Analysis Rolling All-Australian team for 2021

[JamesCroft89]

guy who makes a bad list excluding obvious all-Aus picks on football forum draws criticism.
Hardly shocking.

Did you have anything constructive to add cause your comment has been done before. Like a lot.

including jiath and ignoring Houston was always going to draw criticism from someone.

Its only going to draw criticism from crybaby Port fans like you, who can't handle it when opposition supporters don't give you the validation you desperately crave for your players.

 

[Forward Press]

guy who makes a bad list excluding obvious all-Aus picks on football forum draws criticism.
Hardly shocking.

Did you have anything constructive to add cause your comment has been done before. Like a lot.

including jiath and ignoring Houston was always going to draw criticism from someone.

Guy put up a good list, with lots of detail justifying the reasons for his more line-ball inclusions. And you get in a huff because your beloved Port player didn't make the cut. You don't see me whining about him not including Liam Ryan anywhere.

The only criticism I saw about Jiath over Houston is from you.

Let's see your rolling AA so I can be critical about it not having enough Eagles players.

 

[philthy05]

Its only going to draw criticism from crybaby Port fans like you, who can't handle it when opposition supporters don't give you the validation you desperately crave for your players.

this entire thread is people putting forward their opinion and 99% of it is their own players.

but you are having a big whinge about a port supporter.

why don’t you use your real account coward?

 

[Sweet Jesus]

You don't see me whining about him not including Liam Ryan anywhere.

Would you say he deserves a mention, though?

 

[philthy05]

Guy put up a good list, with lots of detail justifying the reasons for his more line-ball inclusions. And you get in a huff because your beloved Port player didn't make the cut. You don't see me whining about him not including Liam Ryan anywhere.

The only criticism I saw about Jiath over Houston is from you.

Let's see your rolling AA so I can be critical about it not having enough Eagles players.

lots of people have been selecting Houston, probably cause he got some press over in Victoria in the first couple of weeks.

houston has been killing it. I’m right to call out a guy for not including him, and right to call out his selection of jiath who while good is nowhere near all-Aus level yet

this entire thread is people putting forth candidates and the occasional one getting shot down. Whinging when someone debates something on a football forum is beyond bizarre.

How about those that are criticising me actually present a case for why I’m wrong, and how jiath is better than Houston?

 

[Sweet Jesus]

lots of people have been selecting Houston, probably cause he got some press over in Victoria in the first couple of weeks.

houston has been killing it. I’m right to call out a guy for not including him, and right to call out his selection of jiath who while good is nowhere near all-Aus level yet

this entire thread is people putting forth candidates and the occasional one getting shot down. Whinging when someone debates something on a football forum is beyond bizarre.

How about those that are criticising me actually present a case for why I’m wrong, and how jiath is better than Houston?

No Houston! We've got a problem.

 

[Forward Press]

lots of people have been selecting Houston, probably cause he got some press over in Victoria in the first couple of weeks.

houston has been killing it. I’m right to call out a guy for not including him, and right to call out his selection of jiath who while good is nowhere near all-Aus level yet

this entire thread is people putting forth candidates and the occasional one getting shot down. Whinging when someone debates something on a football forum is beyond bizarre.

How about those that are criticising me actually present a case for why I’m wrong, and how jiath is better than Houston?

It's pretty easy to pot a person that went to the trouble of compiling his or her rolling team without contributing their own. I thought it was a damn solid effort. You seem to be the only one so far with problems over it.

I don't think Houston over Jiath is as blatant as you think or some massive schoolboy error that needs the poster to be continuously derided over. Jiath was possibly BOG for Hawthorn on Monday, that alone doesn't mean he's 'nowhere near All-Aus level' after a huge sample size of 3 games...

 

[Donakebab]

lost me when you neglected the first non-kpp defender who should be picked, then ignored him in your next bunch of names.

jiath over Houston? fu** me.

Lost me when you shit on someone else's opinion but not willing to post a team yourself.

 

[raskolnikov]

lost me when you neglected the first non-kpp defender who should be picked, then ignored him in your next bunch of names.

jiath over Houston? fu** me.

I've watched all Port games and all Hawks games. Jiath has been better IMO. And I hate Hawthorn.

 

[philthy05]

Lost me when you sh*t on someone else's opinion but not willing to post a team yourself.

since when has it been a requirement to post a team here to comment?

I mean 8 of these 11 pages are an extension of a 3 year Gawn v Grundy v nicnat back and forth.

precious much?

 

[Donakebab]

since when has it been a requirement to post a team here to comment?

I mean 8 of these 11 pages are a 3 year Gawn v Grundy v nicnat back and forth.

precious much?

Dripping with irony given all you've done in the last couple of pages is have a massive whinge because someone didn't include poor old Port player.

Get a grip.

 

[Juddernaut08]

lots of people have been selecting Houston, probably cause he got some press over in Victoria in the first couple of weeks.

houston has been killing it. I’m right to call out a guy for not including him, and right to call out his selection of jiath who while good is nowhere near all-Aus level yet

this entire thread is people putting forth candidates and the occasional one getting shot down. Whinging when someone debates something on a football forum is beyond bizarre.

How about those that are criticising me actually present a case for why I’m wrong, and how jiath is better than Houston?

Perhaps watch some non-SA games. There are good players in other states too you know!

 

[SloppyJoe]

Houston definitely deserves a mention, but not this many mentions.

 

[Forward Press]

Houston definitely deserves a mention, but not this many mentions.

More Houston mentions in this thread than the Apollo 13 movie.

 

[kaiserchief13]

Simply helps back up an argument. An argument without any data is really just a belief. Didn't want it to appear like I was cherry picking stats that favoured Gawn.

Gawn is a gun no doubt, but taps from him that may come off as "to advantage" (and same with Grundy and all other rucks tbh) are worth about 30% (just a rough guess that I made up) of Naitanui's "to advantage" taps. Does any other ruck tap to player in stride as they are already breaking away from the stoppage with their opponent trailing behind them? Grundy's, Gawn's etc taps "to advantage" are to stationary team mates who get the ball first, but that doesn't really give them a high chance to score from there.

 

[Sweet Jesus]

Houston definitely deserves a mention.

 

[Sweet Jesus]

Gawn is a gun no doubt, but taps from him that may come off as "to advantage" (and same with Grundy and all other rucks tbh) are worth about 30% (just a rough guess that I made up) of Naitanui's "to advantage" taps. Does any other ruck tap to player in stride as they are already breaking away from the stoppage with their opponent trailing behind them? Grundy's, Gawn's etc taps "to advantage" are to stationary team mates who get the ball first, but that doesn't really give them a high chance to score from there.

They should create a new stat for NicNat.

 

[Sweet Jesus]

If Hurn gets picked this year, would he be the oldest player to be AA?

He'd have turned 34 a few weeks before the team gets named.

 

[Snarls Barkley]

If Hurn gets picked this year, would he be the oldest player to be AA?

He'd have turned 34 a few weeks before the team gets named.

Corey Enright was 35 for his last AA.

Couldn't find any older AA's but may have missed. Paul Roos would've been 34 for his last one, Craig Bradley would've been close to 34 for his last one.

 

[Sweet Jesus]

Corey Enright was 35 for his last AA.

Further proof that he's the most under-rated player in history. Despite being AA six times.

 

[Snarls Barkley]

Furth proof that he's the most under-rated player in history. Despite being AA six times.

Enright is the third-oldest All Australian after Michael Tuck (1990) and Malcolm Blight (1985).

Three Cats are All Australians

Patrick Dangerfield, Joel Selwood and Corey Enright have been named in the All Australian team

www.geelongcats.com.au

 

[Sweet Jesus]

Does anyone deserve a mention on the basis of the games so far this round?

 

[Sweet Jesus]

I wonder if it would be instructive to consider how many of the 22 players come from teams that play finals.

For example, in 2020 there were 18 players selected from teams that played finals. In 2019, also 18. In 2018, it was 17.

It's a small sample but it suggests that half the teams that play finals won't have a player and the other half will maybe get one. Teams that play finals will on average get two. That probably skews again towards the sides finishing top two and top four.

So for supporters of teams that won't play finals, how many of your players will ultimately deserve a mention? Probably one maximum. Or, just as likely, zero.

 

[Yoda_]

That’s one of the only stats he leads in. Fogarty is elite for tackles, inside 50s, score involvements, disposals and efficiency. All way ahead of AMT bar the SI. He even gets 3 clearances a game. 4 intercepts. All elite. It’s only a 3 game record but it’s ALL FOGARTY except for AMT has 3 more goals this year (an extra 1 a game). Half of which came in 1 game. FOG is ultra consistent.

Isn’t the role of a small forward, you know, kick goals?


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[Yoda_]

Does anyone deserve a mention on the basis of the games so far this round?

Jordan Ridley thanks Sydney Swans


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