Your best retort is telling me I am intimate with dogs, spare me.So witty.
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Your best retort is telling me I am intimate with dogs, spare me.So witty.
I think if you give the third umpire 10 minutes to decide it'd be extremely unlikely that they'd make a mistake.
If you leave it to the onfield umpires then yeah I could see incidents like this drawing red cards in the moment, just because it looked so bad live.
Think the back and forth between people right now arguing whether Cameron should have been hypothetically sent off shows why it wouldn't work though. We all have different definitions of a dog act. If the AFL could communicate a clear and measureable definition it could work.
Yellow card, send them off for 10 minutes or until the next break. Decision then gets made in that time. Simple, and piss weak cretins like Cameron actually are then immediately responsible for their actions. Cowards pull those stunts on the footy field, as they know professionals won't sink to that level and belt him immediately.
Was Cameron's contact intentional or careless? I've only seen the incident a couple of times but could you make a case that he was bracing for impact rather than trying to kill the bloke?
Was Cameron's contact intentional or careless? I've only seen the incident a couple of times but could you make a case that he was bracing for impact rather than trying to kill the bloke?
What hasn't been mentioned is our forwards often use the double fist to try to bring the ball to ground when they aren't in the dominant position. They are obviously trained to do that. It went horribly wrong, and he definitely has a case to answer. I cant see deliberate. Probably the worse end of careless though.Was Cameron's contact intentional or careless? I've only seen the incident a couple of times but could you make a case that he was bracing for impact rather than trying to kill the bloke?
Was Cameron's contact intentional or careless? I've only seen the incident a couple of times but could you make a case that he was bracing for impact rather than trying to kill the bloke?
Unless Cameron comes out and explicitly states he meant to elbow Andrews in the head then there's enough doubt for it to be graded as careless.Intentional. His elbow was away from his body and held at shoulder height - it wasn’t tucked in to brace. The only possibility was a head high hit as soon as he jumped into the air, and at no point did he start to lower his elbow but instead turns his body to mitigate the impact on himself while doing maximum damage. He definitely meant to hurt Andrews no matter what he says.
So you'd be ok with me staying out on the ground if I deliberately kneed someone in the ribs and punctured their lungs as long as they weren't undergoing a concussion protocol? I'd be open to players who have been reported not being able to take the field whilst the player they smashed underwent concussion protocol assessment.
If the rule was implemented you'd think incidents like this where the player makes contact with the ball prior to hitting the player would be considered ok.
Leave it for the times players lead with elbows, fists or shoulders and go the man instead of the ball.
This.Nah..... they would rarely if ever get used... and we would also have to endure months of bullshit debate in the media.
They would have been interesting 30 years ago.
Unless Cameron comes out and explicitly states he meant to elbow Andrews in the head then there's enough doubt for it to be graded as careless.
There's nothing in his actions that suggest anything except he wanted to spoil and it went horribly wrong though.You don’t understand the MRO if you think it will be graded careless. The raising of the elbow will be deemed sufficient to classify it as intentional. The only way it could be deemed careless is if he went for the ball with a spoil, missed the ball and in the process clipped Andrews with a fist to the head.
It’s why Fyfe was graded as intentional. As soon as you raise the elbow, you are making a decision that your safety is more important than the safety of someone who doesn’t know what is coming.
Look at the footage and look where the ball is when Andrews spoils it - Cameron was nowhere near getting a fingertip on the ball and wasn’t even looking at the ball. He jumps and turns his body because he already knew the contact was coming before he even left the ground.
It was a weak as piss act from a player that has a history of doing s**t like this and getting away with it because he’s Jeremy Cameron.
Not this time.
There's nothing in his actions that suggest anything except he wanted to spoil and it went horribly wrong though.
Next time he should try to spoil with his fist and not his elbow.There's nothing in his actions that suggest anything except he wanted to spoil and it went horribly wrong though.
It's clearly absurd to suggest he was trying to spoil with an elbow. It would be perceptive if you sense me snorting with contempt.Next time he should try to spoil with his fist and not his elbow.
You think I haven't watched the video?Except for the fact that he a) is leading with his elbow, b) wasn’t even looking at the ball and c) made no attempt to actually spoil.
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Bent elbow held at shoulder height, turning the body....how any one could say he didn’t know what he was doing is ludicrous.