Prediction Pick 6

[Langers is Life]

I think we can all agree that if we wanted Naughton or Brander we would have traded down to Pick 12 & 18 or 15 &17 as one or both would have most likely been available.

 

[DraftBalta]

I think we can all agree that if we wanted Naughton or Brander we would have traded down to Pick 12 & 18 or 15 &17 as one or both would have most likely been available.

Both clubs have to take a FS/AC in Naish and Ballenden... may have knocked us back

 

[swoop42]

Stephenson if he's still on the board. Big game player by all reports and I see some similarities to the game of D.Thomas. Tall, quick, a goal kicker and one who's developed his game now through the midfield.

Coffield the other seriously in the mix.

I really like the look Fogarty but he just doesn't seem like a Hine type selection to me.

Bonar a genuine smoky but not sure we'll take the risk because of his injury history.

Naughton if we go kpp.

Ultimately whoever it is will be fleet of foot IMO as we have a need for speed and we will look for a kp prospect at 38.

1.Stephenson/Coffield
3.Bonar

 

[TradeDraft]

One word. Brayshaw. Gun. Best we can get at 6. We need to focus on drafting competitive animals that strive to get the best out of themselves.

I thought that is Type Hine loves to Draft

 

[TradeDraft]

I think we can all agree that if we wanted Naughton or Brander we would have traded down to Pick 12 & 18 or 15 &17 as one or both would have most likely been available.

Doubt it as I reckon both could be gone by Pick 12 and Rumors we are Big on Naughton

 

[left at home]

Coffield, Fogarty and Naughton are likely to be the ones. Also Hine likes a player with a lot of up side so Bonar could be the pick also.

 

[Frank Gallagher]

On Hines prior form it’s nobody we’re expecting currently.

Yup, second cousin to Harvey the rabbit.

 

[Woodsman78]

Would also love Naughton but looks like he will be gone. Freo will take with pick 5.

 

[BPikkers]

Thomas and Pendlebury were considered reaches. He was reportedly going to reach for Beams at 11 until Sidebottom became available. JDG was considered a reach at the time, with many considering him outside the top 10. Freeman shouldn’t have been top 10 but he was thereabouts in most rankings iirc. Scharenberg was a genuine top rated player that slid to 6. There’s a lot of reaching going on in that bunch of players.

I remember being furious when he picked Thomas and Pendles, and annoyed when he picked JDG. Honestly, if he reaches for a player at 6 this year who’s regarded as outside the top 10 at this stage I’ll put my wait and see hat on, because his record with early picks is pretty good, even if you want to count Freeman in there.

I can tell you if the Hawks has pick 2, they were going for Thomas 100%. I knew one of the recruiters who told me that a couple of days after the draft when I thought we may have stuffed up not picking the guy the Hawks got at 3.

 

[BPikkers]

In the end who knows whether we make the right or wrong decision at 6. Some of us will be happy on draft night and some won’t based on highlights and assessments made by ‘experts’. The fact is there are kids drafted who won’t improve as much as others. Just like there are kids who will struggle with playing in the afl more than others. The kid that has the ability to really develop will be the best player of the draft. Which is probably why you don’t tend to get the best player at number 1.

 

[Apex36]

I can tell you if the Hawks has pick 2, they were going for Thomas 100%. I knew one of the recruiters who told me that a couple of days after the draft when I thought we may have stuffed up not picking the guy the Hawks got at 3.

I’m talking about public perception here, not club recruiters (although the idiot Tigers recruiter at the time was walking around laughing about how we’d ****ed up the draft, then selected Oakleigh-Nicolls with their first pick). Xavier Ellis was widely regarded as a lock for pick 2 by most, and it was a shock when we selected Thomas ahead of him. I remember Caro on the radio afterwards tearing our recruiters apart for both the Thomas and Pendlebury selections.

 

[Buckley is my hero]

Coffield, Fogarty and Naughton are likely to be the ones. Also Hine likes a player with a lot of up side so Bonar could be the pick also.

Do you mean like Sier? We're still waiting for his upside.

 

[BPikkers]

I’m talking about public perception here, not club recruiters (although the idiot Tigers recruiter at the time was walking around laughing about how we’d ****** up the draft, then selected Oakleigh-Nicolls with their first pick). Xavier Ellis was widely regarded as a lock for pick 2 by most, and it was a shock when we selected Thomas ahead of him. I remember Caro on the radio afterwards tearing our recruiters apart for both the Thomas and Pendlebury selections.

Yeah that’s him, Xavier Ellis. The Hawks picked him up only because Thomas was selected by us.

And I hear what you say.

 

[Dynamics]

I’m talking about public perception here, not club recruiters (although the idiot Tigers recruiter at the time was walking around laughing about how we’d ****** up the draft, then selected Oakleigh-Nicolls with their first pick). Xavier Ellis was widely regarded as a lock for pick 2 by most, and it was a shock when we selected Thomas ahead of him. I remember Caro on the radio afterwards tearing our recruiters apart for both the Thomas and Pendlebury selections.

Caro was talking about the game and those who play it. Of course she was wrong.

 

[Soups]

Would also love Naughton but looks like he will be gone. Freo will take with pick 5.

I would be pretty surprised if they picked up a defender. Not exactly their priority.

 

[Woodsman78]

I would be pretty surprised if they picked up a defender. Not exactly their priority.

Who are these key defenders freo have? Pearce coming off a knee reco and has risk. They'll be in to Naughton up to their ears.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

I’m talking about public perception here, not club recruiters (although the idiot Tigers recruiter at the time was walking around laughing about how we’d ****** up the draft, then selected Oakleigh-Nicolls with their first pick). Xavier Ellis was widely regarded as a lock for pick 2 by most, and it was a shock when we selected Thomas ahead of him. I remember Caro on the radio afterwards tearing our recruiters apart for both the Thomas and Pendlebury selections.

Thomas allegedly “sliding” one pick hardly makes him a Hine smokie.

 

[Apex36]

Thomas allegedly “sliding” one pick hardly makes him a Hine smokie.

Public perception at the time didn’t have Thomas at 3 iirc, but that wasn’t the point, and I never called him a ‘Hine smoky’.

Honestly, if you’re going to attempt to be a smartarse, at least a) do your research, and b) use the correct terminology. “Sliding” as you put it, would imply that Thomas was rated higher than he was taken, not the other way around.

 

[Soups]

Who are these key defenders freo have? Pearce coming off a knee reco and has risk. They'll be in to Naughton up to their ears.

Logue, Hamling and Pearce broke his leg not ACL. Johnson provides cover too. What do they have up forward and in the midfield?

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Public perception at the time didn’t have Thomas at 3 iirc, but that wasn’t the point, and I never called him a ‘Hine smoky’.

Honestly, if you’re going to attempt to be a smartarse, at least a) do your research, and b) use the correct terminology. “Sliding” as you put it, would imply that Thomas was rated higher than he was taken, not the other way around.

so every single phantom draft had ellis at two? It’s alteady been mentioned that hawthorn were heavily into Thomas. Collingwood wanted him more so they took him before hawthorns pick. He went more or less where expected so was pretty much a standard Hine pick.

Drafts are guesswork at the best of times. They don’t roll out in the specific order people expect because what other clubs decide to do or are rumoured to decide to do affects decision making.

Like last year when we took Kirby in the ND simply to ensure we stole him from Richmond who thought they had him as a rookie draft lock

 

[Schraderbrau]

I really like the look Fogarty but he just doesn't seem like a Hine type selection to me.

De Goey, Sier, Scharenberg and Wills all have similar build to Fogarty. And when we drafted Sier I remember Hine rabbiting on about how much of a powerful unit he was in stoppages. Fogarty seems to be exactly the type of guy he likes as a midfielder imo.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Thomas allegedly “sliding” one pick hardly makes him a Hine smokie.

Agreed. Thomas had a big game in the TAC Cup GF and he was expected to go top five, if anything he “slid” up, not down. Pendlebury was the smokey if any.

 

[Apex36]

so every single phantom draft had ellis at two? It’s alteady been mentioned that hawthorn were heavily into Thomas. Collingwood wanted him more so they took him before hawthorns pick. He went more or less where expected so was pretty much a standard Hine pick.

Drafts are guesswork at the best of times. They don’t roll out in the specific order people expect because what other clubs decide to do or are rumoured to decide to do affects decision making.

Like last year when we took Kirby in the ND simply to ensure we stole him from Richmond who thought they had him as a rookie draft lock

Most did have Ellis at 2, Thomas was rated by most at around 5. Most melts at the time we’re centered around the belief that we could have had Ellis at 2 and Thomas at 5. If you’d bothered to actually follow the conversation you’d know I was referring to public perception rather than what recruiters themselves thought. You’ve basically missed the entire point of my posts and then reinforced my point under the guise of an argument. Honestly I’m baffled as to why we’re having this exchange at all.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Agreed. Thomas had a big game in the TAC Cup GF and he was expected to go top five, if anything he “slid” up, not down. Pendlebury was the smokey if any.

Pendlebury was definitely a smokey.

As I originally stated, generally Hine has played a straight bat with early picks. Pendlebury and maybe de Goey the exceptions. Guessing we would have taken beams early is just that. A guess. Bottom line is we didn’t. Hine played a straight bat when Sidebottom was still available at 11.

 

[partypie]

The more time that passes the more I think it just has to be Fogarty if we can get him, or Coffield if we don't.

If one of LDU or Rayner slips I'd have to take a serious look at them, but otherwise it's Fogarty or Coffield for mine.