Round 1 tips

[00Stinger]

Lol at anyone who tips Essendon to beat Gold Coast.

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[yyou]

BigFooty posters tips so far:

Richmond 33-2 Carlton
Melbourne 23-12 GWS
Gold Coast 33-2 Essendon
North Melbourne 18-17 Adelaide
Sydney 18-17 Collingwood
Western Bulldogs 20-15 Fremantle
Port Adelaide 32-3 St.Kilda
West Coast 35-0 Brisbane
Geelong 10-24 Hawthorn

Draw = 1
- Geelong v Hawthorn

I tipped Lions

 

[Mr_Moogle]

Every year I say I'm gonna make a bet on the footy and every year I walk away glad I didn't. My tipping on Port alone last year would have probably bankrupted me.

Tigers v Blues
Dees v Giants
Suns v Bombers
Roos v Crows
Swans v Pies
Dogs v Freo
Port v Saints
Eagles v Lions
Hawks v Cats

 

[The Brabazone]

Richmond def. Carlton- scrappy game where Carlton look much improved under Bolton, while Richmond look rusty but bank the 4 points.
Dees def. by Giants- tempted to tip the Dees here, but the Giants sense if they're going to play finals in 2016, these are the games they have to win (with or without Jezza), and they overcome the plucky Dees.
Suns def. Bombers- Comfortable win for the Suns, worse to come for the Bombers.
Roos def. by Adelaide- Crows come out all guns blazing under a new coach and in their first game sans Dangerfield. Question marks over North.
Swans def. Pies- If this was at ANZ Collingwood might edge it, but at the SCG the Swans will win a tight struggle.
Dogs def. by Freo- Dogs hold their own for three quarters, but sensing 2016 is their last roll of the dice, Freo bank a tough away win in the game of the round.
Port def. Saints- Port look excellent in easily dispatching the Saints. The beginning of a revival?
Eagles def. Lions- Eagles trounce the Lions, only the fact that they take their foot off the pedal prevents a triple figure hiding.
Hawks def. Cats- Dangerfield stars on debut, and the Cats are in the contest most of the day, but the Hawks relish playing the Cats nowadays, and run away from them in a high scoring shoot-out.

 

[Ekomaira]

Tigers v Blues
Dees v Giants
Suns v Bombers
Roos v Crows
Swans v Pies
Dogs v Freo
Port v Saints
Eagles v Lions
Hawks v Cats

 

[DaZorko]

Tigers
Demons
Bombers
Crows
Swans
Dockers
Port
Eagles
Cats

 

[Go the Guts]

Everyone's entitled to their opinion. I think the Crows best 22 substantially falls away after your top half dozen. Every club competing for a spot in the eight has midfielders as good as M. Crouch, small forwards as good as Cameron and key defenders as good as Brown. The likes of Jenkins and Douglas are AFL standard footballers but no more than that. Of the players you listed I would regard only Lever and B. Crouch as potential stars, and every club has players they're just as excited about (Cockatoo for us, Moore and DeGoey for Collingwood etc).

As for Geelong's recruitment, both Smith and Henderson have proven themselves to be very good footballers at times during their career. Scott Selwood in my opinion is depth only, but again he has had a B&F winning AA-quality season in the past. I can't say the same for Seedsman or Hampton. You're also neglecting to mention that we picked up one of the best five players in the competition who will improve our side not only by his own presence but by taking pressure off his teammates.

I don't think Adelaide is a bad side at all; I just think there will be at least eight teams better than you this year. We'll see who's right come September.

Hmm... In those outside our "top half dozen" are an AA, 1 of the best small backs in the comp, the no. 1 score assists player in the AFL, 2 top 10 draft picks including Rising Star runner up who will star once injury is behind him, blah blah blah.... And Jenkins hey. Just a question...how many 2nd tall forwards kicked 85 goals in their last 2 seasons? Just a standard 2nd best tall in the AFL he is though....Douglas has had a B&F season too, has shown more than S Selwood, is a penetrating goal kicking midfielder. You're really just talking like a typical cats dude who actually knows little about our side.

 

[Blues90]

Tigers
Giants
Suns
Roos
Pies
Freo
Port
Eagles
Cats

 

[MJC23]

Richmond v Carlton by 39 points
Melbourne v GWS by 15 points
Gold Coast v Essendon by 46 points
North Melbourne v Adelaide by 8 points
Sydney v Collingwood by 10 points
Western Bulldogs v Fremantle by 11 points
Port Adelaide v St Kilda by 21 points
West Coast v Brisbane by 33 points
Hawthorn v Geelong by 17 points

 

[moses]

Richmond v Carlton by 20 points
Melbourne v GWS by 5 points
Gold Coast v Essendon by 60 points
North Melbourne v Adelaide by 18 points
Sydney v Collingwood by 10 points
Western Bulldogs v Fremantle by 6 points
Port Adelaide v St Kilda by 31 points
West Coast v Brisbane by 70 points
Hawthorn v Geelong by 18 points

 

[Gronkd]

Tigers v Blues
Dees v Giants
Suns v Bombers
Roos v Crows
Swans v Pies
Dogs v Freo
Port v Saints
Eagles v Lions
Hawks v Cats

 

[Tiger71]

Hmm... In those outside our "top half dozen" are an AA, 1 of the best small backs in the comp, the no. 1 score assists player in the AFL, 2 top 10 draft picks including Rising Star runner up who will star once injury is behind him, blah blah blah.... And Jenkins hey. Just a question...how many 2nd tall forwards kicked 85 goals in their last 2 seasons? Just a standard 2nd best tall in the AFL he is though....Douglas has had a B&F season too, has shown more than S Selwood, is a penetrating goal kicking midfielder. You're really just talking like a typical cats dude who actually knows little about our side.

Jesus mate, stop being so defensive.

This thread is about tips, not a justification about why someone tipped the way they did or why someone thinks the crows are good/bad.

 

[EBERT THE KING]

You'd want to win this. Pressure is on North. You haven't won a round 1 clash in 7 years I think? Big expectations

bit of pressure on Adelaide now after all their supporters have jumped on and tipped them to travel to Melbourne and knock off the prelim finalists.

FWIW i think Adelaide will finish bottom 6. horror run early

 

[fpm84]

Hmm... In those outside our "top half dozen" are an AA, 1 of the best small backs in the comp, the no. 1 score assists player in the AFL, 2 top 10 draft picks including Rising Star runner up who will star once injury is behind him, blah blah blah.... And Jenkins hey. Just a question...how many 2nd tall forwards kicked 85 goals in their last 2 seasons? Just a standard 2nd best tall in the AFL he is though....Douglas has had a B&F season too, has shown more than S Selwood, is a penetrating goal kicking midfielder. You're really just talking like a typical cats dude who actually knows little about our side.

And you're talking like a typical Crows fan who can't accept that the majority of neutral fans and 'experts' tip Adelaide to miss the finals this year.

 

[fpm84]

Laird and Smith have also been in the AA squad.
Tom Lynch is #1 in the AFL for assists.
Seedsman is also on the fringe at Adelaide, but he has built some fitness over the preseason and might just snag a round 1 place.
Hampton is certainly not set to play round 1.
Milera is all class, and will probably make the squad for round 1, but he was not formerly on the fringe of the best 22 at non-finals clubs last year.
Brad Crouch is virtually a new quality player for the side.
Matt Crouch has been a standout in the NAB cup and looks set to step up.

Competition for a place in the side for round 1 is intense ... the exact opposite of a "lack of depth".

Apart form that ... you got virtually nothing else right either.

I could follow your lead and highlight stories about how Mitch Duncan is an elite kick or how some believe Mark Blicavs is revolutionising the game or how more AFL captains believe Patrick Dangerfield will win the Brownlow than any other player.

But what's the point? I watch a lot of football and a lot of Adelaide games. I don't need statistics and media puff pieces to form my opinions.

I know that last year Adelaide had just three H&A wins over eventual finalists, including one over a very disinterested West Coast late in the season. I also know you had a charmed run with injury, a cushy draw (2x games against Brisbane and Gold Coast, 1x trip to Perth) and that you've since lost your best player.

Why is it so hard for Adelaide supporters to accept others don't rate your 2016 chances like you do?

 

[EBERT THE KING]

I could follow your lead and highlight stories about how Mitch Duncan is an elite kick or how some believe Mark Blicavs is revolutionising the game or how more AFL captains believe Patrick Dangerfield will win the Brownlow than any other player.

But what's the point? I watch a lot of football and a lot of Adelaide games. I don't need statistics and media puff pieces to form my opinions.

I know that last year Adelaide had just three H&A wins over eventual finalists, including one over a very disinterested West Coast late in the season. I also know you had a charmed run with injury, a cushy draw (2x games against Brisbane and Gold Coast, 1x trip to Perth) and that you've since lost your best player.

Why is it so hard for Adelaide supporters to accept others don't rate your 2016 chances like you do?

Game
Set
Match

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

And you're talking like a typical Crows fan who can't accept that the majority of neutral fans and 'experts' tip Adelaide to miss the finals this year.

The same neutral fans and experts that tipped us to miss finals last year. It's a fact that if you're not a Victoria club, then you tend to you're criminally underrated. And if you're a Victoria club you tend to be criminally overrated. Eg richmonds and geelongs anticipated rises despite having completely impotent forward lines.

 

[I Lost My Keays]

I could follow your lead and highlight stories about how Mitch Duncan is an elite kick or how some believe Mark Blicavs is revolutionising the game or how more AFL captains believe Patrick Dangerfield will win the Brownlow than any other player.

But what's the point? I watch a lot of football and a lot of Adelaide games. I don't need statistics and media puff pieces to form my opinions.

I know that last year Adelaide had just three H&A wins over eventual finalists, including one over a very disinterested West Coast late in the season. I also know you had a charmed run with injury, a cushy draw (2x games against Brisbane and Gold Coast, 1x trip to Perth) and that you've since lost your best player.

Why is it so hard for Adelaide supporters to accept others don't rate your 2016 chances like you do?

I would be happy to make finals again this year , I just don't understand why so many people have written us off? Oh that's right it's because it's the loss of Dangerfield

 

[fpm84]

I would be happy to make finals again this year , I just don't understand why so many people have written us off? Oh that's right it's because it's the loss of Dangerfield

You can't underestimate the loss of Dangerfield. His loss won't make you plummet to the bottom four or six IMO, but may be the difference if you get into a few close games. I know some Crows fans are comforting themselves with the fact that Geelong and Hawthorn won flags immediately after losing Ablett/Franklin but those Geelong and Hawthorn sides were already stacked with two-time premiership players. It's not really the same scenario.

I'm certainly not 'writing the Crows off' either. I think you have to look at the whole picture. Six of your first eight games are against last year's finalists (including Hawthorn, Fremantle, Sydney and North) and the other two are against teams widely expected to make the eight this year in Port Adelaide and Geelong. A 4-4 start would be a terrific result yet you would still be chasing tail for the rest of the season. We started last season 1-3 (losses to Hawthorn, Fremantle and North) and couldn't make up the difference despite going the rest of the year 10-6-1.

Ultimately I think it will be a really even season. Adelaide is in the mix to potentially play finals but you will need a lot to go right for you (eg keep irreplaceable players like Jacobs and Talia fit, don't drop any unexpected games against lowly teams, Brad Crouch to stay healthy and help fill the Danger void) to do so.

 

[fpm84]

The same neutral fans and experts that tipped us to miss finals last year. It's a fact that if you're not a Victoria club, then you tend to you're criminally underrated. And if you're a Victoria club you tend to be criminally overrated. Eg richmonds and geelongs anticipated rises despite having completely impotent forward lines.

Fremantle has a completely impotent forward line and very few are tipping them to slide even out of the top four let alone the eight.

I think Fremantle, Sydney, West Coast and Port Adelaide are in the top four mix and will be shocked if any of them miss finals altogether.

Exactly where is the Victorian bias?

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

Fremantle has a completely impotent forward line and very few are tipping them to slide even out of the top four let alone the eight.

I think Fremantle, Sydney, West Coast and Port Adelaide are in the top four mix and will be shocked if any of them miss finals altogether.

Exactly where is the Victorian bias?

Fremantle are proving in the 2010's what Adelaide proved in the mid 2000's. Whilst it's possible to make top 4 consistently off the back of a decent midfield and backline, you are no chance at the flag without firepower up forward.

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

Fremantle has a completely impotent forward line and very few are tipping them to slide even out of the top four let alone the eight.

I think Fremantle, Sydney, West Coast and Port Adelaide are in the top four mix and will be shocked if any of them miss finals altogether.

Exactly where is the Victorian bias?

I think Richmond are the classic example. Every single year we listen to how they are on the rise again. Top 4. Smokey for the flag. I swear I wouldn't be a tigers supporter for quids. Must be a constant disappointment.

 

[fpm84]

Fremantle are proving in the 2010's what Adelaide proved in the mid 2000's. Whilst it's possible to make top 4 consistently off the back of a decent midfield and backline, you are no chance at the flag without firepower up forward.

We're on the same page there. I think Fremantle will be top four quality again this year but won't win the flag. If they'd landed McCarthy it could be a different story. All they're missing is another key forward to kick 30-50.

 

[marty36]

You can't underestimate the loss of Dangerfield. His loss won't make you plummet to the bottom four or six IMO, but may be the difference if you get into a few close games. I know some Crows fans are comforting themselves with the fact that Geelong and Hawthorn won flags immediately after losing Ablett/Franklin but those Geelong and Hawthorn sides were already stacked with two-time premiership players. It's not really the same scenario.

I'm certainly not 'writing the Crows off' either. I think you have to look at the whole picture. Six of your first eight games are against last year's finalists (including Hawthorn, Fremantle, Sydney and North) and the other two are against teams widely expected to make the eight this year in Port Adelaide and Geelong. A 4-4 start would be a terrific result yet you would still be chasing tail for the rest of the season. We started last season 1-3 (losses to Hawthorn, Fremantle and North) and couldn't make up the difference despite going the rest of the year 10-6-1.

Ultimately I think it will be a really even season. Adelaide is in the mix to potentially play finals but you will need a lot to go right for you (eg keep irreplaceable players like Jacobs and Talia fit, don't drop any unexpected games against lowly teams, Brad Crouch to stay healthy and help fill the Danger void) to do so.

Apart from 2 or 3 teams injury will determine where you and every other club finishes

You should be totally aware of this from first hand experience

 

[JohnnyFontane90]

I would be happy to make finals again this year , I just don't understand why so many people have written us off? Oh that's right it's because it's the loss of Dangerfield

dangerfield won't be that big a loss. brad crouch is almost a new signing and matt crouch looks to have gone to the next level. don't get me wrong danger's a superstar but one midfielder has never made a team. nobody knows that better than carlton fans.

i've written them off because it wouldn't take a lot going wrong to start the season at 0-8.