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Looking a bit average so far, but I haven't really kept too much track of next year's cohort rankings wise. Curtin is shaping up as the best early on, but I think Archer Reid will be a riser over the next 18 months as he starts to gain some sizeHi PMBangers ive possibly asked this question already, but forgotten in my old age.
What does next years KPP crop look like, from what you’ve seen early season, so far?
Any standouts from Sandy, the Rebels or WA at all?
The problem with that is how you regulate it. If you allow clubs to gain some edge by granting priority access to the kids in their academy, and you open up the field to allow any kid to be brought into an academy, then you'll have an arms race where every club will be looking to sign up the best talent in the country at as young an age as they're allowed for their academy and there will no longer be an open draft. This is basically the kind of system you have with european soccer.PMBangers ... probably not specific to 2022 but what is your opinion on the NGA system..along with the Northern academies. Are they working ? Are they sustainable? Are the Northern academies rights similar to the NGA ..as in not having the ability to match in the top40?
Do you have any idea on numbers at a lower levels in NSW... are there more kids playing the game since the introduction of GWS?
Relative to 2022... who do you see as the likely types this year and what range do you see them going?
Personally I like the idea of trying to develop talent thru academies... id not tie it to only indig players or Northern academies is it is. Anything that develops players , creates more players of a better talent is better for all in the end. One can then debate about dividing up the talent if one side is gaining too much from it. We are not that far away from a 19th and a 20th club... we will need all the talent that the afl clubs can find.
The problem with that is how you regulate it. If you allow clubs to gain some edge by granting priority access to the kids in their academy, and you open up the field to allow any kid to be brought into an academy, then you'll have an arms race where every club will be looking to sign up the best talent in the country at as young an age as they're allowed for their academy and there will no longer be an open draft. This is basically the kind of system you have with european soccer.
I'm a fan tbh, most clubs now are more involved with their local regions because of it. I think there was a better way to deal with bid matching restrictions rather than remove access completely within the top end, maybe make it first round bids have to have at least 1 first rounder used to match or something like thatPMBangers ... probably not specific to 2022 but what is your opinion on the NGA system..along with the Northern academies. Are they working ? Are they sustainable? Are the Northern academies rights similar to the NGA ..as in not having the ability to match in the top40?
Do you have any idea on numbers at a lower levels in NSW... are there more kids playing the game since the introduction of GWS?
Relative to 2022... who do you see as the likely types this year and what range do you see them going?
Personally I like the idea of trying to develop talent thru academies... id not tie it to only indig players or Northern academies is it is. Anything that develops players , creates more players of a better talent is better for all in the end. One can then debate about dividing up the talent if one side is gaining too much from it. We are not that far away from a 19th and a 20th club... we will need all the talent that the afl clubs can find.
The academy system should be scrapped all together. Especial the swans academy. They have such an advantage over every single club in the comp it’s just crap. Keep the father son system but scrap everything elseThe problem with that is how you regulate it. If you allow clubs to gain some edge by granting priority access to the kids in their academy, and you open up the field to allow any kid to be brought into an academy, then you'll have an arms race where every club will be looking to sign up the best talent in the country at as young an age as they're allowed for their academy and there will no longer be an open draft. This is basically the kind of system you have with european soccer.
Depends on what you imagine an academy looks and operates like.First ... I think there is no doubt that the draft atm..is not 100% open anyway, as you describe it. When some kids thru birth right or birth location get treated different to others. Ess like other clubs have an academy for Father Sons. Why put the brakes on it..if clubs can bring inside more talent.
Second.. Id rather have the problem of talent distribution than not enough talent. If ther4 had to be rules or reg brought in if one club or a group was making it unfair or had too much of an advantged then that could be done.
Why keep father-son? It also impacts on the equity of the system.The academy system should be scrapped all together. Especial the swans academy. They have such an advantage over every single club in the comp it’s just crap. Keep the father son system but scrap everything else
Imbalances undermine the integrity of the competition. The AFL have already accepted that and clubs are no longer able to get a top tier player for a third rounder. They have an obligation to eliminate inequality.First ... I think there is no doubt that the draft atm..is not 100% open anyway, as you describe it. When some kids thru birth right or birth location get treated different to others. Ess like other clubs have an academy for Father Sons. Why put the brakes on it..if clubs can bring inside more talent.
Second.. Id rather have the problem of talent distribution than not enough talent. If ther4 had to be rules or reg brought in if one club or a group was making it unfair or had too much of an advantged then that could be done.
I like the romanticism of itWhy keep father-son? It also impacts on the equity of the system.
Imbalances undermine the integrity of the competition. The AFL have already accepted that and clubs are no longer able to get a top tier player for a third rounder. They have an obligation to eliminate inequality.
Hey mate thanks for the thread.I'll do last years draft class given it's fresher in the memory and I watched a lot more than any other year. I ended last year with Daicos, Horne-Francis and Callaghan in 1, 2 and 3 overall for reference, mix in the boys from this year it's;
1. Wardlaw
2. Daicos
3. Jason Horne-Francis
4. Ashcroft
5. Callaghan
6. Tsatas
but it's not worlds apart between any of them, 6 players that all played a similar position but go about it very differently
Hey mate thanks for the thread.
WCE are dying for a gun onballer, hoping they get a top 5 pick. Will they be able to land one at this range?
Cheers i'll have a look. I can see there are some mids on this list, however are these players touted for picks in the late first rounder, or some of these mids expected to go top 5? I dont want us to draft a guy who is really a pick worth in the 10-20's just for the sake as we need young mids.2022 AFL Academy list: Player-by-Player Here's a write-up of some of the major players this year.
Tsatas, Wardlaw, and Hewett are all around that mark. Wardlaw a strong pick 1 contender.Cheers i'll have a look. I can see there are some mids on this list, however are these players touted for picks in the late first rounder, or some of these mids expected to go top 5? I dont want us to draft a guy who is really a pick worth in the 10-20's just for the sake as we need young mids.
Given you'll have pick 1 or 2, have a look at Wardlaw and Tsatas. You'll likely get one of these two.Cheers i'll have a look. I can see there are some mids on this list, however are these players touted for picks in the late first rounder, or some of these mids expected to go top 5? I dont want us to draft a guy who is really a pick worth in the 10-20's just for the sake as we need young mids.
Plenty of options. George Wardlaw is my clear number 1 prospect currently and is just a complete midfielder, essentially no faults to his game. Elijah Tsatas and Elijah Hewett are two others that'll likely he in that range, Hewett being a WA boy may appeal the mostHey mate thanks for the thread.
WCE are dying for a gun onballer, hoping they get a top 5 pick. Will they be able to land one at this range?
Not sure we'll get pick 1/2,expect us to win games at the end of year unfortunately, when we get players back.Given you'll have pick 1 or 2, have a look at Wardlaw and Tsatas. You'll likely get one of these two.
So if we get pick < 6 we should be able to nab one of those guys?Tsatas, Wardlaw, and Hewett are all around that mark. Wardlaw a strong pick 1 contender.
I was reading he lives in Melbourne and doesn't want to leave?Early on but I'd be surprised of he didn't
Fair point, you may well see some improvement, gonna be a hard slog till then though.Not sure we'll get pick 1/2,expect us to win games at the end of year unfortunately, when we get players back.
What about the lions father son player, do you think he'll nominate the lions?