News Pick trade - future first for 23 and future second

[Capital Power]

Sell the farm to make Hinkley look good. Again. We're going to overpay for the fringe players who are coming and lock ourselves out of yet another draft crop.

When the fall comes it's going to be pretty spectacular. There's going to be an entire demographic of players missing from our list.

 

[Janus]

Going by pick value, if you said that Fremantle's future second was Pick 36, it's the equivalent of Pick 11 (22 +36).

Not sure why anyone is complaining? It's not like the guys we are targeting are going to make our defence any worse.

 

[philthy05]

Besides it being a gamble as a trade , the timing is just dumb.

Now we have pick 22, that’s the pick geelong and essendon are going to ask for.

Dumb dumb dumb.


If we pay pick 22 for esava everyone at the club needs to be swept out.

And it doesn’t matter if esava turns out to be Alir mark 2 and we win the premiership, because things turning out doesn’t make bad decisions/ risks into good decisions.

Going all in on a bad poker hand and landing a winning hand doesn’t make it a good decision, sometimes things fall your way.


What we have is a bunch of uncontracted player’s request by a trade to us.

We should be getting them for well unders as we have the upper hand for once.

If Essendon want a contracted duursma to unite the brothers we should be fleecing them, as we hold the upper hand.

And there’s just no way we “need” to use our future 1st, so if someone wants it we should have made out with a very very good deal fronts, not a deal that only looks good for us if “all things go to plan perfectly” ie we finish top 4 and freo finish bottom 8.

Relying on everything to fall perfectly for it to be a good deal, is not a good trade decision.

 

[rainwizard39]

Going by pick value, if you said that Fremantle's future second was Pick 36, it's the equivalent of Pick 11 (22 +36).

Not sure why anyone is complaining? It's not like the guys we are targeting are going to make our defence any worse.

Why do people go on about pick value? It has nothing to do with the reality of the trade.

Drafts have different echelons in them. The top 15 or so picks will be far better prospects then anything 36 will be.

 

[RangaInTeal]

I don’t think we’ll ever do worse than that, even based on the immediate feel of that trade

Nahhh, this is worse. There was potential for Sinn to be Chris Judd, Rat and BZT are never going to be top 5 players in their position in the competition.

And we will trade a second rounder and add Durrsma for these two-three (Sweet)

 

[growly]

You guys will finish top 4 again next year.
We will finish in the lower part of the 8 at best.

 

[Adz2332]

I don’t think we’ll ever do worse than that, even based on the immediate feel of that trade

I dunno just getting rid of ladhams was a massive win

 

[PAFCsince1870]

Besides it being a gamble as a trade , the timing is just dumb.

Now we have pick 22, that’s the pick geelong and essendon are going to ask for.

Dumb dumb dumb.


If we pay pick 22 for esava everyone at the club needs to be swept out.

And it doesn’t matter if esava turns out to be Alir mark 2 and we win the premiership, because things turning out doesn’t make bad decisions/ risks into good decisions.

Going all in on a bad poker hand and landing a winning hand doesn’t make it a good decision, sometimes things fall your way.


What we have is a bunch of uncontracted player’s request by a trade to us.

We should be getting them for well unders as we have the upper hand for once.

If Essendon want a contracted duursma to unite the brothers we should be fleecing them, as we hold the upper hand.

And there’s just no way we “need” to use our future 1st, so if someone wants it we should have made out with a very very good deal fronts, not a deal that only looks good for us if “all things go to plan perfectly” ie we finish top 4 and freo finish bottom 8.

Relying on everything to fall perfectly for it to be a good deal, is not a good trade decision.

Is there any chance at all people can wait a little bit longer than five hours into trade week before completely going off the deep end?

I'll reserve my judgement until all trades are known in their full form, not making assumptions based on no credible source.

 

[Interstater]

We never bottom out because our list management has been relatively cromulent. If Hinkley were able to make a team greater than the sum of it's parts (i.e. true avoidance of bottoming out) he would have made a GF.

Well I learnt something today.

 

[Launchpad McQuack]

Is there any chance at all people can wait a little bit longer than five hours into trade week before completely going off the deep end?

I'll reserve my judgement until all trades are known in their full form, not making assumptions based on no credible source.

Waits until end of trade period
Guys, we can't do anything about it now.

 

[x_les_x]

Think i saw somewhere that Richmond refused to deal with us for Soldo as we didnt have capital at the time. What if we used 22 on Soldo and 47 then comboed junk picks for Sweet Ratugolea and BZT

 

[philthy05]

Is there any chance at all people can wait a little bit longer than five hours into trade week before completely going off the deep end?

I'll reserve my judgement until all trades are known in their full form, not making assumptions based on no credible source.

The trade has been confirmed.

And no, we don’t need to wait until the end of trade week, our management team can be judged by the decisions they make.


Where does this idea that they’re a protected species and that we can’t judge them on their decision making come from?

 

[Grave Danger]

We're going to give Geelong pick 22 for Ratugolea aren't we.

That's what Twomey is saying.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Doedee compo moves it back to 23

 

[thundercloud]

Dont we have a promising montgomery and burgoyne next yeat as FS?

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

Dumb trade.

Selling the farm for 3 depth players.

Means we can’t go after anyone of significance next year or get a good young talent if we have a s**t year.

Bunch of people trying to protect their jobs rather than protect the future of our club.

Pathetic

 

[Interstater]

Dont we have a promising montgomery and burgoyne next yeat as FS?

That was my guess also.

 

[JakeNeadeFan]

Why do we acquiesce to clubs asking for high picks for their spuds whilst we ship off quality players for nothing?

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

Dont we have a promising montgomery and burgoyne next yeat as FS?

If I’m the next Burgoyne I’m really thinking about whether I would be selecting port, Trent delisted, Jace stagnating and barely playing in the AFL

Probs better off going to another club who

 

[davesnothere]

Pick 23 lands us Moir or Collard in the draft.
That's the small forward problem addressed.

Next year's second for Ratugolea. Geelong can death ride us.

 

[Jonts]

So the plan is to split 23 and 38 for a club with 2 picks in that range?

Neither Esava or BzT is worth 23

 

[MrChow]

Eh. I don’t mind it.

Worth playing the long game now with all of Esava, Brandon Zerk, and Sweet. Don’t need to actually trade Duursma either now

 

[JimmyBC]

Eh. I don’t mind it.

Worth playing the long game now with all of Esava, Brandon Zerk, and Sweet. Don’t need to actually trade Duursma either now

Duursma is gone

 

[EskimoPAFC]

I'm confused. If we assume the usual Hinkley slide in a non-contract year we've just traded ~pick 8 for pick 23 and pick 30?

Who are we wanting in the draft at 23? Why did we need that pick? Obviously not going to use it on any of the targets that have been spoken about openly. Just a strange one all round.

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

Eh. I don’t mind it.

Worth playing the long game now with all of Esava, Brandon Zerk, and Sweet. Don’t need to actually trade Duursma either now

If Duursma can get us a pick in the late teens or early 20s I would trade him and take it to the draft. Duursma will always be an average player