Official West Indies Thread

[sabso]

Good get in that Glenn Turner is right up there - he is third all time with 141 out of 169 for 83.4 per cent. And the highest for a completed team innings.

Laurence Fishlock from Surrey hit 93 out of 1-104 against the touring Australians in 1938 for the overall record.

Yep, the ACS page here doesn’t have hodge’s innings yet but his percentage of 75.90 would put him 12th for highest percentage of an all out innings.

The ACS – The ACS

stats.acscricket.com

The page also tells us that the Test equivalent of the Fishlock innings was made by the sadly missed Phil Hughes

Australia beat New Zealand, Australia won by 10 wickets

AUS (fo) 157 & 407 vs NZ 459/5d & 106/0 - Australia won by 10 wickets in Wellington, Australia tour of New Zealand 2010, March 19 - 23, 2010

www.espncricinfo.com

 

[PhatBoy]

Some other interesting tidbits out of day one of round 2 so far.

Brathwaite’s tiny little resurgence that hopefully began with that good knock in the second test against Pakistan continued with a century against the Academy side. It’s hard to tell how good their team is but they did have young Bishop who took his 7-fer in round one. Jonathan Drakes also made his second first class hundred but at 30, not sure it means a lot. His time has probably come and gone.

The other interesting score of note besides Hodge was John Campbell from Jamaica who most rusted on fans will remember as having had a reasonable stint as Brathwaite’s opening partner for 20 matches where he averaged 26 despite only passing 50 three times.

He managed his seventh first class hundred - his only issue whatsoever seems to be converting starts. He never seems to have a problem getting set at the crease. Again, like Jermaine Blackwood (Campbell is 31) it wouldn’t surprise me if he had a huge home season if he did find his way back in the side at some point if there aren’t kids bashing the door down.

The CCC side did ok against Guyana today, Johann Jeremiah has only played 8 games - needs a century but hit his fourth half century with 84 opening the batting against Shamar Joseph. Was also playing against Kevin Sinclair and Veerasammy Permaul on what is likely a Turner in Guyana.


One other thing of note: O’Shane Thomas who has only played 11 first class games across his entire career, was bowling for Leeward Islands today.

He’s Jamaican. This suggests to me he’s actually taking his cricket seriously and wants to play domestically which would be awesome because he’s furiously quick and the more guys like that in the set up, the better

 

[The Dawes]

Some other interesting tidbits out of day one of round 2 so far.

Brathwaite’s tiny little resurgence that hopefully began with that good knock in the second test against Pakistan continued with a century against the Academy side. It’s hard to tell how good their team is but they did have young Bishop who took his 7-fer in round one. Jonathan Drakes also made his second first class hundred but at 30, not sure it means a lot. His time has probably come and gone.

The other interesting score of note besides Hodge was John Campbell from Jamaica who most rusted on fans will remember as having had a reasonable stint as Brathwaite’s opening partner for 20 matches where he averaged 26 despite only passing 50 three times.

He managed his seventh first class hundred - his only issue whatsoever seems to be converting starts. He never seems to have a problem getting set at the crease. Again, like Jermaine Blackwood (Campbell is 31) it wouldn’t surprise me if he had a huge home season if he did find his way back in the side at some point if there aren’t kids bashing the door down.

The CCC side did ok against Guyana today, Johann Jeremiah has only played 8 games - needs a century but hit his fourth half century with 84 opening the batting against Shamar Joseph. Was also playing against Kevin Sinclair and Veerasammy Permaul on what is likely a Turner in Guyana.


One other thing of note: O’Shane Thomas who has only played 11 first class games across his entire career, was bowling for Leeward Islands today.

He’s Jamaican. This suggests to me he’s actually taking his cricket seriously and wants to play domestically which would be awesome because he’s furiously quick and the more guys like that in the set up, the better

I think the issue with batsmen not converting starts is not just John Campbell, it's almost endemic with the Windies - you see so many first class scores where any number of them get out between 15-40.

 

[PhatBoy]

I think the issue with batsmen not converting starts is not just John Campbell, it's almost endemic with the Windies - you see so many first class scores where any number of them get out between 15-40.

Yep it’s a huge problem.
If you watched a little 2-3 minute highlight package of them getting to 40 where you see their handful of boundaries, you’d think most of their better batsmen are at least in the same ballpark as the standard level for most domestic comps around the world.

The gap to the rest of the domestic comps in terms of how often their batsmen convert those starts into big scores, however, is massive.


There were some more scores of note overnight, will wait until the end of the matches to update fully but young Cephas (well he’s not that young but mid-20s) hit his first FC hundred

 

[PhatBoy]

Lot of rain in the third round of WI four day games so only one match - Barbados vs Jamaica produced a result with Barbados winning by 9 wickets.
Not a lot of especially great performances in that game and I can’t be f**ed going across the entire region in huge detail but suffice to say there were the usual couple of spinning five wicket hauls etc.

But some things of note:
Mikyle Louis finally regained some form with a century against TT - his test struggles have seen his FC record go quite low but removing his test record which makes up more than half of his FC innings, he actually has an average of 47.3 which is very high for a modern West Indies batsman, with 4 hundreds and 4 50s in 17 innings. Still think he’s worth persisting with at the top of the order.
Alongside him Kadeem Henry hit his maiden FC hundred in his third game.

Here’s where it gets a bit interesting from that match.

One - Joshua Da Silva who has been begging for some runs FINALLY managed not just a few, but 152 in the first innings and backed it up with an unbeaten hundred in the second, and both of them in quick time.

And this is the real quandary for the Australian series: Jason Mohammed.

He’s 38. Clearly you’d think nowhere near a test debut and a huge step back for a team trying to build. Yet he so far has 483 runs at 241.5 this season and across this season/last season he’s hit 976 at 77 with 5 centuries in 15 innings.

With more gaps than a South Sydney supporter’s jawline in the batting order, and the WTC concept in itself meaning that selectors probably look at each series a little differently than what they would in the past, you would think that there would be a huge temptation to throw him in there against the Aussies.


I will confess my awareness of JM was as a bit of a batting all rounder when I didn’t follow the domestic comps as closely and the stats seem to reflect that - he’s hit 16 centuries in 103 games which is an unremarkable but still really decent conversion rate of games/centuries, yet his average is just 33. And he’s been very prolific of late.

It suggests an incredibly slow start to his career and a lot of very low scores where he barely got off the mark.

 

[The Dawes]

interesting stat from the opening three rounds - 19 individual centuries - Mohammed has three of them including one double hundred.
Maybe there are some batting friendly pitches but it sounds promising.

 

[The Dawes]

Encouraging to see Jewel Andrew scoring some runs in the domestic comp - has 390 @ 48 so far with a century in the last game.
Get the feeling he may get rushed into the test side in the not too distant future if he keeps scoring runs despite only being 18.

 

[Great8]

Keen to see the Windies get a competent team together for the Australian tour as I’m looking forward to some good test match cricket live. I’m flying to Grenada the day before the second test starts and hoping to get to all days then fly to Antigua to rest at a resort for a couple of days and then off to Jamaica for all 5 days of the third test.
Would’ve loved to get to the first test but just didn’t fit into schedule unfortunately

 

[PhatBoy]

Encouraging to see Jewel Andrew scoring some runs in the domestic comp - has 390 @ 48 so far with a century in the last game.
Get the feeling he may get rushed into the test side in the not too distant future if he keeps scoring runs despite only being 18.

Loved seeing him finally complete that first tonne.

They have to rush him in IMO. He’s got flair and with Athanaze actually presents a threat to the opposition that the West Indies haven’t really had for a while in terms of attacking power albeit Athanaze hasn’t begun to show any consistency yet.

It sounds like a bit of a cop out to use the term but I don’t see any point in us picking a team of grinders and rather us take at least a partial ‘bazzball’ approach with a couple of guys who we take a risk on to go out and score quickly and pressure the opposition.
Andrew has to be one of them. Back him in for 12 months.

 

[Cleavy]

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/roston-chase-succeeds-kraigg-brathwaite-as-west-indies-test-captain-1486126

Roston Chase new Test captain

 

[PhatBoy]

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/roston-chase-succeeds-kraigg-brathwaite-as-west-indies-test-captain-1486126

Roston Chase new Test captain

Disgraceful decision

 

[The Dawes]

Disgraceful decision

interesting choice - who would you have chosen?

 

[PhatBoy]

interesting choice - who would you have chosen?

The first parameter you have to fill is that the player has to be able to hold their spot or be someone that is basically a guarantee to be there for the foreseeable future.

The only exception is if they are a noted captain.

Chase is neither.

I would have either invested in Alick Athanaze with a view to saying ‘here’s a spot for you for the foreseeable future. Build a team.’
Or as our best player and the one player who cannot be dropped, I’d have given it to Jayden Seales.

 

[magpiemaniac44]

Considering his batting average is 26 and bowling average is 46, makes you wonder what his actual purpose in the team is

 

[The Dawes]

Shame they can't convince Jason Holder to return to test cricket.

If they were going to parachute someone in from outside the most recent test team then I'd have voted for Josh Da Silva

 

[cricketnut14]

any reason they overlooked vice captain da silva ?

he hasn't even kept the vice captaincy and that's been handed to worrican.

 

[sabso]

Considering his batting average is 26 and bowling average is 46, makes you wonder what his actual purpose in the team is

To take 8 fors against England

 

[The Dawes]

any reason they overlooked vice captain da silva ?

he hasn't even kept the vice captaincy and that's been handed to worrican.

Da Silva wasn't picked for the most recent series.

 

[PhatBoy]

Shame they can't convince Jason Holder to return to test cricket.

If they were going to parachute someone in from outside the most recent test team then I'd have voted for Josh Da Silva

They did. He failed to play to quite the same standard he was at previously.

 

[PhatBoy]

any reason they overlooked vice captain da silva ?

he hasn't even kept the vice captaincy and that's been handed to worrican.

He was dropped in favour of Imlach for the most recent series. To be fair to him he did what he was supposed to do and went and made 3 centuries in 7 matches in the home season to try and earn his spot back.

 

[Bedi]

Keen to see the Windies get a competent team together for the Australian tour as I’m looking forward to some good test match cricket live. I’m flying to Grenada the day before the second test starts and hoping to get to all days then fly to Antigua to rest at a resort for a couple of days and then off to Jamaica for all 5 days of the third test.
Would’ve loved to get to the first test but just didn’t fit into schedule unfortunately

Lucky bugger. Solo or organised tour?

 

[PhatBoy]

Tremendous to see we still can’t beat Ireland in an ODI.

 

[ioppolo]

Tremendous to see we still can’t beat Ireland in an ODI.

Both teams are as hot and cold as each other. Guaranteed the result would be reversed if played in the Windies.

 

[corbies]

Both teams are as hot and cold as each other. Guaranteed the result would be reversed if played in the Windies.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/ireland-in-usa-and-west-indies-2021-22-1291182

 

[Great8]

Lucky bugger. Solo or organised tour?

Wife and myself.
All up it’s now 8 weeks off.
KL for a couple of days, Cairo for 4 days and then to Washington DC via Frankfurt for 3 days before heading to Grenada.
From Grenada it’s off to Antigua and then Jamaica before returning to the US for a few weeks with an Alaskan cruise tacked on at the end