Oppo Camp Non-Essendon Thread X

[yaco55]

WC VS North. Cripps =11 tackles, Lecras=12 tackles, Darling =10 tackles. 3 forwards have 33 tackles and yet WC kick 6 goals. Something is wrong.

 

[yaco55]

Didn't see much today from Cameron to indicate that you would break the bank to recruit him. He doesn't hit up at the ball, whcih of course is the biggest criticism of Carlisle as a forward.

 

[Zach Package]

I am not sure that list management is completely the responsibility of a coach in this day and age but he has to have some involvement. This fourth area looms as the biggest of all the problems.

I've had many a rant about Richmond's list managment over the last 18 months and often got shot down by Tigers supporters, who all lauded the reciting of Chaplin and Hampson, who are now genuine liabilities both for on field and contract reasons.

I don't think you can hang list management on Dimma, he might well have said we want mature bodies, but that doesn't mean bring in blokes who genuinely aren't up to it, that's on the recruiters. If they wanted a mature 3rd tall defender they could have gone after Hombsch, they went Chaplin, if they want size around the contest they could have looked at blokes like Aidan Riley or Mav Weller, not Matt Thomas. The philosophy was still completely off in my opinion and is going to absolutely gut them in the medium term, but the execution has been absolutely deplorable.

The Hampson trade pretty much sums it up, their list manager is heard to remark 'yeah we don't really rate the draft into the 2nd round', so they turf it for Hampson. They missed out on some incredibly talented kids because they wanted to recruit an additional insurance ruck man... If he didn't rate the draft then maybe he should be the one to go.

also, this is pretty sad

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...o-racist-attacks/story-fni5f22o-1226938416121

FORMER Port Adelaide and Essendon forward Che Cockatoo-Collins is shattered after his oldest son quit the game because of a case of racial vilification.

It comes as the game is celebrating its Indigenous Round.

Cockatoo-Collins, who played 85 games with Essendon and 75 with Port from 1994-2003, said the game has missed out on a potential top-10 draft pick after under-14 player Sachem turned his back on the game.

It has led Cockatoo-Collins to seek out legal advice, and the family is now considering making a complaint to the Australian Human Rights Commission as well as the Anti-Discrimination Commission Queensland.

Sachem was racially abused by a boundary umpire in a club game, was allegedly called “******’’ by the umpire and targeted with remarks from the official suggesting he should watch his back.

Cockatoo-Collins’ son has since been targeted via social media.

He played out the year, was named best afield in last year’s grand final but then handed in his jumper.

A distressed Cockatoo-Collins has since sought the counsel of fellow Essendon player and human rights activist Michael Long and the AFL’s Jason Mifsud to get some closure to the matter.

Former Fitzroy player Michael Conlan, who is now the from AFL Queensland chief executive, said the league was strong on the issue of racism.

“AFL Queensland took the issue very seriously and an independent investigation resulted in a number of actions against the club and those involved,’’ Conlan said.

“In addition, an education program was conducted to raise awareness of racial vilification and discrimination issues and to emphasise the expectations of all club personnel.

“There is no tolerance for vilification of any kind in Australian football and the impact in this case underlines the deep hurt that it can cause.’’

But Cockatoo-Collins felt the issue had essentially been brushed aside and said he his family had suffered deeply from the incident, which happened last year.

The reason it has come to a head now is that they witnessed the same umpire officiating this month.

The Cockatoo-Collins family feels it was not consulted in the matter and was under the impression the umpire had been banned for two years, rather than two weeks.

If Cockatoo-Collins had his way, the umpire would be banned for life.

Collins spoke to The Sunday Mail and was emotional about the fall of events.

“We have three sons,’’ Cockatoo-Collins said.

“Stirling is eight and Preston 10 and they look up to their big brother.

“I was angry, yelling and crying.

“As parents we still feel guilty we were not there to protect our son.’’

Cockatoo-Collins and his wife have busy weekends shipping their sons around to various sporting engagements and were not at the game.

His main reason for pursuing this matter is not about the incident itself, but about how it was handled and how football can rid itself of racism.

“It sends mixed signals and confuses those parents of minority backgrounds,’’ Cockatoo-Collins said.

“This is something we did not want to revisit as a family and we feel let down and hurt.

“As a family we don’t want any other child to be subjected to this.’’

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

Really good win by North and WC are shit.

 

[Lord Nicholson]

North are esoteric and strange.

WCE are shit as expected. I hope everyone in the media who slobbered over them in the first few rounds when they beat some of the all-time great sides have been catalogued and will be summarily ridiculed from now on.

 

[Kakkle]

The Shaun Hampson trade is still perplexing to me, as it was when I first heard about it.

F**k. Who wouldn't want a 18 year old in Tom Cutler, Nick Robertson or Jay-Kennedy Harris over a 26 year old insurance ruck man? What the hell is Orren Stephenson then?


Can you remember the last time they recruited and developed a ruck man into an AFL quality player and remained at Richmond? I sure as f**k can't.

 

[eth-dog]

The Shaun Hampson trade is still perplexing to me, as it was when I first heard about it.

F**k. Who wouldn't want a 18 year old in Tom Cutler, Nick Robertson or Jay-Kennedy Harris over a 26 year old insurance ruck man? What the hell is Orren Stephenson then?


Can you remember the last time they recruited and developed a ruck man into an AFL quality player and remained at Richmond? I sure as f**k can't.

I was going to say Stafford but he was from the Swans wasn't he?

 

[Doss]

I was going to say Stafford but he was from the Swans wasn't he?

Yes he was.

 

[Kakkle]

Yep. 134 games at Sydney before coming to Richmond.

 

[Kakkle]

Bloody hell that Brad Ottens trade.

 

[Kakkle]

Do I recall Addam Maric being picked up by Richmond after being delisted by Melbourne?

 

[Doss]

Do I recall Addam Maric being picked up by Richmond after being delisted by Melbourne?

Yes. That remains possibly their most baffling recycling of all.

He was an absolute spud.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

Tom Mother****ing Hislop

 

[Phone]

it's lonergan, every day of the week. there was no defence for it. he was not a young player who maybe just needed some love. he was a 25yo, one dimensional midfielder, who had shown no improvement for 6 or so years. given hardwick's obsession with dropping shane tuck, lonergan as squad depth didn't even make sense.

 

[Kakkle]

Look at some of these names they've drafted or picked up from 2008 onwards -

Shaun Hampson
Ricky Pettard
Todd Banfield
Matt Thomas
Sam Lonergan
Aaron Edwards
Chris Knights
Troy Chaplin
Orren Stephenson
Addam Maric
Steven Verrier
Gibson Turner
Piva Wright
John Heslin
Brad Helbig
Dean Macdonald
Tom Derickx
David Gourdis
Ben Jakobi
Brad Miller
Troy Taylor
Matthew Dea
Jeromey Webberley
Ben Nason
Andrew Browne
Robert Hicks
Pat Contin
Relton Roberts (****ing Relton Roberts!)
Nicholas Westhoff
Jamie O'Reilly
Jayden Post
Tom Hislop
Tyrone Vickery
Alroy Gilligan
David Gourdis

 

[Kakkle]

Surprised they didn't pick up guys like Jacob Surjan and Jack Anthony.

 

[Kakkle]

Steven Salopek would be one of their best midfielders.

 

[Kakkle]

I hear Richmond is looking at the following -

Jason Porplyzia
Brent Moloney
Stefan Martin
Simon White
Quinten Lynch
Ben Hudson
Tony Armstrong
Kepler Bradley
Brad Sewell
Matt Spangher
Ben Jacobs
Sam Wright
Scott McMahon
Tom Logan
Trent Dennis-Lane
Terry Milera
Beau Maister
Ryan O'Keefe
Lewis Robert Thompson

 

[Ben the Gooner]

Tom Logan is $1.01 to be at Richmond next year if there isn't a backroom cleanout.

 

[Burzum]

Look at some of these names they've drafted or picked up from 2008 onwards -

Shaun Hampson
Ricky Pettard
Todd Banfield
Matt Thomas
Sam Lonergan
Aaron Edwards
Chris Knights
Troy Chaplin
Orren Stephenson
Addam Maric
Steven Verrier
Gibson Turner
Piva Wright
John Heslin
Brad Helbig
Dean Macdonald
Tom Derickx
David Gourdis
Ben Jakobi
Brad Miller
Troy Taylor
Matthew Dea
Jeromey Webberley
Ben Nason
Andrew Browne
Robert Hicks
Pat Contin
Relton Roberts (******* Relton Roberts!)
Nicholas Westhoff
Jamie O'Reilly
Jayden Post
Tom Hislop
Tyrone Vickery
Alroy Gilligan
David Gourdis

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

Me after Rance gifting a goal to Bobcat.

 

[Beerfish]

Had already forgotten about Miller..

 

[Lord Nicholson]

Surprised they didn't pick up guys like Jacob Surjan and Jack Anthony.

Oh man. I only remember Surjan because of the Commetti call of "Chaplin to Surjan, usually it's the other way around."

One could make the argument that these names could go to a better club and actually play some kind of role. Perhaps. But they just get Richmondised.

 

[Loonerty]

Great movie.

 

[Kong]

He's an amazing player, for sure.

I don't like him because he's a sook, a stager and a dirty player.

I first noticed it years ago when he ran up and elbowed Hird in the back, only to then sook and carry on when players remonstrated with him later on.

Oh look: