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Can GWS avoid having a big backward year before they get to a GF or win a flag?? History shows that all the expansion teams have had a significant backward year after 2,3, or 4 seasons in the league. GWS haven't had that big backward year yet. There is a thread on the main board called - Who will be the last team beaten by GC and GWS https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/thre...am-to-be-beaten-by-gc-and-gws.1004176/page-23

I put this graphic up in late May 2016. Since then GWS have beaten Richmond and North to only not have beaten West Coast and Collingwood having lost all 5 games to both teams. The GC aren't doing as well, having lost 7 and drawn 1 game to West Coast, lost all 7 games to the swans, all 8 to the hawks and all 9 to the crows. can't be arsed finishing it off.


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Looks at the first 8 years of the expansion teams. It took that long for Brisbane to finally not lose to every team, they beat Essendon and Collingwood, that year, but had drawn with the Eagles a couple of years earlier. They didn't beat the Eagles until 1996 in their 15th attempt.
 
Can GWS avoid having a big backward year before they get to a GF or win a flag?? History shows that all the expansion teams have had a significant backward year after 2,3, or 4 seasons in the league. GWS haven't had that big backward year yet. There is a thread on the main board called - Who will be the last team beaten by GC and GWS https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/thre...am-to-be-beaten-by-gc-and-gws.1004176/page-23

I put this graphic up in late May 2016. Since then GWS have beaten Richmond and North to only not have beaten West Coast and Collingwood having lost all 5 games to both teams. The GC aren't doing as well, having lost 7 and drawn 1 game to West Coast, lost all 7 games to the swans, all 8 to the hawks and all 9 to the crows. can't be arsed finishing it off.


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Looks at the first 8 years of the expansion teams. It took that long for Brisbane to finally not lose to every team, they beat Essendon and Collingwood, that year, but had drawn with the Eagles a couple of years earlier. They didn't beat the Eagles until 1996 in their 15th attempt.
I was thinking the same.

Everyone is tipping GWS for the flag. I wouldn't be surprised if they get ahead of themselves and have a crap year before they properly rise.

History supports this idea.

It is hard to see a team of that quality totally flopping and missing finals though

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That's silly Tribey. Just shepherd your man! Happens dozens of times EACH match, without chucking your shoulder into the oppo player. Yes if he was more aware, he could have avoided it, but the onus is on the tackler, not the one being tackled. Complain all we want, but that is the state of play.

Hartlett has regular brainfades, ie, the stomach hot on Roughy on the weekend. He does get a bit of white-line fever, which he needs to control.

In the spirit of the game he did nothing wrong.

Conflating a perfect protective shepherd for a teammate with his laundry list of misdemeanours is rank.
 
I was thinking the same.

Everyone is tipping GWS for the flag. I wouldn't be surprised if they get ahead of themselves and have a crap year before they properly rise.

History supports this idea.

It is hard to see a team of that quality totally flopping and missing finals though

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Yeah they could have a relatively crap year and go from 16 wins to 12 and still make the finals. As good as their depth is, 5 or 6 major injuries to key players will effect their season.
 

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I seriously can't believe that so-many experts have us in the bottom 4. I know we are struggling, but are we as bad as Collingwood, Nth Melb, Brisbane and Carlton? What are they smoking
 
Would much rather us be predicted as bottom 4 finishers, than top 4 finishers.

Further to that, given our fragility & difficult fixture, the bottom 4 calls arent all that ridiculous.
 
Would much rather us be predicted as bottom 4 finishers, than top 4 finishers.

Further to that, given our fragility & difficult fixture, the bottom 4 calls arent all that ridiculous.

Is it?

We play Adelaide, West Coast, Collingwood, Gold Coast and Brisbane twice. I'm pretty happy with it to be honest.
 

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Is it?

We play Adelaide, West Coast, Collingwood, Gold Coast and Brisbane twice. I'm pretty happy with it to be honest.
Sorry - I meant the early fixture..if we are 0-4 or 1-3, we are quite unlikely to have the mental strength to get back into finals contention.
 
Sorry - I meant the early fixture..if we are 0-4 or 1-3, we are quite unlikely to have the mental strength to get back into finals contention.

Yeah it's a tough start, but I think we will beat Freo and certainly match it with Adelaide. I don't think 2-2 is out of the question.
 
Yeah it's a tough start, but I think we will beat Freo and certainly match it with Adelaide. I don't think 2-2 is out of the question.
2-2 is not an impossibility, but I think its realistically our best- case-scenario.
 
2-2 is not an impossibility, but I think its realistically our best- case-scenario.
2-2 would be a good result but 4-0 is certainly within the realms of possibility if we've sorted out some technical issues and hit the ground running.

We're not in the middle of a rebuild, we have the talent to beat these sides and losses are unacceptable at this point of our list cycle to anyone anywhere.

I expect we'll be 1-3 though in fairness.
 

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