Oppo Camp Non Eagles AFL discussion thread II

[RookiePick]

Wow.

You just know the AFL is trying to avoid a "Fyfe Brownlow" situation.

I guess the precedent is there now - anyone fronts the tribunal for a late elbow to the head, play the Gazza tapes.

But the tribunal ignores precedent.

It's a mickey mouse body purely there to deliver the AFL the most profitable outcomes.

 

[woosha24]

But the tribunal ignores precedent.

It's a mickey mouse body purely there to deliver the AFL the most profitable outcomes.

True. One day someone needs to take the tribunal to actual court.

 

[squashface]

Didn’t think there was anything Ablett hit personally.

Looked like he was trying to soften the contact so careless and a fine is about right.

 

[Keys]

Didn’t think there was anything Ablett hit personally.

Looked like he was trying to soften the contact so careless and a fine is about right.

Thought Michael Christians grading as intentional was off the mark - it was pretty sloppy from Ablett but not for one moment did I think he intentionally tried to hit Shiel

He’s lucky that he didn’t hit him flush and cause more damage because it was reckless. Comes back to the AFL putting too much weight on the outcome and not enough on the potential to cause injury

 

[Smeg Head]

Lets face it, the tribunal continues to be a joke

 

[Ishmael_]

What is the point of the MRO if the Tribunal just throws out every low-grade offence?

It's like Christian gives the week so he/the AFL can look tough and then the tribunal throws it out so fans don't get annoyed about the game becoming soft or something.

What a joke.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Outcome based tribunal continues to be a farcical approach. Off the ball shots to the head are all clear provided nobody gets badly hurt.

Never mind that the exact same hit could have vastly different results if it connects 1cm apart, let’s just continue to allow people to hit high but make sure to crack down super hard once a year. Well done AFL.

 

[Ishmael_]

Didn’t think there was anything Ablett hit personally.

Looked like he was trying to soften the contact so careless and a fine is about right.

My issue with fines is that they are so low as to be pointless and to my knowledge aren't adjusted for individual player earnings.

Suspend them or just call them out as very naughty boys and tell them not to do it again, because that's essentially what they're doing at the moment.

 

[RookiePick]

Outcome based tribunal continues to be a farcical approach. Off the ball shots to the head are all clear provided nobody gets badly hurt.

Never mind that the exact same hit could have vastly different results if it connects 1cm apart, let’s just continue to allow people to hit high but make sure to crack down super hard once a year. Well done AFL.

I think that is the thing. Gaff deserved his 8. The missed shots deserve 3 or 4. Would cut it all out in half a season

 

[HoneyBadger35]

I think that is the thing. Gaff deserved his 8. The missed shots deserve 3 or 4. Would cut it all out in half a season

100%.

Jumping and connecting with the head, whether intentionally connecting high or not, is a recipe for someone getting concussed or a broken jaw/cheekbone. Stamp it out.

I don’t wish for anyone to get injured, but I think the coverage of an identical incident in which the recipient wound up with a broken jaw would be fascinating.

 

[EdCurnowRules]

Accidental contact by Ablett with no injury of any kind. Sure he jumped but reckon it was an attempt at a spoil. Right outcome

 

[RookiePick]

Accidental contact by Ablett with no injury of any kind. Sure he jumped but reckon it was an attempt at a spoil. Right outcome

A spoil? Shiel had kicked the ball already

 

[Yamumluvsbigcox]

People are gonna boo ablett more now

 

[Big Cox 88]

What is more farcical is that the Tribunal didn't charge Shiels' head for making contact with Ablett's forearm after he disposed of the ball.

 

[woosha24]

People are gonna boo ablett more now

It'll be our fault though. Somehow.

 

[Luuuc]

Didn’t think there was anything Ablett hit personally.

Looked like he was trying to soften the contact so careless and a fine is about right.

Yeah, I said pretty much the same thing yesterday.
It was pretty obvious to me that there was plenty of detail that would go in Ablett's favour on this one. I get why the MRO goes by a basic formula, and I get why he got off too. I actually don't have a problem with how this incident went. To me it is just a case of the system doing its job properly.

If others see it differently mostly on the basis of thinking that Ablett is a tool and therefore wanting the worst possible outcome for him, then I completely understand and respect that too.

 

[boondy]

Ablett got off cos Shiel was a left footer , if you smack a right footer in the head you have no excuse . He expected his head to be somewhere else .

 

[EdCurnowRules]

A spoil? Shiel had kicked the ball already

Not sticking up for Garry for a second, but it’s clearly not his best work - it’s was either a poor excuse for a spoil or a poor excuse for karate, either way nothing happened to Shiel he got his free kick which was about all it warranted. It was a late clip for sure, dumb / reckless whatever and high but only worth a fine. I hope if this happens to one of ours we get the same treatment

 

[Cuzz09]

Watching the replay of Liverpool v Barcelona 2nd leg CL and the Liverpool fans boo every time Barcelona touch the ball. Literally the whole game.

Get over it AFL.

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[ioppolo]

That last goal was amatuer hour from Barcelona

 

[RookiePick]

Not sticking up for Garry for a second, but it’s clearly not his best work - it’s was either a poor excuse for a spoil or a poor excuse for karate, either way nothing happened to Shiel he got his free kick which was about all it warranted. It was a late clip for sure, dumb / reckless whatever and high but only worth a fine. I hope if this happens to one of ours we get the same treatment

I think the problem is most folks feel like the tribunal works mostly on star rating. Same offense - Gablett on anyone, thrown out. No Name player on Shiel - weeks. No name player on No name player - 1 week.

Leaping off the ground and raising your arm is a poor way to try and minimise the impact. Gablett had committed, couldn't pull up and was going to give away a late contact free - this happens. Sometimes you go in hot thinking you can get there in time to impact the disposal but you misjudge it. Wrapping Shiel up with his arms while trying to slow down would have been a lot safer. Same free kick conceded but the chances of elbowing the opponent in the head is basically zero.

 

[whatis]

Campaigners campaigning early: https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl...enew-push-for-home-final-20190507-p51l08.html

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Campaigners campaigning early: https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl...enew-push-for-home-final-20190507-p51l08.html

To be fair they’ve just spent at least $100mil to upgrade the stadium, if it can fit 40k in then surely that’s enough for an early finals round.

I mean **** Geelong but you should be able to host your home finals wherever you like if you earn it.

 

[Keys]

Campaigners campaigning early: https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl...enew-push-for-home-final-20190507-p51l08.html

Have no issue with Geelong playing home finals at their dung heap should they earn that right. It’s actually how it should be. The problem I have is with this :

Cook confirmed he believed the AFL’s position will be to have the Cats host a final at the MCG unless they were to play an interstate side.

That’s just ****ed - you either play it at Kardinia Park for any team or not at all. Finances should never take precedence over fairness but that’s the way the “not for profit” AFL rolls

 

[MrKK]

I've no problem with Geelong hosting finals at KP as long as it's ALL finals. Sending only interstate clubs down there screws those clubs and Geelong while giving yet another undeserved finals leg-up to the bigger Melbourne clubs.