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Where’s Carlton getting all this cash from. Surely we shake Fisher free next year

Carlton's always treated the salary cap as a loose guideline rather than a strict set of rules
 
Where’s Carlton getting all this cash from. Surely we shake Fisher free next year
What do you mean all this cash? Outside Cripps, I assume they'd get change from a $50 when paying the rest of their current list.
 

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For most people that would be true, however my own personal experience has encountered many such individuals who have an emotional pathology which prevents them from taking even the very slightest level of responsibility for their mistakes.

Unfortunately I can also attest that the highest levels of government and business in this country are full of these types of people.
Deflect, handball or find a scapegoat.

The key to moving up the management chain.
 
Where’s Carlton getting all this cash from. Surely we shake Fisher free next year
They've only paid 95% of their salary cap for years (as they didn't have enough good players to use it all up), so have banked it with a specific strategy of targeting free agents. It is quite clever and is exactly what the system was designed to allow.

I still think they will be average next year though. Their KPP stocks are not amazing.
 
Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences.

It simply means a government should not be able to arrest and prosecute you for expressing something that is not against the law.
And what is the consequence to his views? He is entitled to say it and shouldn't have to apologise in order to preserve his career. His comments are not at a level in which he should be chastised and treated like a neo nazi.

I guess this is just the new world we live in where everyone is silenced and most follow like a bunch of sheep.
 
And what is the consequence to his views? He is entitled to say it and shouldn't have to apologise in order to preserve his career. His comments are not at a level in which he should be chastised and treated like a neo nazi.

I guess this is just the new world we live in where everyone is silenced and most follow like a bunch of sheep.


The consequence of his views and his statements is that people question how he is supposed to be mayor of the city/represent the community. He didn't have to apologise, it was just in his best interest if he any intention of being the mayor or maintaining his media gigs.

In terms of the new world, more people than ever are allowed to express themselves and not hide who they really are, if anything there is less sheep than ever. It's just that the people that have previously made it difficult for others are now being told to pipe down and then cry about it.

Having a kid be comfortable being transgender is anything but falling in line and being a sheep.
 
I guess this is just the new world we live in where everyone is silenced and most follow like a bunch of sheep.

Yes, the breakfast radio host, Weekend Sunrise host, 7 news sports presenter, 7 AFL commentator and Lord Mayor of Perth has been silenced.
 
And what is the consequence to his views? He is entitled to say it and shouldn't have to apologise in order to preserve his career. His comments are not at a level in which he should be chastised and treated like a neo nazi.

I guess this is just the new world we live in where everyone is silenced and most follow like a bunch of sheep.

If I worked for Apple and I made a post on Facebook badmouthing Apple, I may reasonably expect consequences such as termination. If I called my neighbour a pedophile without any proof and it resulted in a loss of his reputation, he would be entitled to sue me for damages. If I was an elected representative and made a post that portions of my electorate found unpalatable, I may expect retribution via the courts or the ballot box.

It's really not a difficult line of reasoning here.
 
What do you mean all this cash? Outside Cripps, I assume they'd get change from a $50 when paying the rest of their current list.
They’re paying Jack Martin stupid amounts aren’t they? I assumed also McGovern.
 
The consequence of his views and his statements is that people question how he is supposed to be mayor of the city/represent the community. He didn't have to apologise, it was just in his best interest if he any intention of being the mayor or maintaining his media gigs.

A result of the PC world.

In terms of the new world, more people than ever are allowed to express themselves and not hide who they really are, if anything there is less sheep than ever. It's just that the people that have previously made it difficult for others are now being told to pipe down and then cry about it.

Having a kid be comfortable being transgender is anything but falling in line and being a sheep.
This can easily be seen differently.

People are literally being labelled people as racists, xenophobes, homophobes, islamophobes, for simply disagreeing with someone.

That in itself reverses your point that people are able to express themselves.

And with that I'll end my points, I can see that people are disagreeing with me (which I have no problem with by the way, as you are entitled to that)
 

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If I worked for Apple and I made a post on Facebook badmouthing Apple, I may reasonably expect consequences such as termination. If I called my neighbour a pedophile without any proof and it resulted in a loss of his reputation, he would be entitled to sue me for damages. If I was an elected representative and made a post that portions of my electorate found unpalatable, I may expect retribution via the courts or the ballot box.

It's really not a difficult line of reasoning here.
He literally said something that is taught to children. That should not warrant him to lose his job.
 
They’re paying Jack Martin stupid amounts aren’t they? I assumed also McGovern.
Think Carlton are getting a bit desperate to be finals contenders
 
They’re paying Jack Martin stupid amounts aren’t they? I assumed also McGovern.


Martin was heavily front ended so that no one picked him up on the draft wasn't he? Was in the top few on the comp this year
 

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My point isn't about gender orientation having a political bias.

My point is that he made the comment and retracted it, like the thousands of other celebrities/people known in the media who have done or said things, both past and present and made to apologise.

All to please said extremists who are baying for blood.

Basil will have to learn the art of politics, he is prone to brain farts from listening to his 882 breakfast show with Millsy ..


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FMD.
I'm spoilt for choice on our forum these days.

Can talk about chicks with dicks on this forum or Con the Fruiterer on the trade one.

Decisions decisions....
Good thing it's the weekend and you've got a coupla days to catch up.
 
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