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Betting companies should be banned from advertising (anywhere - TV, internet, newspapers), and banned from sponsoring sporting teams or competitions. In other words, they should be treated exactly the same way that cigarette companies are now treated.
Agree with banning of sponsorships and being part of AFL coverage.

And I am quite active with a few betting accounts.

They should be allowed to advertise generally though.


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Agree with banning of sponsorships and being part of AFL coverage.

And I am quite active with a few betting accounts.

They should be allowed to advertise generally though.
Why should they be allowed to "advertise generally"?

I think they should be subject to the same advertising restrictions as cigarette companies.

I have no issue with them being allowed to operate. People have been gambling for thousands of years, and I see no reason or benefit in trying to prevent that from happening (problem/addicted gamblers aside). Those who are able to "gamble responsibly" should be allowed to do so.
 

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Why should they be allowed to "advertise generally"?

I think they should be subject to the same advertising restrictions as cigarette companies.

I have no issue with them being allowed to operate. People have been gambling for thousands of years, and I see no reason or benefit in trying to prevent that from happening (problem/addicted gamblers aside). Those who are able to "gamble responsibly" should be allowed to do so.

Ban fast food advertising? Alcohol advertising? Ban sugar advertising? Where do you draw the line.
 
Ban fast food advertising? Alcohol advertising? Ban sugar advertising? Where do you draw the line.
The world would almost certainly be a better place if all of those were banned... but I'm not proposing that we should go that far.
 
Goodwin's behaviour has always been a bit questionable.

Back in the mid 2000s I was told a rumour that came directly from someone within the SA footy media that Goodwin had a younger girlfriend in Melbourne who he regularly caught up with when the Crows played over there.

I don't know too much more than that other apparently a lot of the players and officials knew and turned a blind eye to it.

As they should, if someone has a girlfriend (or boyfriend) in every city they play AFL games so be it. Having club officials saying who you can and can't spend time with would be disastrous.
 
As they should, if someone has a girlfriend (or boyfriend) in every city they play AFL games so be it. Having club officials saying who you can and can't spend time with would be disastrous.

The issue was that he had a wife and kids at home in Adelaide and rules were bent in certain circumstances.
 
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The issue was that he had a wife and kids at home in Adelaide and rules were bent in certain circumstances.

Harsh as it sounds, so what.

Not an illegal activity and if it doesn't impact his onfield performances club officials should keep their noses out.

Would you like your boss to police who you spent time with?
 
It's an interesting rabbit hole. Should infidelity be an issue in a professional capacity and once more - where do you draw the line?
It shouldn't be an issue - however - when your colleagues / teammates are aware of it, and they know your spouse, you are creating a tension / conflict for them. Even if they manage to "stay out of it" and not say anything (to either you, or your spouse). You are implicitly asking them to "cover for you" and that's not fair. I can see where it might be an issue, especially in a close-knit team environment.
 

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Harsh as it sounds, so what.

Not an illegal activity and if it doesn't impact his onfield performances club officials should keep their noses out.

Would you like your boss to police who you spent time with?

I was just pointing out that Goodwin seems to have a history of poor judgment, I wasn't trying to take a shot at the club
 
One of the things I think is really interesting out of the Goodwin news, is that Gil went to Melbourne with his concern over Goodwin's behaviour and suggested they consider removing him. Melbourne took this information and didn't sack him. They obviously then went on to win the flag.

What would we have done in the same situation? Under Chapman, we would have absolutely sh!t ourselves and sacked Goodwin within 30 seconds. What would Olsen do? Do we have the courage to say no yet?
 

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So someone's been sitting on this Melbourne story for how long now?

Yeah, seems pretty pointless now. What do they expect will happen? Melbourne sack Goodwin? He just won them their first flag in 50+ years.

He could turn up at their next board meeting, climb onto the table, take a dump on it then walk out without saying a word and they wouldn't sack him. Hell, they'd probably very carefully scoop up the turd and put it on display in the club museum.
 
Yeah, seems pretty pointless now. What do they expect will happen? Melbourne sack Goodwin? He just won them their first flag in 50+ years.

He could turn up at their next board meeting, climb onto the table, take a dump on it then walk out without saying a word and they wouldn't sack him. Hell, they'd probably very carefully scoop up the turd and put it on display in the club museum.

And rightly so.
 
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