Opinion Non-Crows AFL 12: It's the confectionery with 1000 uses

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

We don't have much finals experience but we don't have finals scars either.

2015 and 2016s finals experience (and the two meek away losses to finish each campaign) didn't help us stand up on Grand Final day in 2017.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

A loss to Collingwood means Geelong can win out and leapfrog us due to them playing potatoes in their next 3 games. Brisbane will finish ahead of us if they win out from here if we lose to Collingwood.

# may finish ahead.

Nothing is certain as Lions have tough games which are not guaranteed wins!

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

To be fair, the current top 5 is bloody scary. I don’t think I’m confident about beating any of them, but the same can be said about us.

I think we should win finals, but can't see us going all the way against the big 3 with premiership experience.

Hope I'm wrong.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Record vs top 8 is sobering

0-1 Collingwood
1-0 Brisbane
0-1 Geelong
0-1 Freo
1-1 Suns
1-1 Hawthorn
1-0 Giants

4-5

What is interesting is look at the home & away split of the top 9 against each other.

There is only 1 team that has done well away - Fremantle.

 

[WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot]

# may finish ahead.

Nothing is certain as Lions have tough games which are not guaranteed wins!

I said they will finish ahead if they win out and we lose a game. That is a fact.

I said nothing about the certainty of them winning those games, just that if we lose to Collingwood and Brisbane will all 3, they finish ahead.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I said they will finish ahead if they win out and we lose a game. That is a fact.

I said nothing about the certainty of them winning those games, just that if we lose to Collingwood and Brisbane will all 3, they finish ahead.

Posters are getting too caught up in possible scenarios.
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We are currently in pole position, but most top sides are playing each other, so no one can predict the finishing order with any certainty.

Just sit back & we enjoy the ride as we know we are playing finals & very likely home finals or 2.

 

[MatthewB]

out of left field

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

out of left field

Does he have the skills set?

 

[Bovo]

I don't really understand the rules around finals experience. If we make a prelim everyone in the team's played two finals.

Is that worse than if we'd made eliminations twice in previous years and lost?

I agree. I think an easy run into finals would be a bigger shock than a couple of really tough encounters leading up to it. If anything, that Hawks game was as good any exposure to finals. I dare say Collingwood will be the same.

 

[Bovo]

Does he have the skills set?

He’s got a fairly sizeable nose.

 

[MatthewB]

Does he have the skills set?

from his Linkedin

"I am a co-founder of Launchd, a technology and service business operating in the sports and entertainment industry, providing access to over 5000+ talent for events, ambassadorships, social media activations, marketing and promotions; and a SaaS product (Works) for rights holders around the globe to better manage and report on their talent activations.

Another business interest of mine is PMY Group where I am a Business & Commercial manager. PMY Group is a technology, strategy, management and investment business that makes complex digital and technology projects simple for our clients.

I am a former passionate President of the AFL Players Association and spent 9 years as a member of their board the directors.

Throughout my AFL career, I was extremely proud to have completed a Bachelor of Science degree and also a Masters of Business Administration from the University of Western Australia."

 

[Geoffa32]

from his Linkedin

"I am a co-founder of Launchd, a technology and service business operating in the sports and entertainment industry, providing access to over 5000+ talent for events, ambassadorships, social media activations, marketing and promotions; and a SaaS product (Works) for rights holders around the globe to better manage and report on their talent activations.

Another business interest of mine is PMY Group where I am a Business & Commercial manager. PMY Group is a technology, strategy, management and investment business that makes complex digital and technology projects simple for our clients.

I am a former passionate President of the AFL Players Association and spent 9 years as a member of their board the directors.

Throughout my AFL career, I was extremely proud to have completed a Bachelor of Science degree and also a Masters of Business Administration from the University of Western Australia."

Dubious experience.....

 

[WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot]

Posters are getting too caught up in possible scenarios.
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We are currently in pole position, but most top sides are playing each other, so no one can predict the finishing order with any certainty.

Just sit back & we enjoy the ride as we know we are playing finals & very likely home finals or 2.

The reality is none of us have any impact on whether the Crows (or any other club) wins or loses their last 3 games.

So all any of us can do is speculate and come up with various possible scenarios.

 

[Geoffa32]

Pavlich as Swans CEO seems under qualified .

I guess when you think about it AFL clubs are not massive complex businesses.

Just high profile.

 

[Geoffa32]

Posters are getting too caught up in possible scenarios.
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We are currently in pole position, but most top sides are playing each other, so no one can predict the finishing order with any certainty.

Just sit back & we enjoy the ride as we know we are playing finals & very likely home finals or 2.

I have no expectation on making the GF.

Not saying we can't. But I see this year as a free hit after being in the Finals wilderness for 7 years.

I plan on enjoying this Finals ride.

Will be happy, and do expect to finish top 4 (most likely top 2) and win a Final.

Anything else a bonus.

Not really our time yet. A lot more improvement to come.

 

[SugarShane]

out of left field

Pavlich and Cox running Sydney. What a weird combo.

 

[Southerntakeover]

We don't have much finals experience but we don't have finals scars either.

2015 and 2016s finals experience (and the two meek away losses to finish each campaign) didn't help us stand up on Grand Final day in 2017.

If we finish top 2, that first qualifying final is era defining.

I've forever been convinced that the 2005 qualifying final is the moment our club went from feeling like a club of winners with a sense of destiny for success to a club haunted by choking. We couldn't get out from under it, and that generation handed it down to the next.

This team feels different. Let it start differently and the confidence can grow.

 

[jo172]

If we finish top 2, that first qualifying final is era defining.

I've forever been convinced that the 2005 qualifying final is the moment our club went from feeling like a club of winners with a sense of destiny for success to a club haunted by choking. We couldn't get out from under it, and that generation handed it down to the next.

This team feels different. Let it start differently and the confidence can grow.

Memory might be spotty after 20 years, but was it James Gwilt who had the game of his life along with Robert Harvey carving us up?

 

[WeeBlake]

I don't really understand the rules around finals experience. If we make a prelim everyone in the team's played two finals.

Is that worse than if we'd made eliminations twice in previous years and lost?

Yes. More experience is better.

 

[Peter Doherty]

When you put it that way my heart skips a beat!!

I mean there is also the possibility we lose to West Coast this week

 

[DJ75]

Won’t happen. There’s no need and Goody’s character has been exposed and it’s not looking pretty

I agree - only I worry about Roo's impact.
Let's hope that Davis and Balme now have more of a say than Roo does.

 

[maxlilly]

I have no expectation on making the GF.

Not saying we can't. But I see this year as a free hit after being in the Finals wilderness for 7 years.

I plan on enjoying this Finals ride.

Will be happy, and do expect to finish top 4 (most likely top 2) and win a Final.

Anything else a bonus.

Not really our time yet. A lot more improvement to come.

I think we all thought the club wasn't ready in 1997, but sometimes good things happen.
It's going to be tough but we are as good a chance as anyone this year

 

[Southerntakeover]

Yes. More experience is better.

2 games is 2 games.

The most experienced team in finals wins every premiership, or is there more to it than that?

 

[WeeBlake]

2 games is 2 games.

The most experienced team in finals wins every premiership, or is there more to it than that?

No but premiers with our level of inexperience are rare. Dees won 2 finals in 2018 (flag 21), Richmond lost in the first week of finals 13,14,15.

 

[PeterSalt]

No but premiers with our level of inexperience are rare. Dees won 2 finals in 2018 (flag 21), Richmond lost in the first week of finals 13,14,15.

I read somewhere that Hawthorn in 1971 were the last team to win it all with the same level of finals (or lack of) experience

1971 VFL grand final - Wikipedia

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