the very least not play for a very long time, it looks like their top-up strategy has finally failed.

Now I am just hoping for Geelong to fall off a Hawks-sized cliff and all will be well in the AFL world

The assets that Hawthorn coughed up for Scully and Patton, both former number one draft picks means it's hard to categorize those acquisitions as losses even if they had a high ranking on the busted arse list of champions.

 

[Ant_]

Scully gone... gee we got stiffed with the Callan Ward

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Callan Ward

Age

34

Ht

187cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.8

5star

K

11.2

4star

HB

11.5

5star

M

3.8

4star

T

4.3

5star

CL

5.4

5star

D

17.8

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

8.8

4star

M

2.3

2star

T

2.3

3star

CL

3.3

4star

D

10.0

3star

K

4.4

2star

HB

5.6

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.8

4star

compo in comparison

 

[Mofra]

Scully retired from the Hawks, so with Patton likely to also retire/be sacked or at the very least not play for a very long time, it looks like their top-up strategy has finally failed.

Now I am just hoping for Geelong to fall off a Hawks-sized cliff and all will be well in the AFL world

I think we have to wait 12 months. 2021 is their last shot at it, with Jez Cameron having a hammy and Dahlhaus under an injury cloud too,

Hawkins, Higgins, Isaac Smith, Selwood, Dangerfield - they're all just a calf injury away from being a shadow of their former selves.

 

[Prince Imperial]

Scully gone... gee we got stiffed with the Callan Ward compo in comparison

Career Brownlow Votes:

Ward 85
Scully 23

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Footy talk. Footy. Thread title.

What's happened to Big Footy, it used to be fun.

 

[Yojimbo]

What's happened to Big Footy, it used to be fun.

Is bigfooty a reflection of life or is life a reflection of bigfooty.

When life leaves you cold and you feel like a chump,
Just close your eyes and blame Donald Trump.

 

[Chicago1]

So tonight on Ch 7's news it was suggested that Eddie is in "the hot seat". Clever.

 

[Norm De Guerre]

What's happened to Big Footy, it used to be fun.

Yeah, the fun went out of this place sometime late June 2013.

 

[MYOB]

Yeah, the fun went out of this place sometime late June 2013.

I get it and I agree 100%.

 

[Northernsoul74]

Yeah, the fun went out of this place sometime late June 2013.

 

[bresker]

As an Irish immigrant who works with Indigenous kids, the problem with Australia isn’t just overt racism. It’s the pretence that we’re all one big jolly country and racism is only practiced by ‘bad’ people. We’re in complete denial about our past and present. Racism isn’t about individuals, it’s systemic. Good on Collingwood for addressing the issue.

 

[Bro_Pro]

brain hurts lots!!

 

[D Mitchell]

Blackburn report (2020)

Thank for the informative material.

In post 2,576, I asserted that 'They (ABC) should be impartial and accountable.'

Your response, in post 2,597, was to assert that the ABC is impartial and accountable because

(a) its Standards are more stringent than the Codes of Conduct of others; and

(b) the ABC is subject to far more scrutiny than others

Assuming that (a) and (b) are accurate, don’t they set out why the ABC should be impartial and accountable i e stringent requirements and scrutiny ? Isn’t your authority for your claim that the ABC is impartial and accountable the report presented by Kerry Blackburn based on her observations in the lead up to the 2019 election ? That was a limited assessment of one week’s observation in the week before the election. She reported that her review was not a comprehensive analysis and was intended to give ABC editorial managers starting points for discussion. She concluded that ABC News demonstrably seeks and overwhelmingly achieves impartiality. I wouldn’t dispute that, ABC News reporting is excellent, that isn't where its failures in impartiality and lack of accountability manifest.

 

[D Mitchell]

If you repeat a lie often enough, people believe it is true (looking at you Credlin, Bolt and co) The ABC is not biased, they have been reviewed the most out of any media organisation, and in fact have shown they are slightly more favourable to the Libs.

They espouse values that conservative thinkers on the extreme right object to because conservatives like to keep hold of the status quo, and not change, preserving their advantage and rights over the needs of others. Fortunately the ABC appeals to most people including centrists.

It just shows how wacky Australian politics has become over the last 20 odd years that our public broadcaster has become so targeted.

That's a very clever little piece of ambiguity you've built into the first 4 words inside the open bracket, even if you'd plonked in a comma after 'you', the ambiguity would survive. I don't think politics has become whacky over the last 20 years as much as having shifted to the Left over the last 40. Think of it as a pendulum. In the early 80s a voter who is a constant sitting comfortably as an ALP voter now finds that the pendulum has moved to the left so the ALP is off where the Socialists and Communists once stood, the Coalition is where our constant voter is now more comfortable and the Minors (Hunters and Shooters, Hansonites, Palmers) are where the Coalition was.

 

[The Buck]

That's a very clever little piece of ambiguity you've built into the first 4 words inside the open bracket, even if you'd plonked in a comma after 'you', the ambiguity would survive. I don't think politics has become whacky over the last 20 years as much as having shifted to the Left over the last 40. Think of it as a pendulum. In the early 80s a voter who is a constant sitting comfortably as an ALP voter now finds that the pendulum has moved to the left so the ALP is off where the Socialists and Communists one stood, the Coalition is where our constant voter is now more comfortable and the Minors (Hunters and Shooters, Hansonites, Palmers) are where the Coalition was.

 

[Dogs_r_barking]

That's a very clever little piece of ambiguity you've built into the first 4 words inside the open bracket, even if you'd plonked in a comma after 'you', the ambiguity would survive. I don't think politics has become whacky over the last 20 years as much as having shifted to the Left over the last 40. Think of it as a pendulum. In the early 80s a voter who is a constant sitting comfortably as an ALP voter now finds that the pendulum has moved to the left so the ALP is off where the Socialists and Communists once stood, the Coalition is where our constant voter is now more comfortable and the Minors (Hunters and Shooters, Hansonites, Palmers) are where the Coalition was.

Wow I must have been living in a different Australia back then, when a Liberal government accepted the Vietnamese refugees, who have since proven to be a hard working community, who have broadened and contributed immensely to our way of life. Quite a contrast to today’s government who locks them up for 8 years off shore, even though they have proved they are genuine refugees.

If you found yourself out of work, you received assistance to support yourself and help you look for work. Today it has all been privatised, so a shoddy company making money out of unemployment, and a government who hounds people with a highly illegal Robodebt scheme.

Years ago a minister resigned for not declaring a gift of a bottle of wine, today anything goes, you just go to the back bench and wait for the next cabinet reshuffle.

Anyway apologies to those who don’t like to see threads derailed, i will not contribute anymore, no point when someone is so fixed in their view of the world.

 

[Beasley]

Scully gone... gee we got stiffed with the Callan Ward compo in comparison

That was the first thing I thought of when I heard the news. Still shits me that Melbourne got 2 first round picks and we only got 1!

 

[Yojimbo]

That was the first thing I thought of when I heard the news. Still shits me that Melbourne got 2 first round picks and we only got 1!

The AFL wishes to advise that there was a significant differential in the contract offer to Scully, to those of Ward and Davis, and it was therefore determined that the compensation package for Melbourne should be in the highest band.

Hang on a unicorn just knocked on my front door, i have to answer it.

Thank you for page 106. (My new favorite number)