'Questions that don't warrant a thread' Thread - Part 2

[Bumpswithagrin]

Start Fox was saying its because it gets bashed around and scratched as it travels around the country so they wait until just before it goes into the trophy cabinet before getting rid of all the dings, buffing her up and engraving it. Supposedly there is a couple of good dents in it.

I don't think they'll get rid of the scratches and dents, they are part of it now. I had the impression from Stuart Fox that it would be engraved and just given a polish to get rid of the finger prints etc. (suspect most of the damage was done in the first 24 hours after the GF anyway rather than on it's grand tour ).

 

[HAWKS HEROES]

Start Fox was saying its because it gets bashed around and scratched as it travels around the country so they wait until just before it goes into the trophy cabinet before getting rid of all the dings, buffing her up and engraving it. Supposedly there is a couple of good dents in it.

08 cup has a couple of flat spots on it near the rim on front and back not sure if this is normal or has been slightly put in a sandwich press so to speak or dropped twice

 

[cryptor]

Start Fox was saying its because it gets bashed around and scratched as it travels around the country so they wait until just before it goes into the trophy cabinet before getting rid of all the dings, buffing her up and engraving it. Supposedly there is a couple of good dents in it.

I can believe that just based on the people I was able to see get their photo taken with the cup last week down at Waverley! Would think people would be a little more careful with something that precious!

 

[Stratton_Gun]

Anyone have a pic or vid even of Hodgey leading the boyz out to the GF

 

[Lord Mud of Glenferrie]

I can believe that just based on the people I was able to see get their photo taken with the cup last week down at Waverley! Would think people would be a little more careful with something that precious!

In the year I won the Sheffield Shield – 1995 I almost got out the front door of the Bears social club with the shield tucked under my arm.

John Buchanan, Alan Border, Carl Rackemann and a few others brought the shield around to the social club and handed it to us plebs to have our photo taken with it. Everyone had quite a few drinks (like, it was the first time I had won the Sheffield Shield, the Holy Grail of Queensland sport).

I gave my camera to somebody to take my photo with the shield and was then left by myself. Looking around, I could see everybody preoccupied and I was still in possession of the Holy Grail. Security was too busy big noting themselves with the greatest cricket team of all time and I was very close to the exit door.

Now surely anyone with an ounce of initiative would seize the moment. I did and snuck through the exit and was just about home scot free when I remembered I left my camera with the dude who took the photo. I was faced with a choice of taking my Sheffield Shield to the home where it belonged or going back to get my camera. Whilst dithering about whether I should go back, a heavy hand fell on my shoulder. Not the hand of the law but an annoying thing called a conscience.

So I did the wrong thing and obeyed my conscience. Security was in a panic and when they saw me with the Shield they tried to take it from me. I decided I would only give it back to Stuart Law (whom I considered to be a blood brother because my son played with him in Townsville). The dude with my camera took another photo, this time of me in a tug of war with a twenty stone weakling from some Island in the Pacific Ocean. I succumbed to the weakling - only because I was drunk. In the melee the Shield dropped to the floor and anyone who now views the Shield will now know how it got the dent in it.

The above is a true story. Only the facts have been changed to protect the guilty. Hello Rupert.

I now confess only because it is a miracle that any trophy survives the immediate post victory celebration.

 

[scout]

Anyone have a pic or vid even of Hodgey leading the boyz out to the GF

GF first quarter, including some of the pre-match. Go to 5.00 mins for the team walking out. Luke Hodge looking all serious business.

 

[Hodginator]

GF first quarter, including some of the pre-match. Go to 5.00 mins for the team walking out. Luke Hodge looking all serious business.

Isaac Smith loving the moment at 6:33

 

[oneredfrog]

Having a bit of trouble recognising all the caricatures on the Paul Harvey Caricature Premiers T-Shirt. Love the T-Shirt. Have I got it right?

Back Row - Left to right
Hale, Bailey
Birch Stratton Gibson Franklin Roughy Lake
Bruest Guerra Shiels Burgoyne Smith Simpkin (thought he had dark hair) Lewis
Gunstan Hill Mitch Hodge Clarko Rioli Pup Sewell (haircut gave him away but looks more like young Langford)

Love Roughies pic and the look on Hodgies face

https://www.hawksnestonline.com.au/index.cfm?fuseaction=Product&CategoryID=2922&ProductID=38216

 

[eldorado]

When the Hawks get back from South Africa, will they go straight to their Christmas break, or will there more training early next week?

 

[Jaeger]

I'm pretty sure they're on break now.

 

[GOHORCS]

In the wake of the Matt McBriar fake punt and pass for the Steelers recently....Is there a play in AFL that we could utilise at certain times?

I have often wondered, in the situation where we have a drawn game or a close game and need a rushed behind or to waste some time, if we could form a ring around a player and shepherd players while moving toward goal. It is ok to shepherd opposition from your player with ball within a few metres but to attack a player even one who could shepherd who doesn't have the ball would be a free against. This could 1. waste time or allow a team to effectively walk through a point. The ring would allow space to bounce.
Probably Shem and McEvoy could do it by themselves but with Lake and Shoey would be impenetrable.


Another idea: Who needs a tall forward!! Get Roughy to hurl Hartung into the air like the gymnasts do or the cheerleaders.

 

[Lord Mud of Glenferrie]

In the wake of the Matt McBriar fake punt and pass for the Steelers recently....Is there a play in AFL that we could utilise at certain times?

I have often wondered, in the situation where we have a drawn game or a close game and need a rushed behind or to waste some time, if we could form a ring around a player and shepherd players while moving toward goal. It is ok to shepherd opposition from your player with ball within a few metres but to attack a player even one who could shepherd who doesn't have the ball would be a free against. This could 1. waste time or allow a team to effectively walk through a point. The ring would allow space to bounce.
Probably Shem and McEvoy could do it by themselves but with Lake and Shoey would be impenetrable.


Another idea: Who needs a tall forward!! Get Roughy to hurl Hartung into the air like the gymnasts do or the cheerleaders.

Walking through a point like that is a free kick to the opposition. As for the rest, I hope Roos and Lyon do not read this forum.

 

[GOHORCS]

Walking through a point like that is a free kick to the opposition. As for the rest, I hope Roos and Lyon do not read this forum.

Sure is a free kick if you walked but not if you handball or kick on the line which of course you would do.

 

[seahawker]

When the Hawks get back from South Africa, will they go straight to their Christmas break, or will there more training early next week?

Up at 5am on Christmas day for a dip in the Brighton baths...

 

[Agent Smith]

Is this true? The AFL store are showing the 2013 GF dvd with the 2012 Hawks caricature on the cover:

http://www.theaflstore.com.au/teams/hawthorn-hawks/hawthorn-grand-final-2013-premiers-dvd.html

It IS a better pic than the actual one for 2013, I have to admit... almost worth purchasing if true.

 

[Dewnior]

Is this true? The AFL store are showing the 2013 GF dvd with the 2012 Hawks caricature on the cover:

http://www.theaflstore.com.au/teams/hawthorn-hawks/hawthorn-grand-final-2013-premiers-dvd.html

It IS a better pic than the actual one for 2013, I have to admit... almost worth purchasing if true.

Could it be the AFL's new way of warning a club they are about to be investigated?

 

[Agent Smith]

Could it be the AFL's new way of warning a club they are about to be investigated?

Are you suggesting we already have b2b flags?

 

[Bumpswithagrin]

Is this true? The AFL store are showing the 2013 GF dvd with the 2012 Hawks caricature on the cover:

http://www.theaflstore.com.au/teams/hawthorn-hawks/hawthorn-grand-final-2013-premiers-dvd.html

It IS a better pic than the actual one for 2013, I have to admit... almost worth purchasing if true.

Well I have one and it doesn't have this picture on the cover

 

[Brant]

Who thinks/not-thinks that Mitchell is in career-best form?

I find it interesting to weigh up his 2013 at HB against his 2012 in the Middle, against his old 'Extractor' days of 2008-ish.

 

[Thaihawk]

One of Mitch's greatest assets is his consistency. Except for the odd occasion when he has been heavily tagged, there is little difference between his good, and not-so-good days.

 

[bris tarangau]

Does heavy tagging really work for a team? Critics look at possessions and suggest that it does, ala Mitchell in the GF. However, remember I. Smith in the QF did not have a lot of possessions but got a mention by L. Mathews that his UNREWARDED RUNNING was significant and contributed to burning out a few Swannies. Mitchell in the GF would have been running to a play where he would have had the attention of his tagger and another player, therefore freeing up a teammate. This is smart play and effectively negates the role of heavy tagging. The concept would be similar to 'total football' used by the Dutch soccer team years ago. Everyone plays a role with/without the ball and running to spaces and taking opponents away from the play are far more important than worrying about heavy tagging.

 

[cryptor]

Does heavy tagging really work for a team? Critics look at possessions and suggest that it does, ala Mitchell in the GF. However, remember I. Smith in the QF did not have a lot of possessions but got a mention by L. Mathews that his UNREWARDED RUNNING was significant and contributed to burning out a few Swannies. Mitchell in the GF would have been running to a play where he would have had the attention of his tagger and another player, therefore freeing up a teammate. This is smart play and effectively negates the role of heavy tagging. The concept would be similar to 'total football' used by the Dutch soccer team years ago. Everyone plays a role with/without the ball and running to spaces and taking opponents away from the play are far more important than worrying about heavy tagging.

The Rioli Principle. Impact with possessions > Number of possessions. Always.

Sometimes a tagger can keep someone to a much lower number of possesions but that player still has a lot of impact with what they do get. Likewise they may not keep them to a low possession count but the player doesn't do much with it due to the pressure.

So yes tagging works. But only if you're negatively affecting the players impact on the game rather than just their stats sheet and season averages.

 

[hawker92]

The Rioli Principle. Impact with possessions > Number of possessions. Always.

Sometimes a tagger can keep someone to a much lower number of possesions but that player still has a lot of impact with what they do get. Likewise they may not keep them to a low possession count but the player doesn't do much with it due to the pressure.

So yes tagging works. But only if you're negatively affecting the players impact on the game rather than just their stats sheet and season averages.

What happens if you tag the tagger? E.g. Shiels tags Crowley

 

[Brant]

What happens if you tag the tagger? E.g. Shiels tags Crowley

Crowley wins because he's taken 2 out of the game.

Better off sending Mitch to tag one of their players so that there is 1 Hawk vs 2 Purple-idiots

 

[Bumpswithagrin]

Depends a bit on who you are trying to tag I reckon. For example, is it really worth trying to tag Smith? Are there many opposition players who could keep up with him?