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Of course Clubs abide by the rulings of Club Doctors .....no pressure brought to bear
Melbourne coach crisis: Simon Goodwin’s alleged expletive-laden rant at club doctor
Premiership coach Simon Goodwin delivered an abusive, expletive-riddled tirade to Melbourne’s senior doctor in a bid to pressure him not to rest concussed player Angus Brayshaw, the medico alleged in legal papers.The fiery exchange allegedly took place after Goodwin questioned long-time club head doctor Zeeshan Arain’s advice that Brayshaw needed to go home “following an exacerbation of his concussion symptoms”.
“Are we f--ken fair dinkum,” Goodwin was alleged to have asked Dr Arain.
“Why the f--k would you change the plan when we agreed he could push through his comfort zone. F--king (player’s name) was at Chadstone with his mates last Thursday but is f--ken concussed today.”
The alleged conversation was included in legal documents lodged with the Melbourne Football Club by Dr Arain’s lawyers as part of an unlawful dismissal dispute in October 2020.
Dees mute on doc’s claims of concussion pressure
Melbourne has defended its governance of player welfare but refuses to answer questions over allegations coach Simon Goodwin pressured a former club doctor not to rest concussed midfielder Angus Brayshaw.
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Of course Clubs abide by the rulings of Club Doctors .....no pressure brought to bear
Melbourne coach crisis: Simon Goodwin’s alleged expletive-laden rant at club doctor
Premiership coach Simon Goodwin delivered an abusive, expletive-riddled tirade to Melbourne’s senior doctor in a bid to pressure him not to rest concussed player Angus Brayshaw, the medico alleged in legal papers.
The fiery exchange allegedly took place after Goodwin questioned long-time club head doctor Zeeshan Arain’s advice that Brayshaw needed to go home “following an exacerbation of his concussion symptoms”.
“Are we f--ken fair dinkum,” Goodwin was alleged to have asked Dr Arain.
“Why the f--k would you change the plan when we agreed he could push through his comfort zone. F--king (player’s name) was at Chadstone with his mates last Thursday but is f--ken concussed today.”
The alleged conversation was included in legal documents lodged with the Melbourne Football Club by Dr Arain’s lawyers as part of an unlawful dismissal dispute in October 2020.
Dees mute on doc’s claims of concussion pressure
Melbourne has defended its governance of player welfare but refuses to answer questions over allegations coach Simon Goodwin pressured a former club doctor not to rest concussed midfielder Angus Brayshaw.
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Being frustrated is one thing. What I want to know though, is when did this take place and what was the outcome? Did Brayshaw sit out? Was his concussion symptoms reported and did he go through the full protocols, or was the doctor ignored?Of course Clubs abide by the rulings of Club Doctors .....no pressure brought to bear
Melbourne coach crisis: Simon Goodwin’s alleged expletive-laden rant at club doctor
Premiership coach Simon Goodwin delivered an abusive, expletive-riddled tirade to Melbourne’s senior doctor in a bid to pressure him not to rest concussed player Angus Brayshaw, the medico alleged in legal papers.
The fiery exchange allegedly took place after Goodwin questioned long-time club head doctor Zeeshan Arain’s advice that Brayshaw needed to go home “following an exacerbation of his concussion symptoms”.
“Are we f--ken fair dinkum,” Goodwin was alleged to have asked Dr Arain.
“Why the f--k would you change the plan when we agreed he could push through his comfort zone. F--king (player’s name) was at Chadstone with his mates last Thursday but is f--ken concussed today.”
The alleged conversation was included in legal documents lodged with the Melbourne Football Club by Dr Arain’s lawyers as part of an unlawful dismissal dispute in October 2020.
Dees mute on doc’s claims of concussion pressure
Melbourne has defended its governance of player welfare but refuses to answer questions over allegations coach Simon Goodwin pressured a former club doctor not to rest concussed midfielder Angus Brayshaw.
The answers to these questions are critical.
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But only AFL players and no-one else....
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I'm kinda on Goodwin's side in this debateOf course Clubs abide by the rulings of Club Doctors .....no pressure brought to bear
Melbourne coach crisis: Simon Goodwin’s alleged expletive-laden rant at club doctor
Premiership coach Simon Goodwin delivered an abusive, expletive-riddled tirade to Melbourne’s senior doctor in a bid to pressure him not to rest concussed player Angus Brayshaw, the medico alleged in legal papers.
The fiery exchange allegedly took place after Goodwin questioned long-time club head doctor Zeeshan Arain’s advice that Brayshaw needed to go home “following an exacerbation of his concussion symptoms”.
“Are we f--ken fair dinkum,” Goodwin was alleged to have asked Dr Arain.
“Why the f--k would you change the plan when we agreed he could push through his comfort zone. F--king (player’s name) was at Chadstone with his mates last Thursday but is f--ken concussed today.”
The alleged conversation was included in legal documents lodged with the Melbourne Football Club by Dr Arain’s lawyers as part of an unlawful dismissal dispute in October 2020.
Dees mute on doc’s claims of concussion pressure
Melbourne has defended its governance of player welfare but refuses to answer questions over allegations coach Simon Goodwin pressured a former club doctor not to rest concussed midfielder Angus Brayshaw.
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Not sure an expletive laced tirade is a winner in any debate
Goodwin's issue - as I read it- is that a medical plan was agreed to and - somehow the doctor felt the plan needed changing.
If that's because Brayshaw hit Chaddy with his mates is not the doctors problem but Goodwins.
An assessment was made and the doctor got bolloxed for it
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Kinda depends on context - if he was speaking reasonably calmly in frustration or screaming that at him from a foot away.
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A bigger deal out west.
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I hope they do for the storyline though. To sack the coach who broke the "Norm Smith" curse after winning a premiership is poetic.
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Only sportspeople, and no-one else......
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Absolutely dodged that bullet.
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That won't happen. This is "news" a year old. Melbourne have already had the review, cleared him of bullying, and decided that drinking and gambling with the boys is not sacking material.
One has to wonder why there is a big fuss now, 12 months after.
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Speculatively, I think its pretty safe to say it occurred in 2017 when Goodwin came to the club. The article mentions a plan and a return to training (which presumably would mean missed games). He played all games in 2018/2019. Played all the games in 2020 up until foot surgery ruled him out.
So to me it sounds like 2017 when he was dealing with his potential career ending concussions (I believe he had 4 in the space of 12 months). He played rounds 1 & 2. Then played rounds 21,22,23.
The only reports of missed training I could find is when he hurt his elbow smothering a kick in preseason 2020 (and he had a huge brace on it). I don't think there was any wrong doing here with regards to player care and if there was - the Dr would presumably be in as much strife as Goodwin since it occurred in 2017 and he used in a 2020 grievance claim.
To me the situation just screams that we are in the middle of a really slow sporting news cycle.
It makes sense. It comes as no surprise that Goodwin was under massive pressure to retain his job at the end of 2020. He led a massive resurgence for the club to go from 11th before he got there to 5th and a prelim within 24 months. The next two seasons he failed to make the finals and questions were being asked.
Its a beautiful bit of click bait "journalism". Its a dramatic headline "Premiership coach almost sacked before grand final triumph".
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As well as wives and children in their home state?
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Wasn't it the doctor?
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I think we'll see many more of these Melbourne stories as more and more people push for football clubs to become safe work places.
And sure fair enough outside of the football side, we don't need accountants shouting at the marketing department or whatever.
But I don't know, it's elite sport and the pressure is high, I expect people are going to have heated conversations.
If we won a premiership, as a supporter and member, I'm not too worried if a few feelings get hurt along the way.
And sure fair enough outside of the football side, we don't need accountants shouting at the marketing department or whatever.
But I don't know, it's elite sport and the pressure is high, I expect people are going to have heated conversations.
If we won a premiership, as a supporter and member, I'm not too worried if a few feelings get hurt along the way.
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