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B4Bear said:
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Trump's air strikes in Afghanistan dramatically increased civilian deaths: Report

The US's easing of restrictions on aerial strikes has led to an increase of attacks across the Middle East, Afghanistan and neighbouring countries
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Sorry to burst your bubble, he was far worse than Obama (who was terrible), he just removed the need to report it. It was unfettered warfare outside of the public view.
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Bubble?

I said wasn’t 100% sure about the numbers. Drone strike numbers are not exactly a hill I’m dying on. Drone strikes numbers are often obscured, or at least their civilian casualties are.
 
Dan said:
Within 6 months time......you'll have people saying that Trump wasn't that bad as president.
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6 months, you’ve got morons doing it now.
 
Kangaroos4eva said:
Bubble?

I said wasn’t 100% sure about the numbers. Drone strike numbers are not exactly a hill I’m dying on. Drone strikes numbers are often obscured, or at least their civilian casualties are.
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Sorry if that came across as condescending, it wasn’t meant to be. My point was the general public is fed a narrative that suits one side or another, this being one.
 
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Biden put the Bill through didn't he? AFAIK they needed 60% to pass it and it's other democrats that aren't supporting it, or the senate parliamentarian ruled it breached budget rules or something.

The first thing he did was raise the minimum wage of the only workforce he can control, the Fed gov workers.

Again, the dude is going to have an awful foreign policy and will likely backpedal on a lot, but he's had a fair crack at the minimum wage increase.
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It was an election promise to raise the federal minimum wage to $15, so everyone who ran under the Democrat ticket should be expected to keep election promises. If a party continues to fail to keep it's promises, it loses political credibility. You might as well offer everyone $100m if they vote for him if he has no intention following through with it.

As to creating legislation in America, Biden is trying to put the minimum wage increase into the Coronavirus Relief Package bill and they are using a special filibuster provision to try and shield it from a potential Republican filibuster, which means the republicans would need 60 votes to block it from passage, which they do not have. The issue is, the filibuster provision was created to prevent a minority from blocking budget legislation, so there are rules stating the items placed in such legislation must have a significant budgetary impact. The independent senate parliamentarian ruled that minimum wage increase can't be included in that particular bill, but the ruling is an advisory opinion/recommendation more than an iron-clad determination.

In 2017 Ted Cruz called on the vice president to ignore the advisory opinions of the parliamentarian and decide for himself what policies were kosher under reconciliation. Generally speaking, it would be left to a court to determine what can and can't be done. The Democrat Congressional Progressive Caucus chair seemed to think the minimum wage item was eligible and that the president should ignore the parliamentarian's advice/recommendation.

Biden said he would honour that advice he was given.

However, Biden didn't need to stick this in the Covid bill, it is not really something that specific to the pandemic, it is something that the vast majority of Americans wanted long before the pandemic and want to continue long after the pandemic. He can create a piece of legislation which has nothing on it but adjusting the minimum wage, one poll suggested it was 82% of registered voters who were for increasing the minimum wage, 55% to $15 and 27% to a lesser amount. This is similar to the popularity of universal health care, which 32 of 33 top industrialised countries in the world have, the only one that doesn't is the United States but it is also something very popular with people, but not so much corporations.

They should stick the minimum wage on a piece of legislation on it's own and have the senate debate on how much should it be, what will be the implications, what is the expert opinion, etc. It was the Democrat election promise, but where does everyone stand? Who wants to go back home and tell their 82% of people who voted that they blocked the minimum wage bill from passing.

This is the reason the Democrats resisted putting universal health care for vote on the floor, not because it wasn't popular with the public, but they didn't want to have to show who exactly was voting against it because that would put a target on the head of politicians that others can use against them for the next election.

It is only going to be immense public pressure that is going to force him and the Democrats to do something that goes against the interest of their corporate overlords.

For what it is worth, I don't think raising the minimum wage works, we have kept increasing it time and again and people who are on the minimum wage have worse spending power than generations when it was as low as $5. If you can't increase minimum wage without preventing prices rising to absorb that increase, then poor aren't in a better place, we just have altered the values and in the process devalued our currency and made it a lot harder for us to compete against foreign manufacturers. It has lead to the destruction of our manufacturing industry, our GDP from manufacturing has been in free fall, most of the things we make are in relation to consumption. Almost anything that has moving parts, has a circuit board, has gears, etc is made somewhere else.

I think there needs to be a redistribution of wealth, but I don't think it works going through the wage system. You have to be earning WAY more than the minimum wage to be in a good position.
 
B4Bear said:
Sorry if that came across as condescending, it wasn’t meant to be. My point was the general public is fed a narrative that suits one side or another, this being one.
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Let’s just say the use of drones and surgical air strikes raise more than a few ethical questions, regardless of any civilian oversight or military utility.
 
Tas said:
For what it is worth, I don't think raising the minimum wage works, we have kept increasing it time and again and people who are on the minimum wage have worse spending power than generations when it was as low as $5.
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I'll get to the rest later but Australia's minimum wage just last year retook the number 1 in the world for purchasing power relative to local consumer prices. We overtook Luxembourg and that was prior to the 3 per cent hike relative to 1.3 per cent inflation. I remember the big hoo hah because the same people who run the anti minimum wage argument you just ran (industry groups) used it to shove one up the unions who complained it wasn't growing fast enough.

Our historically impressive wage growth was built upon above minimum and above award bargaining through enterprise agreements and prior to that the respondency system. Enterprise agreement coverage has fallen and individuals are in a worse bargaining position than ever, which is the biggest contributor to wage growth. Minimum wage growth is fixed via the Fair Work Commission and has been well above inflation recently. The nature of our minimum wage fixation system (it's not like America where they just fix a number once every decade by legislation or whatever) takes into account anticipated inflation rates.

Plenty of countries with weaker minimum wages have experience the outsourcing of manufacturing, because whether you like it or not we are a tiny country with a small domestic market and we don't culturally expect to live like the developing world. If you rid us of a minimum wage tomorrow I doubt manufacturing would return like the anti minimum wage and anti bargaining advocates profess.

Most of the poverty in this country doesn't come from the full time minimum wage worker. It comes from precarious work, underemployment, and a below poverty line social security benefit. Technology and globalisation also reduced the proportion of middle income level jobs across the whole OECD, and there was no correlation with how low or high the minimum wage was in these countries to the degree of middle income.job losses.

Full-time minimum wage workers, although nowhere near the position I'd like them to be in, have some of the best living conditions and purchasing power in the world. The list of highest minimum wage by purchasing power in the world is virtually a carbon copy of a who's who list for living standards and raw minimum wages.

If you fixed housing costs in this country, which has little to do with minimum wages (it's not minimum wage workers causing 4-10% growth in housing prices per year), our minimum wage workers would be pretty well off. Even with our absurd housing prices our minimum wage when accounting for purchasing power is the best in the world, or thereabouts.

You're an intelligent person and I really hope you can change your stance on this issue. I appreciate the effort you went into for the entire post mate.
 
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Themanbun said:
I'll get to the rest later but Australia's minimum wage just last year retook the number 1 in the world for purchasing power relative to local consumer prices. We overtook Luxembourg and that was prior to the 3 per cent hike relative to 1.3 per cent inflation. I remember the big hoo hah because the same people who run the anti minimum wage argument you just ran (industry groups) used it to shove one up the unions who complained it wasn't growing fast enough.

Our historically impressive wage growth was built upon above minimum and above award bargaining through enterprise agreements and prior to that the respondency system. Enterprise agreement coverage has fallen and individuals are in a worse bargaining position than ever, which is the biggest contributor to wage growth. Minimum wage growth is fixed via the Fair Work Commission and has been well above inflation recently. The nature of our minimum wage fixation system (it's not like America where they just fix a number once every decade or whatever) takes into account anticipated inflation rates.

Plenty of countries with weaker minimum wages have experience the outsourcing of manufacturing, because whether you like it or not we are a tiny country with a small domestic market and we don't culturally expect to live like the developing world. If you rid us of a minimum wage tomorrow I doubt manufacturing would return like the anti minimum wage and anti bargaining advocates profess.

Most of the poverty in this country doesn't come from the full time minimum wage worker. It comes from precarious work, underemployment, and a below poverty line social security benefit. Technology and globalisation also reduced the proportion of middle income level jobs across the whole OECD, and there was no correlation with how low or high the minimum wage was in these countries to the degree of middle income.job losses.

Full-time minimum wage workers, although nowhere near the position I'd like them to be in, have some of the best living conditions and purchasing power in the world. The list of highest minimum wage by purchasing power in the world is virtually a carbon copy of a who's who list for living standards and raw minimum wages.

If you fixed housing costs in this country, which has little to do with minimum wages (it's not minimum wage workers causing 4-10% growth in housing prices per year), our minimum wage workers would be pretty well off. Even with our absurd housing prices our minimum wage when accounting for purchasing power is the best in the world, or thereabouts.

You're an intelligent person and I really hope you can change your stance on this issue.
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This is the content I live for in this thread. I do enjoy posts discussing economics. Usually full of good detail.
 
Themanbun said:
I'll get to the rest later but Australia's minimum wage just last year retook the number 1 in the world for purchasing power relative to local consumer prices. We overtook Luxembourg and that was prior to the 3 per cent hike relative to 1.3 per cent inflation. I remember the big hoo hah because the same people who run the anti minimum wage argument you just ran (industry groups) used it to shove one up the unions who complained it wasn't growing fast enough.

Our historically impressive wage growth was built upon above minimum and above award bargaining through enterprise agreements and prior to that the respondency system. Enterprise agreement coverage has fallen and individuals are in a worse bargaining position than ever, which is the biggest contributor to wage growth. Minimum wage growth is fixed via the Fair Work Commission and has been well above inflation recently. The nature of our minimum wage fixation system (it's not like America where they just fix a number once every decade or whatever) takes into account anticipated inflation rates.

Plenty of countries with weaker minimum wages have experience the outsourcing of manufacturing, because whether you like it or not we are a tiny country with a small domestic market and we don't culturally expect to live like the developing world. If you rid us of a minimum wage tomorrow I doubt manufacturing would return like the anti minimum wage and anti bargaining advocates profess.

Most of the poverty in this country doesn't come from the full time minimum wage worker. It comes from precarious work, underemployment, and a below poverty line social security benefit. Technology and globalisation also reduced the proportion of middle income level jobs across the whole OECD, and there was no correlation with how low or high the minimum wage was in these countries to the degree of middle income.job losses.

Full-time minimum wage workers, although nowhere near the position I'd like them to be in, have some of the best living conditions and purchasing power in the world. The list of highest minimum wage by purchasing power in the world is virtually a carbon copy of a who's who list for living standards and raw minimum wages.

If you fixed housing costs in this country, which has little to do with minimum wages (it's not minimum wage workers causing 4-10% growth in housing prices per year), our minimum wage workers would be pretty well off. Even with our absurd housing prices our minimum wage when accounting for purchasing power is the best in the world, or thereabouts.

You're an intelligent person and I really hope you can change your stance on this issue.
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This. Now as socialist as I am ( surprising I know), social housing fixes so many other problems. Dan Andrews $5,000,000,000 housing commission is the best policy that has been put in place in Victoria in the last 20 years.
 

Our new Unmanned combat aerial vehicle (UCAV). It will act as a forward sensor/shooter by relaying military info/intel to our new F-35’s to fuse together and disseminate to our wedge tails in the rear. Also carries long range AA missiles and missiles to destroy ground defences. Range of 3,700km with stealth. We are also buying new drones and finishing the acquisition of 72 F-35’s, which are short-range multiple purpose bomber with advanced stealth, information fusion and ISR capabilities.

Overwhelming USA tech with restricted sovereign control and little tech transference to Aus. You’ve got to wonder how much of this gear fits our actual needs.
 
Oh.........so the other mob a full of shit too..........what a massive surprise.

How's Joe going with Trump on the body count scoreboard? Has he passed him yet?
 

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Kangaroos4eva said:

Our new Unmanned combat aerial vehicle (UCAV). It will act as a forward sensor/shooter by relaying military info/intel to our new F-35’s to fuse together and disseminate to our wedge tails in the rear. Also carries long range AA missiles and missiles to destroy ground defences. Range of 3,700km with stealth. We are also buying new drones and finishing the acquisition of 72 F-35’s, which are short-range multiple purpose bomber with advanced stealth, information fusion and ISR capabilities.

Overwhelming USA tech with restricted sovereign control and little tech transference to Aus. You’ve got to wonder how much of this gear fits our actual needs.
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Most of it.

You need an edge if you are small, technology can be that edge.
 
B4Bear said:
Most of it.

You need an edge if you are small, technology can be that edge.
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I agree mostly too, but when you possess very low sovereign control over American-sourced the source codes, system integration (very important), tactical data links and stealth for most of our sophisticated weapons, then you are effectively latched on to US global/regional strategy. We are also constantly rewarded with new defence procurement incentives (enablers) when we have fought alongside them since 1956, which forces us to heavily arm for their expected operations and conditions us to continue supporting US strategy that isn't always conducive to our needs.

Sovereign control is basically the degree of control a sovereign control has over a military capability and it consists of technology transfers, local resupply and domestic industry input (autonomous development).

For example with the F-35:
Sensors, software, integration, radar and engine source codes have all been denied to Australia. Industry input has been limited to $2 billion across the entire multi-decade program producing sub-components.

Also,
Just on the F-35.

The JSF’s dependency on American mission data files, which are used to operate the sensors and mission systems, has diminished its effectiveness. Data loads containing health and maintenance information are transmitted through the Autonomic Logistic Information System (ALIS), which allows the efficient coordination of repair components. Updates from the USA were required before and after each sortie with the ALIS capable of preventing take-off’s if a data file is incomplete.[1] The entire weapon system would be crippled by an internet disruption “as the F-35 cannot operate unless it is logged into, and cleared by, ALIS. Updating and uploading mission data loads depends on a functioning Internet”.[2] The issues with the ALIS prevention system are worsened by the JSF’s high software demands and the reliance on US data files. Australia’s lack of any meaningful control over the availability of F-35 updates poses a substantial operational risk, including lengthy turnaround delays.[3] Defence plans to produce fifteen-minute refuel and rearm times for the JSF is inferior to the Gripen E fighter’s ten-minute turnaround.[4]

We have just to make trade-offs for that technological edge.
 
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B4Bear said:
This. Now as socialist as I am ( surprising I know), social housing fixes so many other problems. Dan Andrews $5,000,000,000 housing commission is the best policy that has been put in place in Victoria in the last 20 years.
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It's better than the $1,800,000,000 he's set aside for prisons? Just who do you think he is putting in these places? Toorak socialites?

You are a very naive young man.
 
Kangaroos4eva said:
I agree mostly too, but when you possess very low sovereign control over American-sourced the source codes, system integration (very important), tactical data links and stealth for most of our sophisticated weapons, then you are effectively latched on to US global/regional strategy. We are also constantly rewarded with new defence procurement incentives (enablers) when we have fought alongside them since 1956, which forces us to heavily arm for their expected operations and conditions us to continue supporting US strategy that isn't always conducive to our needs.

Sovereign control is basically the degree of control a sovereign control has over a military capability and it consists of technology transfers, local resupply and domestic industry input (autonomous development).

For example with the F-35:
Sensors, software, integration, radar and engine source codes have all been denied to Australia. Industry input has been limited to $2 billion across the entire multi-decade program producing sub-components.

Also,
Just on the F-35.

The JSF’s dependency on American mission data files, which are used to operate the sensors and mission systems, has diminished its effectiveness. Data loads containing health and maintenance information are transmitted through the Autonomic Logistic Information System (ALIS), which allows the efficient coordination of repair components. Updates from the USA were required before and after each sortie with the ALIS capable of preventing take-off’s if a data file is incomplete.[1] The entire weapon system would be crippled by an internet disruption “as the F-35 cannot operate unless it is logged into, and cleared by, ALIS. Updating and uploading mission data loads depends on a functioning Internet”.[2] The issues with the ALIS prevention system are worsened by the JSF’s high software demands and the reliance on US data files. Australia’s lack of any meaningful control over the availability of F-35 updates poses a substantial operational risk, including lengthy turnaround delays.[3] Defence plans to produce fifteen-minute refuel and rearm times for the JSF is inferior to the Gripen E fighter’s ten-minute turnaround.[4]

We have just to make trade-offs for that technological edge.
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We made that trade off decades ago with our tactical and operational communications systems. Everything, and I mean EVERYTHING since then in that regard is a sideshow.
 
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DesertRoo said:
Snake_Baker here’s one for you..
Boston public schools suspense enrolment in advance learning classes over racial profiling statics..
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Boston Public Schools Suspends Test For Advanced Learning Classes; Concerns About Program’s Racial Inequities Linger

An analysis of the program found that more than 70 percent of students enrolled in the program were white and Asian, even though nearly 80 percent of all Boston public school students are Hispanic and Black.
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Merit is becoming extinct.

The end result will be the collapse of civilisation.
 

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Lol at the idea that merit has ever been the governing principle for how our society is organised and governed
 
Coach Emeritus Scamper is out and about in paddock again:


he does however need to stay inside at night (she had a room for him to stay in at night)
 
Royal Flush said:
You mean covid is still alive in the US after the election?
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Amazing, isn't it?

It gives you an idea of the political depth of some folks around here.

I suppose the orange man's gone, and they won't get triggered as much by twitter, so it's some kind of a win. This is very, very important to the state of mankind.

Such are the trials & tribulations of a society consisting of fragile overindulged brats.
 
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