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Wayde Petersen said:Wunghnu, it is fair to say have really struggled over the last decade (especially for the last three years), being competitive in the Picola League, recieving belting after belting.
Could this be the straw that breaks the camel's back, Wunghnu coach, Kim McInnenny has walked out on the club for a third time (he first left in 2001, then 2003 then now) leaving the already struggling Magpies without a coach.
First off, why did they employ a bloke that has a history of doing runners when it gets a bit tough ?, and secondly, what happened to those gun recruits that he was supposed to have bought ?.
Perry Meka was there last season (that mercenary's been a lightning rod for trouble, for years, and most clubs wouldn't go near him with a 40 foot barge pole), and he did his usual thing (make a big mess for the incoming coach & committee to clean up), even with their backers (who have been paying big money for lousy players), it's gone pear shaped.
Wunghnu had to abandon thier Under 17's side this year due to lack of numbers, and they are down to 2 Netball sides (most PFL clubs have at least 4).
And i've heard that there's been an exodus of players that have left the club, and things sadly are looking very bad for them right now.
David Dixon and the committee have done a wonderful job in keeping the club afolat when most clubs would have folded by now, but could this be the end ?.
I hope not, because the clubs nearly 120 years old (they formed in 1885), and even if they do manage to survive this crisis, will it be worth it ?, would it be better to merge than fade away (like Invergordon) ?, is there anything they can do make things better ?.
purple hills said:Nah think it's all over for our little sheep station town near Numurkah. Good on the fella's for trying to keep the club going but, why?? If they have no players then its probly just a few committee men trying to keep something together that just isnt going to work and hasnt for the past 10 years. With 13 teams in the Picola League it is as if there is 2 byes for all clubs. 1 for the odd amount of clubs and the other you have to turn up for a training run against the Maggies.
geez, that is embarassing isn't it?? have they got any good players do you know purple hills or are they all just a bunch of youngsters or whata??purple hills said:Something has to be done fast. Results for Wunghnu on the w/e
Seniors
Tungamah 51. 29.=335
Wunghnu 5. 6.= 36
299point victors
Reserves
Tungamah 23. 18.=156
Wunghnu 1. 3.= 9
147 point victors
Seniors last with a percentage of 15
Reserves last with a percentage of 6
jmain14 said:geez, that is embarassing isn't it?? have they got any good players do you know purple hills or are they all just a bunch of youngsters or whata??
Wayde Petersen said:Wunghnu, it is fair to say have really struggled over the last decade (especially for the last three years), being competitive in the Picola League, recieving belting after belting.
Could this be the straw that breaks the camel's back, Wunghnu coach, Kim McInnenny has walked out on the club for a third time (he first left in 2001, then 2003 then now) leaving the already struggling Magpies without a coach.
First off, why did they employ a bloke that has a history of doing runners when it gets a bit tough ?, and secondly, what happened to those gun recruits that he was supposed to have bought ?.
Perry Meka was there last season (that mercenary's been a lightning rod for trouble, for years, and most clubs wouldn't go near him with a 40 foot barge pole), and he did his usual thing (make a big mess for the incoming coach & committee to clean up), even with their backers (who have been paying big money for lousy players), it's gone pear shaped.
Wunghnu had to abandon thier Under 17's side this year due to lack of numbers, and they are down to 2 Netball sides (most PFL clubs have at least 4).
And i've heard that there's been an exodus of players that have left the club, and things sadly are looking very bad for them right now.
David Dixon and the committee have done a wonderful job in keeping the club afolat when most clubs would have folded by now, but could this be the end ?.
I hope not, because the clubs nearly 120 years old (they formed in 1885), and even if they do manage to survive this crisis, will it be worth it ?, would it be better to merge than fade away (like Invergordon) ?, is there anything they can do make things better ?.
he sounds like a bit of a winner...madtiger said:Also Didn't that Jasmin Baryczka play for Wunghu speaking of mercaneries he has moved onto Mathoura now and has a very murky past admidst theft from footy clubs and was sacked from at least 2 clubs for stealing and one for supplying drugs to juniors.
jmain14 said:he sounds like a bit of a winner...
Jaz played in a flag side at Nagambie in 98 (I think) as a paid mercenary, was at Dookie as coach prior to the 2002 season and walked out/was sacked. He then went hunting around for a home for him and 2-3 mates tom play and approached Yea (amongst 8-10 other clubs) wanting big money for all of them, tried to get back to Nagas in 2003 and in 2004 went to Wunghnu with Perry and others solely for the cash injection and bled them dry it would seem for little return. I am unaware of his off field light fingering activities but you would think that clubs in the area would be a bit put off to 'employ' someone like that. You (clubs) get what you deserve in the end of the day if you don't get the right people I s'pose.madtiger said:Also Didn't that Jasmin Baryczka play for Wunghu speaking of mercaneries he has moved onto Mathoura now and has a very murky past admidst theft from footy clubs and was sacked from at least 2 clubs for stealing and one for supplying drugs to juniors.
Rosco5 said:Jaz played in a flag side at Nagambie in 98 (I think) as a paid mercenary, was at Dookie as coach prior to the 2002 season and walked out/was sacked. He then went hunting around for a home for him and 2-3 mates tom play and approached Yea (amongst 8-10 other clubs) wanting big money for all of them, tried to get back to Nagas in 2003 and in 2004 went to Wunghnu with Perry and others solely for the cash injection and bled them dry it would seem for little return. I am unaware of his off field light fingering activities but you would think that clubs in the area would be a bit put off to 'employ' someone like that. You (clubs) get what you deserve in the end of the day if you don't get the right people I s'pose.
I think it is a great pity if any side folds and they should undoubtedly see out the year and then consider a merger, if only to keep the name alive and half the home games. A few sides in the Wimmera-Mallee have done it over the years, Brim being the latest to merge with Warracknabeal in 2001. But they have since lost their entire identity because they were a smaller town from a minor league merging with a Wimmera FL side.
The key is for each individual club to retain some sort of ownership of the merged side either thru the jumper and logo and hyphenated name and still sharing games. I know it worked for Harrow-Balmoral and for other sides but it takes a great deal of courage to do.
I for one wish them the best.
madtiger said:I agree Rosco it is important for clubs to recruit not only good players but good quality blokes that are there for the right reasons. It will be hard for them to rebuild a club if they can't field a junior under 17 team as that in my opinion is the key to build any solid platform on. I fell these clubs get so desperate for players and success that they get sucked into the trap of 'buying' players and it mostly backfires on them. Jaz was sacked from St Micheals footy club in Horsham for theft also from Sale footy club and was not thought of to highly at Tallygaroopna where he was allegedley involved in drug peddling. he would be getting on in years now I can't imagine he would be worth much money he would have to be getting close to 40
Rosco5 said:The key is for each individual club to retain some sort of ownership of the merged side either thru the jumper and logo and hyphenated name and still sharing games. I know it worked for Harrow-Balmoral and for other sides but it takes a great deal of courage to do.
I for one wish them the best.
Drumanure-Wunghnu Football Club / Drumghnu Football Club (Vic)
Guernseys & Nicknames :
1924 - Drumghnu wore black and white colours.
Timeline :
1924 (Goulburn Valley FA) :
Commencing this season, Drumanure joined forces with Wunghnu, forming the Drumanure-Wunghnu FC, elsewhere named as Drumghnu.
Drumghnu participated in the Goulburn Valley FA.
1925 - Goulburn Valley FA : Drumghnu participated.
1926 - Goulburn Valley FA Semi-Final : Numurkah defeated Drumanure-Wunghnu.
1927 (Goulburn Valley FA) :
Drumanure were equal 4th after H&As.
4th-place play-off - Drumanure-Wunghnu defeated Cobram.
First Semi-Final - Drumanure-Wunghnu were defeated.
1928 - Wunghnu returned to the fray, participating in the Goulburn Valley FA. Drumanure returned to stand-alone status in the Katamatite FA.
Firstly I didn't realise that Jaz was in Horsham and played for the Mick's. I should make contact with a few of the boys there for the real dirt.Mobbenfuhrer said:Yep, very important this bit, good post Rosco. The Harrow-Balmoral is probably not the best example as the merger that brought about that club was between Douglas-Harrow-Miga Lake and Balmoral so as you can see two clubs were obliterated in the merger. Other instances where a party lost its identity included Berri-Culgoa into Sea Lake-Nandaly (the nickname changed, so that is something), Moonambel-Redbank (Redbank soon disappeared, though later on, so did Moonambel!), Colac-Coragulac (now Colac), Cohuna-Union became Cohuna Kangas. Maddingley-Bacchus Marsh became just Bacchus Marsh, even though Maddingley was the primary club at time of merger.
The papers that report have some culpability, referring to Tooleybuc-Manangatang solely as Tooleybuc, Wodonga Saints (which were Bethanga) solely as Wodonga.
Other problems is the trend towards generic titling. St Michaels and Horsham Imperials-Wonwondah in the Wimmera FL are now Horsham Saints and Horsham Diggers, alongside the original Horsham, now usually known as Horsham Demons. Irewillipe and Pirron Yallock when merging called themselves the Western Eagles (other examples in metro Melb include Southern Cobras and Western Magpies). This is a great compromise; obliterate both original entities equally!
I s'pose I come from a small-town mentality where all I see is the loss of identity of each town, whereas I must admit, in some cases the combined team has actually kicked on as a result of lopsided compromises.
But, in the climate, what else can really be done. Some good efforts about, mainly by acronyming (is that a word?!) the clubs : ROC, DWWWW and TGP (RIP) I think are good moves.
And, for the record, if Wunghnu merge, it won't be the first time. Here's a novel way to preserve both contributing entities' names :
Quoted from footypedia - F-Ref 2888
Code:Drumanure-Wunghnu Football Club / Drumghnu Football Club (Vic) Guernseys & Nicknames : 1924 - Drumghnu wore black and white colours. Timeline : 1924 (Goulburn Valley FA) : Commencing this season, Drumanure joined forces with Wunghnu, forming the Drumanure-Wunghnu FC, elsewhere named as Drumghnu. Drumghnu participated in the Goulburn Valley FA. 1925 - Goulburn Valley FA : Drumghnu participated. 1926 - Goulburn Valley FA Semi-Final : Numurkah defeated Drumanure-Wunghnu. 1927 (Goulburn Valley FA) : Drumanure were equal 4th after H&As. 4th-place play-off - Drumanure-Wunghnu defeated Cobram. First Semi-Final - Drumanure-Wunghnu were defeated. 1928 - Wunghnu returned to the fray, participating in the Goulburn Valley FA. Drumanure returned to stand-alone status in the Katamatite FA.
Rosco5 said:Firstly I didn't realise that Jaz was in Horsham and played for the Mick's. I should make contact with a few of the boys there for the real dirt.
Secondly, Wayde, I agree wholeheartedly that Nagas bought the flags, it's just that some at the club fail to see that and are living in the past. One person cannot change the mentality of a football club, that I have learnt the hard way.
Anyway Mobben, I personally think the Harrow-Balmoral merger was a complete success even though you did have to drop a couple of names, most of the people from the DHML days still follow the club. You really couldnt have Douglas-Harrow-Balmoral-Miga Lake, it'd be too much like Devon-Welshpool-Won Wron Woodside.
I was more talking about the main towns in that merger and the success of the club from the 1997 season, they have finished 3-3-1-3-3-1-2-1 although I can't see back to back this year as they are struggling, not financially but a few players have left the club and they didn't even appoint a coach until late January.
I think you'll find St.Michaels used to play in the Horsham DFL and it was Imperials and Wonwondah that merged to form Horsham United (now Diggers), the Mick's simply got bigger and better and moved to the Wimmera League.
As for the defunct clubs it is amazing when you go to a GF, especially a District League GF and find out the names of the previous premiers. Wail is a two silo 'spot' north - west of Horsham which even won a flag in the HDFL in the 40's. Where are they all now, where do they disappear to. It is unfortunate that any club has to fold but that is just the changing demographics of country Victoria (Australia).
Rosco5 said:Firstly I didn't realise that Jaz was in Horsham and played for the Mick's. I should make contact with a few of the boys there for the real dirt.
Secondly, Wayde, I agree wholeheartedly that Nagas bought the flags, it's just that some at the club fail to see that and are living in the past. One person cannot change the mentality of a football club, that I have learnt the hard way.
Anyway Mobben, I personally think the Harrow-Balmoral merger was a complete success even though you did have to drop a couple of names, most of the people from the DHML days still follow the club. You really couldnt have Douglas-Harrow-Balmoral-Miga Lake, it'd be too much like Devon-Welshpool-Won Wron Woodside.
I was more talking about the main towns in that merger and the success of the club from the 1997 season, they have finished 3-3-1-3-3-1-2-1 although I can't see back to back this year as they are struggling, not financially but a few players have left the club and they didn't even appoint a coach until late January.
I think you'll find St.Michaels used to play in the Horsham DFL and it was Imperials and Wonwondah that merged to form Horsham United (now Diggers), the Mick's simply got bigger and better and moved to the Wimmera League.
As for the defunct clubs it is amazing when you go to a GF, especially a District League GF and find out the names of the previous premiers. Wail is a two silo 'spot' north - west of Horsham which even won a flag in the HDFL in the 40's. Where are they all now, where do they disappear to. It is unfortunate that any club has to fold but that is just the changing demographics of country Victoria (Australia).
Rosco5 said:It sounds like you either lived in the Wimmera or got out the "Country leagues in Decline handbook - 1900-2000" ?? Good to have a laugh about it anyway.
Mobb, the book was a bit of a joke but it would be good to compile one with all the merged clubs or ones that are no longer. It is sad to see (or more to the point not see) all the old memorabilia that is lost, old jumpers, photos, cups, footies etc etc from disbanded clubs. I have seen clubs that are still in existence not know where certain trophies or other memorabilia are, it is a real shame, borderline blasphemy. Yes, North Horsham were Homers, still got a cricket side in the comp up there. Do remember when Marnoo folded, end of 98 or 99 was it ?, real shame for the town too. Dunolly don't appear to be too far off either. The Wonwondah side used to wear Richmond guernseys from memory, can't recall the Imps jumpers or could be the other way around so at least they kept something with the Diggers (nee United jumpers). Should get together on that book Mobb, would sell well me thinks.Mobbenfuhrer said:The former, I grew up in Marnoo, though didn't play footy there (as a footballer I made a good drunken Doc Wheildon fan).
If there is such a book as 'Country Leagues In Decline' I'd like to get a hold of one, I haven't heard of it but do tend to grab whatever I can afford, as it'd help with the 'pedia (see signature below post). My nephew plays for Great Western so I take an interest in the HDFL. I have 'Wheatbelt Warriors' (compilation of the newspaper expose) which is a good browse.
Sounds like you know your footy. I never get up that way anymore or I'd drop in to see that Imps and Wonwondah memorabilia; I don't have their guernseys nor nicknames for the site (how's your memory?).
I didn't realise Taylors Lake more or less got the Horsham North players, which I believe was Homers renamed.
But anyway, my personalised interest out that way is actually South Wimmera FL which existed to 1969 and touted such clubs as the Noo, Glenorchy, Swifts, Halls Gap, Warriors (now merged into Stawell's WFL team) and the reserve clubs of Rup, Minyip and Murtoa. Dad won a flag as skipper in the 1950s.
Rosco5 said:Mobb, the book was a bit of a joke but it would be good to compile one with all the merged clubs or ones that are no longer. It is sad to see (or more to the point not see) all the old memorabilia that is lost, old jumpers, photos, cups, footies etc etc from disbanded clubs. I have seen clubs that are still in existence not know where certain trophies or other memorabilia are, it is a real shame, borderline blasphemy. Yes, North Horsham were Homers, still got a cricket side in the comp up there. Do remember when Marnoo folded, end of 98 or 99 was it ?, real shame for the town too. Dunolly don't appear to be too far off either. The Wonwondah side used to wear Richmond guernseys from memory, can't recall the Imps jumpers or could be the other way around so at least they kept something with the Diggers (nee United jumpers). Should get together on that book Mobb, would sell well me thinks.