Oppo Camp Non-Eagles Discussion

[Chief]

Continued in Part 2:

Oppo Camp - Non-Eagles Discussion

Who gives a **** about finals anyway So overrated It’s all about the draft these days

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[Goroyals22]

The issue wasn't him 'being religious', it was being head of an organisation preaching hate.

But don't let me stop you getting offended at people getting offended.

Not offended at all, it has no effect on me however the whole way of the world being as it is that if you kick enough of a stink up you can get someone fired without cause is disturbing.

Fact is as far as I know you can’t discriminate in hiring or firing someone for their religious beliefs…. Now unless he has come in and decided to uproot in 24 hours the Essendon football club and cancel pride week jumpers and throw gays out of the the club then he has done nothing wrong…. He is also being done over for something someone else said in 2013 not himself… at least his statement showed more class than the twitter mob and the always offended in this matter…

But anyway. Stuff Essendon.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

So Essendon hire an outside consultant to review the club

Appoints him as CEO after the review is complete ignoring among other things that he was drum marched out of his job at NAB

Within 24hours his links to a church with less than progressive social views are highlighted and he resigns rather than turn his back on his church

Quite brilliant

I don’t want his links to a hugely bigoted church to gloss over just how funny it is that he was leading the review to appoint a new CEO and just appointed himself.

 

[MrKK]

Their B+F was last night and he surely would have presented too. Fans would have bought in to the new vision and changing executive makeup.

Tremendous.

Apart from the church stuff, you'd think the circumstances of his NAB departure would've put them off. Resigned after the Royal Commission slammed them and failed to notice his EA was pilfering millions right under his nose.

 

[The Passenger]

The issue wasn't him 'being religious', it was being head of an organisation preaching hate.

But don't let me stop you getting offended at people getting offended.

Conservatives always say bullshit like "you need to respect people's viewpoints".

Total crap.

People are allowed to have different viewpoints but there is absolutely nothing - in law or any sort of moral code - that says you have to respect that view.

Freedom of speech has never meant freedom of consequences or criticism or freedom to a platform.

 

[Truckosaurus]

Trying to think how Essendon's year can get worse. Timed out of their first round pick maybe?

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Just wrecked by Aston here.

God saved Essendon from Andrew Thorburn

The appointment of the former NAB CEO to run the Essendon Football Club landed like a turd in the punch bowl.

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[Truckosaurus]

Well la di dah, look who subscribes to the Fin Review

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Well la di dah, look who subscribes to the Fin Review

Ha. I don’t. Can access by clicking on link via Twitter. Try clicking through

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Must suck getting getting caught up in something that you had absolutely nothing to do with and don’t endorse.

 

[Truckosaurus]

Too good not to steal

 

[Ilkka Sinisalo]

Well done Essington…

On the bright side with views like this he could easily move to the United States and run for Senate as a Republican.

 

[squashface]

My old man is a Bombers supporter.

I don't even bother with the lol texts anymore when they implode again these days - the man has been through enough.

 

[Bender_]

 

[squashface]

Yes mate you were kicked out because you’re a Christian, nobody can even begin to understand how oppressed you must feel.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Dude is so far up his own arse he should go to conversion therapy.

 

[Ochre]

the man has been through enough.

No doubt, and who did you say he supports again?

 

[HoneyBadger35]

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Yes mate you were kicked out because you’re a Christian, nobody can even begin to understand how oppressed you must feel.

 

[WCE_phil]

Seriously i thought his exit letter was perfectly fine. What did he do that was so offensive to effectively be sacked overnight on the basis of his religious beliefs?

 

[Smeg Head]

Put aside the religion stuff.

The bloke is a ****ing massive crook from his time at NAB, should be in jail.

 

[ep2018]

On the bright side with views like this he could easily move to the United States and run for Senate as a Republican.

Most dems run on this shit too (sometimes pretend as atheists are not trusted there).

 

[Inside Bull]

Freedom of speech is not really a protected right in Australia, limited both through society and government (see hate speech laws, protest restrictions, sedition, terrorism laws)

However, I would argue freedom/tolerance of speech is a useful tool for society, even if it isn't enshrined in law. Doesnt matter whether it is 70s conservatives banning rap music or what has happened here. Otherwise speech and the reaction to it just becomes a tool of those with institutional power.

I struggle to see how this outcome is good for society. On one side we have a person who was ostensibly willing to put their personal views to one side and treat everyone equally. On the other we have people who want nothing to do with a fundamentalist Christian and who claim they are oppressed but just so happen to have the power to get this guy forced out of his job at a football club.

I guess at the end of the day this chaos is Essendon's doing by not screening him out at the decision-making stage. But that would only hide the issue at hand here.

 

[ep2018]

I guess at the end of the day this chaos is Essendon's doing by not screening him out at the decision-making stage. But that would only hide the issue at hand here.

I imagine he was screened but they were not expecting people to speak out about it including a state premier and an ex Greens leader.

Once the link between his beliefs and the fact that the club has a first year womens team made up of the people his church demonizes he was a goner.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Freedom of speech: Walking into the boss’ office and telling them to get *ed.

Freedom of expression: Walking into the boss’ office and shitting on their desk.

Freedom from consequence: Non existent. You will be fired.

 

[kane249]

Freedom of speech: Walking into the bosses office and telling them to get *ed.

Freedom of expression: Walking into the boss’ office and shitting on their desk.

Freedom from consequence: Non existent. You will be fired.

So we are finding out more about how Badge quit his job just before the 2018 grand final

 

[Ilkka Sinisalo]

I struggle to see how this outcome is good for society. On one side we have a person who was ostensibly willing to put their personal views to one side and treat everyone equally. On the other we have people who want nothing to do with a fundamentalist Christian and who claim they are oppressed but just so happen to have the power to get this guy forced out of his job at a football club.

He's the chairman of a church which thinks that people should pray the gay away and women who are r*ped should still have the rape baby. Essendon and the AFL as a whole promote tolerance and support of gay people (including the freedom to engage in gay relationships, get married, have families, etc) and also has a significant women's league. Being the head of that church is incompatible with being the CEO of a football club.

If those are not his personal views, I would ask why he feels comfortable being the chairman of a church which has espoused those views, including continuing to espouse those views during his time at the church. He claims that he doesn't personally believe those things, but he sure as hell has not made any moves in his authority as a leader within that church to get them to rethink their policies on the gay community, abortion, etc.