News Potential training centre at St Mary's Oval

[speedybundy]

http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au...-st-marys-ground/story-fnjuhovy-1227028983983
Shame there's not room to expand Geelong Cricket Ground, would be ideal for both partys

 

[JUBJUB]

http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au...-st-marys-ground/story-fnjuhovy-1227028983983
Shame there's not room to expand Geelong Cricket Ground, would be ideal for both partys

An indoor training building the size of four basketball courts is also part of plans which have been floated with all park user groups and City Hall.

I remember years ago there was talk of building an actual basketball stadium at KP.I think it was to be around the carpark area where the Premiership Cup window is.I think it was going to replace The Arena as the main basketball venue.

 

[speedybundy]

I remember years ago there was talk of building an actual basketball stadium at KP.I think it was to be around the carpark area where the Premiership Cup window is.I think it was going to replace The Arena as the main basketball venue.

Backed onto the Brownlow Stand wasn't it? Regardless probably good in hindsight it didn't happen, imagine how crammed for space we'd be!

I suspect any facility like this will be built at the Kilgour/La Trobe Tce corner. They'd have to take down bigger tree's to fit it at the other end

 

[FredLeDeux]

Backed onto the Brownlow Stand wasn't it? Regardless probably good in hindsight it didn't happen, imagine how crammed for space we'd be!

I suspect any facility like this will be built at the Kilgour/La Trobe Tce corner. They'd have to take down bigger tree's to fit it at the other end

Let's see, that's $25billion for the KP expansion, a bagatelle of $15million for this.
The club simply has to think bigger.
Why just an MCG-size track?
Why not buy the MCG and shift it down there?

 

[Turbocat]

Its funny how these thing go round and round. There was post on on thread that talked about how at one stage a redevelopment of the ovals to have a MCG size ground in the middle of KP in 1940's...( or something like that )

The issue here is Geelong will wat to say it includes all the group to help get money as a community concept but when it comes to the crunch they will not want others there when they want it.

Edit: ......
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/where-was-corio-oval-located.335755/page-3#post-29993055

You would have if you had a copy of Classic Cats

"During a later visit in May 1946, McBrien said that League football should continue at Kardinia Park, and that a new oval and appointments should be constructed on the site of the Western Oval at the Park. He said that in planning for a ground in that location, an area of 10 acres should be reserved for the purpose, which was similar in size to the Melbourne Cricket Ground."

The two ovals at the time in Kardinia Park were called (and probably officially still are) the Western and Eastern Oval. The Western Oval was approximately were St Mary's FC is currently based (there was also a rubgy pitch up towards Kilgour street). There was also an idea around at the time that all ovals where possible should confirm to the the dimensions of the MCG. The infrastructure at the Eastern Oval in 1946 was rudimentary with one grandstand and limited terracing with the proximity to Moorabool Street limiting expansion. The grandstand being made of wood could have relatively easily been moved to a more centrally located oval in Kardinia Park. (When the East Melbourne Cricket Ground was demolished in the early 1920's to make way for railway yards, the main grandstand was transported to Glenferrie Oval in Hawthorn.)

Only 6 years later there were plans for a 150,000 capacity stadium at Princes Park to host the Olympic Games which would thereafter become VFL headquarters.

 

[Boxhead_31]

Has there been any progression on any sort of training facility for the club separate to Simonds?
As going forward this is going to be one of the things that Free Agents look at when making a decision as to which club to join, was apparently a factor in the Frawley decision to pick the Hawks over us

 

[FredLeDeux]

Has there been any progression on any sort of training facility for the club separate to Simonds?
As going forward this is going to be one of the things that Free Agents look at when making a decision as to which club to join, was apparently a factor in the Frawley decision to pick the Hawks over us

So, at $15m, that would be, what $3m for each FA over the next 5 years. Plus wages, of course.

 

[vinum coupe]

Well the Hawks finally got their land for 8 mil.
Now they're looking for another 50mil to build it.

 

[Boxhead_31]

So, at $15m, that would be, what $3m for each FA over the next 5 years. Plus wages, of course.

Don't think that facilities are going to be part of a potential FA's decision making process? Or that we aren't going to attract any FA's?

 

[Boxhead_31]

Well the Hawks finally got their land for 8 mil.
Now they're looking for another 50mil to build it.

It is the downside of being a regional side, where we have spent $20mil+ on ground developments to help with revenue Melbourne based clubs can spend that money on those type of facilities

 

[FredLeDeux]

Don't think that facilities are going to be part of a potential FA's decision making process? Or that we aren't going to attract any FA's?

It may be a good idea, but attracting FAs would be about 497th on the list of good reasons for building it.

 

[thejester]

Don't think that facilities are going to be part of a potential FA's decision making process? Or that we aren't going to attract any FA's?

Surely if you're looking at forking $15m your primary interest is in how it will improve the team overall rather than its potential to lure free agents.

 

[catempire]

It may be a good idea, but attracting FAs would be about 497th on the list of good reasons for building it.

List the other 496 for input into the business case. Send to bcook@geelongcats.com.au

 

[Boxhead_31]

Surely if you're looking at forking $15m your primary interest is in how it will improve the team overall rather than its potential to lure free agents.

No doubt the benefit for the players has to be first an foremost but also the FA angle has to be thought of, clubs have to make themselves as attractive to FA's as they can and training facilities are going to be part of that not saying they are going to be the be all and end all of the decision but to give ourselves a chance to lure the best FA's we need to at least have a fighting chance of doing so

 

[JUBJUB]

Well the Hawks finally got their land for 8 mil.
Now they're looking for another 50mil to build it.

The Dinger Hawks

 

[thejester]

No doubt the benefit for the players has to be first an foremost but also the FA angle has to be thought of, clubs have to make themselves as attractive to FA's as they can and training facilities are going to be part of that not saying they are going to be the be all and end all of the decision but to give ourselves a chance to lure the best FA's we need to at least have a fighting chance of doing so

Maybe, and clearly improving our facilities couldn't hurt our efforts to attract FAs. But I suspect the 'their facilities are top class stuff' is, like 'homesickness', a line that gets trotted out to disguise 'they're better and are going to pay me more.' Like, do we really think Frawley picked the Hawks because they have better facilities rather than the fact they'd just won two premierships and we'd gone out in straight sets?

 

[vinum coupe]

Surely if you're looking at forking $15m your primary interest is in how it will improve the team overall rather than its potential to lure free agents.

I think that if I was hunting for $$$ contributions from benefactors, I'd be trotting out the FA line too.

I.e please give us 200k for more weights vs 200k for weights will get us Dangerfield.

 

[ATSAM]

But there is Armstrong Creek isn't there??????

 

[Art Vandelay_]

But there is Armstrong Creek isn't there??????

http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au...nd-training-base/story-fnjuhrxq-1227169454096

GEELONG will have to fork out up to $20 million for its second training base after its proposed Armstrong Creek venue was finally declared “dead in the water”.

The Cats were meant to inherit an $11.5 million training facility free of charge as part of a deal with Keystone Business Park, in which the club would have been an anchor tenant in the $1 billion precinct off Barwon Heads Rd.

In late 2011, the Cats announced a contra deal with Keystone Business Park by which the club would be given an exclusive training centre at Armstrong Creek, funded entirely by Keystone. In exchange, the Cats provided sponsorship privileges to Keystone.

The facility was due for completion by the end of last year, but it never got off the ground and the Cats were forced to write off $1.93 million from their balance sheet last year as a result.

Cook confirmed the project had been “pretty much” abandoned — the strongest admission by the club yet after a lack of investment at the site.

 

[you pick one]

Well the Hawks finally got their land for 8 mil.
Now they're looking for another 50mil to build it.

That's overs for Tassie.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

That's overs for Tassie.

Did they buy Tassie

 

[Turbocat]

Not sure how much it would take to buy a chunk of land down somewhere convenient. Maybe they should just get approval to get a couple of Ovals back in East Geelong Parkland... Back to the Future or buy a failed winery down the Peninsula.

I cant see StMarys just pulling up stumps without a fight... so not many realistic solutions.

 

[CharacterFirst]

There isn't really enough space for everything at KP, is there?

The thing we have in our favour is so much rural space around Geelong - within easy travelling time.

Wouldn't we be better off grabbing 50 acres somewhere on the outskirts and doing what the Hawks are doing in Dingley?

 

[you pick one]

Maybe, and clearly improving our facilities couldn't hurt our efforts to attract FAs. But I suspect the 'their facilities are top class stuff' is, like 'homesickness', a line that gets trotted out to disguise 'they're better and are going to pay me more.' Like, do we really think Frawley picked the Hawks because they have better facilities rather than the fact they'd just won two premierships and we'd gone out in straight sets?

Any advantage in the new facilities being closer to Melbourne,I've often thought that trek down the highway to training and back would lose its gloss in a hurry. Geelong's a nice little place but it's not for everyone.

 

[you pick one]

There isn't really enough space for everything at KP, is there?

The thing we have in our favour is so much rural space around Geelong - within easy travelling time.

Wouldn't we be better off grabbing 50 acres somewhere on the outskirts and doing what the Hawks are doing in Dingley?

Very few father/sons come from the Hawks,I wouldn't want any part of what the Hawks might do in Dingle,not that there's wrong with that mind you.