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i reckon with Nic Nat not being rubbed out, i think we are every chance of winning against the cats and the MCG.

they can't squeeze the opposition like they do at GMHBA stadium, which is not worthy of hosting a final.
 
My finals predictions are:

Bulldogs def GWS
Brisbane def Richmond

West Coast def Geelong
Richmond def Bulldogs

Brisbane def West Coast
Collingwood def Richmond

Collingwood def Brisbane

I reckon GWS will bounce back.

GWS def Bull
Rich def Bris

Geel def WCE
Bris def GWS

Coll def Bris
Rich def Geel

Rich def Coll

I just can't shake the feeling in my head that history says we lise Semi Finals after a flag.

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They’ve won 90 of their past 100 at GMHBA. Best 100 game record in AFL/VFL history. Can’t say with any confidence that we’d get it done there.

Geelong should host finals, especially when they’ve come first, but you can’t shift the goalposts half way. If they’d hosted tonight, they’d be playing a prelim by now. That’s changed the finals too much for a venue switch now to make it better. If an MCG final against an MCG tenant was home ground advantage, there’s no leg to stand on that an MCG final against a WA side isn’t.

AFL won’t pull the trigger, but if they do, jesus it’d be a farce.
If our club doesn't make a strong statement if the the venue gets changed we would be one of the most spineless sporting clubs in existence.

Time to flex some muscle. The days of being apologetic because of 2006 are over.
 
I reckon GWS will bounce back.

GWS def Bull
Rich def Bris

Geel def WCE
Bris def GWS

Coll def Bris
Rich def Geel

Rich def Coll

I just can't shake the feeling in my head that history says we lise Semi Finals after a flag.

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If our club doesn't make a strong statement if the the venue gets changed we would be one of the most spineless sporting clubs in existence.

Time to flex some muscle. The days of being apologetic because of 2006 are over.
The AFL said before the finals series that there will be no finals played at mdma stadium .
They cant change it now . As a club you have logistics of travel , strategy and membership flight/accommodation packages prepared .

We would more than likley have a direct flight private charter organised if it was to be played down in geelong.

Geelong need to suck it up ! They still get a home state advantage and a team traveling not to mention the best of both worlds with the victorian travel schedule plus genuine home games at an absolute fortress
 
I posted this in another thread but there is no way Gil gives up circa $2m revenue in forgone ticket sales to have the game in Geelong. Not to mention the additional food and beverage sales, tourism revenue traveling west coast fans bring to the state which doesn’t happen if the game is in Geelong. It’s just bad business and Gil isn’t a bad business man.

Geelong are a Victorian side and we are traveling to Victoria to play them at the home of football. The Vic media echo chamber will create a narrative because that’s they do to self sustain. Cannot see it happening in a million years.
 
All of this is so frustrating because I firmly believe Geelong should host all finals at GMHBA.

The key word there is all. I have no issue playing them in Geelong if Collingwood had to as well, but picking and choosing which rules apply for who is farcical.

For them to change venues is the right long term outcome, but in the short term it’d be a ****ed decision spinelessly implemented by the most reactive organisation in world sport.
 

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They’ve won 90 of their past 100 at GMHBA. Best 100 game record in AFL/VFL history. Can’t say with any confidence that we’d get it done there.

Geelong should host finals, especially when they’ve come first, but you can’t shift the goalposts half way. If they’d hosted tonight, they’d be playing a prelim by now. That’s changed the finals too much for a venue switch now to make it better. If an MCG final against an MCG tenant was home ground advantage, there’s no leg to stand on that an MCG final against a WA side isn’t.

AFL won’t pull the trigger, but if they do, jesus it’d be a farce.
The AFL has had some pretty farcical moments. Dont discount that this may occur.

Will be massive pressure on Geelong if it is.
 
There is zero chance they’ll move the game to Alphabet Soup Oval.

There’s more chance of a Scott twin knowing how to win a final than that occurring.

Boys be pumped for next week, it’s game on.
 
All of this is so frustrating because I firmly believe Geelong should host all finals at GMHBA.

The key word there is all. I have no issue playing them in Geelong if Collingwood had to as well, but picking and choosing which rules apply for who is farcical.

For them to change venues is the right long term outcome, but in the short term it’d be a f’ed decision spinelessly implemented by the most reactive organisation in world sport.

If they changed venues it would be another ‘exception’ as per last time (2013). There is zero chance, zero that Geelong would ever host Collingwood, Richmond, Essendon, Carlton or Hawthorn in Final there. So we have the laughable situation of the ‘administration’ of this league picking and choosing who can play there on a case by case basis (or more to the point - team by team). There is no long term outcome in mind here.
 
If they changed venues it would be another ‘exception’ as per last time (2013). There is zero chance, zero that Geelong would ever host Collingwood, Richmond, Essendon, Carlton or Hawthorn in Final there. So we have the laughable situation of the ‘administration’ of this league picking and choosing who can play there on a case by case basis (or more to the point - team by team). There is no long term outcome in mind here.

I don’t agree with this team by team policy but, given its what we’ve seemingly got, time to move on to point two of the conversation.

We don’t belong in the “exception” category. Arrogant to say, sure, but we’re too big.

60,000 at the G for our last final between the sides. 57,000 for our most recent game at the G, a home and away game no less. 36,000 capacity at GMHBA.

If “not locking people out” (revenue) is the name of the game, then making us play in Geelong doesn’t add up.
 
If they changed venues it would be another ‘exception’ as per last time (2013). There is zero chance, zero that Geelong would ever host Collingwood, Richmond, Essendon, Carlton or Hawthorn in Final there. So we have the laughable situation of the ‘administration’ of this league picking and choosing who can play there on a case by case basis (or more to the point - team by team). There is no long term outcome in mind here.
Its a Quirk of the afl
 

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All of this is so frustrating because I firmly believe Geelong should host all finals at GMHBA.

The key word there is all. I have no issue playing them in Geelong if Collingwood had to as well, but picking and choosing which rules apply for who is farcical.

For them to change venues is the right long term outcome, but in the short term it’d be a f’ed decision spinelessly implemented by the most reactive organisation in world sport.
Yep.
And to his credit, Scott opposes the MCG monopoly on Grand Finals. BT's comment that "no we can't play the game at GBP:AUD stadium because we can get more people into the 'G" is the exact logic that we're rallying against.
We're on the same side in terms of wanting the game to be as equitable as possible and opposing the financial interests of the league.

To give UNICEF stadium the semi would be a hilarious, embarrassing backflip for the league, and one that they would not have entertained if Geelong had won tonight. If they were to change the venue, it would be because of the backlash they would face if the minor premiers went out in straight sets, playing neither game at their home ground.
 
Our recent mcg record is much better than theirs .
In fact they struggle at the mcg
Apart from the travel we have the home ground advantage since it is very similar to optus and nothing like their cruddy patch
Put it this way

75/25 % confident. Trying to keep a lid on

At Alphabet Soup Stadium it swings to 15/85% confident

Can’t see it happening with the $$ AFL lose

Optus Stadium, ignoring injuries, has been the best thing to happen to WCE
 
I don’t agree with this team by team policy but, given its what we’ve seemingly got, time to move on to point two of the conversation.

We don’t belong in the “exception” category. Arrogant to say, sure, but we’re too big.

60,000 at the G for our last final between the sides. 57,000 for our most recent game at the G, a home and away game no less. 36,000 capacity at GMHBA.

If “not locking people out” (revenue) is the name of the game, then making us play in Geelong doesn’t add up.

Not arrogant at all 😛 Complete fact. Of the Non-Victorian sides, Brisbane, Sydney, Adelaide and us are probably ‘immune’ to having to play a final there. The VFL loves money so they will not take the risk in changing venues at such a time. Their beloved MCG is where the action must be!
 
Yep.
And to his credit, Scott opposes the MCG monopoly on Grand Finals.
We're on the same side in terms of wanting the game to be as equitable as possible and opposing the financial interests of the league.

To give UNICEF stadium the semi would be a hilarious, embarrassing backflip for the league, and one that they would not have entertained if Geelong had won tonight. If they were to change the venue, it would be because of the backlash they would face if the minor premiers went out in straight sets, playing neither game at their home ground.
I think to settle it they play the game at Optus :)
 
I guess the Cats could feel aggrieved seeing as the Giants are playing the Bulldogs at Giants Stadium, however that game would only field a crowd not much higher than 20 000 anyway, so there is no point in having a larger venue. Also, Giants Stadium is in the Sydney CBD, so doesn't present any extra travel considerations for the 'away' team.

If GMHBA seated 50 000 spectators maybe it would host would be more finals.
 
We would more than likley have a direct flight private charter organised if it was to be played down in geelong.
Umm... The Eagles are advertising a charter flight. Wouldn't take much to.move the flight itself if the AFL backtracked
 
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