Oppo Camp Offseason - Delusional Pearlers

[Smokin]

would be lucky to be top 5 young rucks, very lucky.

 

[Burzum]

I was going to say he won't be a top 6 ruck but I thought TheGeneral would post a clip of him making a standard field kick.

 

[Kong]

Yeah that sounds about right. Ruckmen ~24 and younger, who I rate higher than Kreuzer:

Leuenberger
Goldstein
Z Smith
Mumford
Naitanui

 

[Jade]

I was going to say he won't be a top 6 ruck but I thought TheGeneral would post a clip of him making a standard field kick.

LOL'd.

Or a hitout.

Not necessarily to advantage.

 

[Slattery_20]

I have serious doubts over him as a future star.

He's done well, don't get me wrong. Not many can carry a ruck division from their first year.

But he's never seemed quite good enough as either a ruckman or forward to be considered a "future elite". He reminds me a lot of Josh Fraser. Not so much in style or anything, but that he came in early, had a huge tank and pretty good mobility for a ruckman, but never really nailed one spot or the other.

He's had patches in games where he's turned it on, but he's never dominated an entire game, let alone several, which all top players do.

He'll never be an above average key forward IMO, and as a ruckman he'll be a solid citizen, similar to maybe Dean Brogan or David Hille.

Nothing wrong with that, I just don't see the star potential that so many others do.

Now Leuenberger or NicNat? Gun, gun, gun, gun, gun.

I don't see him becoming all that great a ruckman, but I think he'll be a star regardless.
Just one of those guys who knows where & how to make things happen. He's a very smart, hard-working footballer. I wouldn't read all that much into 2011 form either way.

It's like Buddy, he's not that great a mark, and not that great a shot for goal... but comfortably the best key forward in the game. Just does stuff, again and again.

 

[theboxmike]

I don't see him becoming all that great a ruckman, but I think he'll be a star regardless.
Just one of those guys who knows where & how to make things happen. He's a very smart, hard-working footballer. I wouldn't read all that much into 2011 form either way.

It's like Buddy, he's not that great a mark, and not that great a shot for goal... but comfortably the best key forward in the game. Just does stuff, again and again.

He's nowhere near Buddy, Hell id back Buddy in the ruck against Kruezer.

Warnock is the one i'm worried about, he will be far far better than Kruzer who is vastly overrated.

 

[Kong]

Yeah Warnock turned a massive corner in 2011.

He started to really dominate, the way a mobile, 210cm guy should.

I hope to God that was just a flash in the pan.

 

[lamaros]

Just so we have that comment immortalised:

In an open draft of all AFL players he'd go in top 5.

Yeah...

Also Kong, have you forgotten Ryder? Still under 24. Easily one of the best rucks in the game for his age. Has to be above Smith at the least.

Ryder is only 10 months older than Kreuzer. 4 months older than Luenberger and Goldstein. Played about twice as many games of AFL as the lot of them.

 

[Kong]

That list was not necessarily "who's most established now", but "who's shown me the most to convince me".

Ryder has the ability, but I don't think he'll ever get better than he is right now, sadly.

 

[lamaros]

That list was not necessarily "who's most established now", but "who's shown me the most to convince me".

Ryder has the ability, but I don't think he'll ever get better than he is right now, sadly.

I'm going to enjoy bumping this.

So will you!

 

[yaco55]

Kreuzer is tracking along nicely - And is under-rated by many - Think this is because he is good to very good in a range of skills - rather than sensational in one or two skills.

Fairly certain that he will not be be the best player out of his draft - Should end up in the top 6.

Would definitely have him before Goldstein and Leunberger.

And Kong - Kreuzer was clearly BOG against the Swans.

 

[Lord Nicholson]

Ryder has the ability, but I don't think he'll ever get better than he is right now, sadly.

Heretic!

I think Ryder has the capacity to be genuinely extraordinary. This might be the right thread for either extreme, though.

 

[DaSawx]

The amount of times Hirdy brings him up in an interview shows how determined he is in making Ryder an elite player, let's hope he can do it.

 

[vast]

Not to belittle Franklin who is a brilliant player, he isn't the type of player that gets neutral fans through the gate to watch him, unlike Gary Ablett Snr or to a lesser extent Fev.

LOL. You cant help but laugh.

This is from the membership thread on the main board.

 

[Kong]

And Kong - Kreuzer was clearly BOG against the Swans.

Not from where I was sitting... at the ground.

 

[Kong]

LOL. You cant help but laugh.

This is from the membership thread on the main board.

lol. There's nobody I enjoy watching more than Buddy, Essendon or otherwise.

 

[Jesse Custer]

LOL. You cant help but laugh.

This is from the membership thread on the main board.

expect really weird and stupid posts from celtic pride (lionel luther) only to disappear for a while when they slap him in the face.

 

[Jade]

LOL. You cant help but laugh.

This is from the membership thread on the main board.

Franklin is the games biggest superstar. He's a freak, and despite an intense dislike for Hawthorn i'll watch their games to see him.

 

[Sector 7G]

Not from where I was sitting... at the ground.

AFLCA Votes Round 13 2011 Carlton vs Sydney

10 Kreuzer (Carl)
8 Murphy (Carl)
4 Gibbs (Carl)
4 Yarran (Carl)
2 Goodes (Syd)
2 Scotland (Carl)

 

[Kong]

Fair enough, I'm a big support of the Coaches Award, so not much more to be said.

 

[Burzum]

LOL. You cant help but laugh.

This is from the membership thread on the main board.

I'd pay to watch Franklin play ahead of any player in carlton's history.

 

[Tassieboy]

LOL. You cant help but laugh.

This is from the membership thread on the main board.

 

[Jobe Watson]

Kreuzer will be a star. He's fantastic at ground level, great around the ground and his ruck work is good. Won't ever be in the Cox/Sandilands mould but will comfortably be in the top 5 ruckman in the league when he hits his prime.

Will just as good as Leuenberger.

 

[cash]

Not once have I started a polls thread, where I stated my opinion in the op. Not once. Not once have I started a polls thread, where I have said something like

"Last time I saw him (edit: Talking about shoenmakers), he tried to take a mark and the ball bounced of his face and opposition crumbed a goal.

Rance has a big win."

So the op thinks Rance is miles in front but starts a poll anyway? That's something I would never do.

HAD having a hissy fit on the Polls board because Rance bet Shoenmakers in a poll.

 

[Beerfish]

Fair enough, I'm a big support of the Coaches Award, so not much more to be said.

Maybe the coaches couldn't see your part of the ground.