Official Draft and Trade thread

[Longy413]

your getting 2 for the price of one, solly has about 5 years of footy in him if he dedicates himself, we got dempsey last year at 19, this years draft is better. drum may break his leg next year? who knows

Would you give up Dempsey for someone like Jon Hay and the Kangaroos second pick?

Hay like Solly at his best is a very valuable player, both have a series of question marks. Mind you, Solly probably has Hay covered.

Sure picks in the early 20's of draft are of great value, but they come with a risk. With Dempsey we know have a player capable of making an impact in the AFL, someone that could develop into a real star. Sure, he might get injured, but on talent and application alone, we know he is a sure thing.

A pick in the early 20's might get you better talent, but there is still a question mark over application and impact at AFL level. You also set yourself 12 months back in the development process.

I suspect for Fremantle, they see Drum in the same light.

 

[stander]

Settle down, sunshine! It couldnt hurt if there wasnt anything on offer and he made himself available. If Lloyd takes a while to return to his best...and it has happened once in his career (his finger injury)..we're going to need all the firepower we can get our hands on to post some early wins on the board. Not to mention, Milne up front and crumbing will release Lovett and Hird further up the ground. We're still not sure what Johns will offer us yet also.

It could hurt a lot- haven't you learnt your lesson about guys like Milne. Cupido readily springs to mind. Whoever is giving serious thought about drafting/trading Milne to EFC has no idea.

 

[daveyboy3]

It could hurt a lot- haven't you learnt your lesson about guys like Milne. Cupido readily springs to mind. Whoever is giving serious thought about drafting/trading Milne to EFC has no idea.

How did Cupes hurt us? He performed better than what we gave for him.

 

[Longy413]

How did Cupes hurt us? He performed better than what we gave for him.

Which was virtually nothing considering he came with McPhee and a first round draft pick.

The difference between Cupido and Milne is Cupido was a kid who had a series of injuries, had undoubted talent but had yet to display it. He'd played a handful of games and had yet to crack it for a regular spot.

Milne has six years of consistent performances behind. He's a proven performer, you can't do that without a level of commitment. There are few proven forward pocket players and there are just as few proven back pocket players running around at the moment. Milne is one of the best in the league. He is nothing like Cupido.

If we get rid of blokes like Bolton, Peverill, Henneman, Solomon, someone like Milne or Notting is a good acquisition to take their spot in the side.

 

[Merv]

I can assure you we will not be getting Drum in the solly deal.
Freo and in particular R.Shaw believe he is a future star of the AFL.
I'm hoping we can trade solly to freo as his best football is a clarly a long way behind him, and he, like Essendon, have been going in a downward direction lately.
Essendon on one hand should rectify that direction in the future, solly won't.
I think one thing that could interrupt the solly trade is the Tarrant deal.
I'm sure Freo's priority will be Tarrant, thus leaving the possibility of running out of time for Solly.

GET THORNTON

 

[Merv]

Which was virtually nothing considering he came with McPhee and a first round draft pick.

The difference between Cupido and Milne is Cupido was a kid who had a series of injuries, had undoubted talent but had yet to display it. He'd played a handful of games and had yet to crack it for a regular spot.

Milne has six years of consistent performances behind. He's a proven performer, you can't do that without a level of commitment. There are few proven forward pocket players and there are just as few proven back pocket players running around at the moment. Milne is one of the best in the league. He is nothing like Cupido.

Spot on.
Not that i think Milne is waht we NEED, but he certainly would be of tremendous value to us.
I doubt it will happen


GET THORNTON

 

[Longy413]

I doubt it will happen

Neither do I, but I have no problem with the club exploring that avenue.

We should be looking at EVERYONE.

 

[danzan22]

because of our needs at chb, should essendon be looking a R Furgeson, showed some good form last year and i dont think we would have to give much for him. thoughts?

 

[Merv]

Neither do I, but I have no problem with the club exploring that avenue.

We should be looking at EVERYONE.

Exactly right.
I am really getting sick of people complaining and criticising the club about our poor season.yet when the club is exploring EVERY option open to them improving, they criticise again.

LOOK at everything, MOVE on best options.


GET THORNTON

 

[Longy413]

because of our needs at chb, should essendon be looking a R Furgeson, showed some good form last year and i dont think we would have to give much for him. thoughts?

IMO Andrew Lee is a much better option. Stronger, better athletic ability.

Ferguson is 25 and yet to cement a spot, I know he's been injured but he really is still a developing player. If we can't get someone like Thornton, persist with Lee. He's a talent.

 

[Longy413]

Exactly right.
I am really getting sick of people complaining and criticising the club about our poor season.yet when the club is exploring EVERY option open to them improving, they criticise again.

LOOK at everything, MOVE on best options.


GET THORNTON

We are agreeing far too much. I don't like it

 

[Crave]

It could hurt a lot- haven't you learnt your lesson about guys like Milne. Cupido readily springs to mind. Whoever is giving serious thought about drafting/trading Milne to EFC has no idea.

If we were to gain Milne...it would cost us barely anything that we deem of value for us. You need to remember that most of the players we gained from other clubs gave us one great year before tapering off dramatically. Odds are, Milne has proven ability and terrific goal sense.
If Johns or Bradley were playing for another club and we were eyeing them off as a potential trade to our club, they'd be just as, if not more of a risk that Milne. Neither have really made a mark yet, this time last year Milne had an exceptional year in front of goal...quite accurate also.
Essentially, any player we recruit can potentially excel or harm our club's chances. Thats the beauty of trading/drafting.
Dont forget we carried Rioli on our list this season for no return whatsoever. Weighing it all up...Milne has some value on him.
Not that I have any idea though...

 

[stander]

If we were to gain Milne...it would cost us barely anything that we deem of value for us. You need to remember that most of the players we gained from other clubs gave us one great year before tapering off dramatically. Odds are, Milne has proven ability and terrific goal sense.
If Johns or Bradley were playing for another club and we were eyeing them off as a potential trade to our club, they'd be just as, if not more of a risk that Milne. Neither have really made a mark yet, this time last year Milne had an exceptional year in front of goal...quite accurate also.
Essentially, any player we recruit can potentially excel or harm our club's chances. Thats the beauty of trading/drafting.
Dont forget we carried Rioli on our list this season for no return whatsoever. Weighing it all up...Milne has some value on him.
Not that I have any idea though...

There is no value in having Milne at EFC even if he does kick 1.376 goals per game. He is on the way out, and is bad news. He would rob a position in the 22 from a player who would kick a goal anyway. That is not value.

 

[Crave]

There is no value in having Milne at EFC even if he does kick 1.376 goals per game. He is on the way out, and is bad news. He would rob a position in the 22 from a player who would kick a goal anyway. That is not value.

You havent acknowledged any points Ive mentioned. Barnes was on his way out at the Cats with King taking no. 1 ruck duties when he arrived again. Id say he was very valuable in 00/01.

 

[Longy413]

There is no value in having Milne at EFC even if he does kick 1.376 goals per game. He is on the way out, and is bad news. He would rob a position in the 22 from a player who would kick a goal anyway. That is not value.

A player like Mark Bolton?

 

[stander]

You havent acknowledged any points Ive mentioned. Barnes was on his way out at the Cats with King taking no. 1 ruck duties when he arrived again. Id say he was very valuable in 00/01.

You said you had no idea, so what's the point. Barnes filled a big hole when he came back- there is no hole for Milne to fill that can't be done with what is already there, coming along, and arriving this draft,and maybe even the next one. In fact I would rather keep Reynolds than take on Milne.

 

[stander]

A player like Mark Bolton?

Even he could kick a goal game if parked around the goal square picking up some Lloyd scraps.

 

[Crave]

You said you had no idea, so what's the point. Barnes filled a big hole when he came back- there is no hole for Milne to fill that can't be done with what is already there, coming along, and arriving this draft,and maybe even the next one. In fact I would rather keep Reynolds than take on Milne.

Firstly, did you sense any sarcasm in my post? Secondly, Milne has the runs on the board...Reynolds has barely cut the oranges

 

[stander]

Firstly, did you sense any sarcasm in my post? Secondly, Milne has the runs on the board...Reynolds has barely cut the oranges

I just thought you were being self deprecating as usual . Can't see any value in Milne, lost a lot of wickets too in my book. What do you expect from Reynolds when they play him on Fevola etc.

 

[Longy413]

Even he could kick a goal game if parked around the goal square picking up some Lloyd scraps.

Please....

Let's be serious.

 

[Crave]

I just thought you were being self deprecating as usual . Can't see any value in Milne, lost a lot of wickets too in my book. What do you expect from Reynolds when they play him on Fevola etc.

HAHA you idiot! Thats fair enough in regards to your opinion on him.. Reynolds lost me quite a while ago...this year didnt help his cause

 

[Crave]

Please....

Let's be serious.

Too late for that...we have an official draft complaint thread

 

[Merv]

We are agreeing far too much. I don't like it

Yes, it is a concern, leave me with it, i will get back to you....


GET THORNTON

 

[EssendonPride]

Just been looking into the draft a bit more...

If.. for some reason, Carlton take Leunburger or Hansen with #1, we will no doubt take Gibbs.

That leaves pick 18/20 to help with our deficiancies down back.

Any chance that we could pick up both of the Brown brothers.

At 193 and 194cm, they're tall enough.
Nathan was the u/18 AA fullback, although from what i read could play any of the key positions.

His brother, Mitchell is more of a forward, and with Lloyd and Lucas aging it's always nice to have someone developing.

Now, i've never seen either play, and pretty much only came up with this idea for the novelty of picking up brothers.

I've tried searching the Drafts and Trade board but havn't been able to find out much about them.

The AFL Insider mock draft had them going at 17 and 19 respectively to Carlton.

Just curious as to whether anyone's seen them play and could give a bit of info, or if it's a possibility??

We all know Sheeds after all.

 

[mcphee_is_a_gun]

I have a question, if we manage to get Polak would we still take Thornton in the PSD if he was available?