Round 16 Trades

[Tippaz]

want to do:

Porplyzia -> Franklin

i've finally got a good reason to axe the Porpoise - hooray.
unfortunately, he is my only Adelaide player, and i will no longer own at least 1 player from every team.
LBF has an attractive pricetag !!

 

[TriMegCai]

5 trades left & 63600 to play with.

Thinking of trading Palmer to Kane Johnson (ave 90 & capable of putting in big scores) giving me a profit of 25k.

Simon Black is concerning me (ave 65 last 3 rounds & has a big BE) so may upgrade him to someone around 380000 mark (possibly Daniel Cross)as I plan to trade Porps to R Murphy next week.

Leaves me with just the 2 trades for the last 5 weeks & no cover in the rucks.

Any thoughts?

 

[MrChristo]

So it's either,

Lucas and Didak
or
O'Keefe and Stokes

Fairly tough choice but i'd probably go with Lucas and Didak, bit more of a risk but has much more upside about it. I don't see Stokes averaging 84 for the rest of the year and O'Keefe's form is a worry at the moment. I like the look of Didak, especially at that price and Lucas is proven and even if he doesn't get back to his best, could still average between 65-70 which is very servicable for someone at 253k.

Anyone else have any input into the forward situation?

I'd be extremely wary of Lucas. Kicked 5 goals, but also had 6 tackles this week. Highly unusual.

How about Brahshaw? $257,100.
Av. artificially low because of his 6...which disappears this week, so his price will shoot up.

Does that still leave enough to grab Didak?...Gia about $2k cheaper...and Murphy will be significantly cheaper next week...
...or one really out of left field, Bate. 1095 coaches!!
Av's 87...91 last 5...and has just 1 game <71 ($353k)

...or...Petrie. Just over 2000 coaches...av'd over 99 in his last 5, and 87 has been his lowest in the last 6. ($357k)


I've got the same two out (Burton/Porps), but a bit more $ handy.
Reckon I'll grab Gia and Franklin...with a slight thought to get Chapman and hope Murphy drops down to $325ish...
[Have Richo, Didak, Pav, Aker, Rioli]

 

[The_Gunny_Bomber]

5 trades left & 63600 to play with.

Thinking of trading Palmer to Kane Johnson (ave 90 & capable of putting in big scores) giving me a profit of 25k.

Simon Black is concerning me (ave 65 last 3 rounds & has a big BE) so may upgrade him to someone around 380000 mark (possibly Daniel Cross)as I plan to trade Porps to R Murphy next week.

Leaves me with just the 2 trades for the last 5 weeks & no cover in the rucks.

Any thoughts?

With 5 trades left I would keep black unless he is out for more than 2 if you have decent cover. 2 trades left is a bit risky imo.

 

[Porps_is_HOT_loz]

I can keep Porps to save a trade (since I only have 4) which is;
Porps --> o'Keefe

But another option is;

Keeping Porps and playing Tippett and then using that trade to downgrade Myers which will give me some handy cash. That will leave me with 3 trades and then I can upgrade Ibbo/Wona this week to Birch and Stevens to a gun at finals time?
Thoughts ?

 

[Kid A]

Don't upgrade Stevens. I'm sure you have more pressing upgrades.

 

[Porps_is_HOT_loz]

5 trades left & 63600 to play with.

Thinking of trading Palmer to Kane Johnson (ave 90 & capable of putting in big scores) giving me a profit of 25k.

Simon Black is concerning me (ave 65 last 3 rounds & has a big BE) so may upgrade him to someone around 380000 mark (possibly Daniel Cross)as I plan to trade Porps to R Murphy next week.

Leaves me with just the 2 trades for the last 5 weeks & no cover in the rucks.

Any thoughts?

If you havent heard the news; Porps should be back by round 19.. or even earlier!
So you can save a trade by just keeping Porps and playing your backup reserves (thats if you have any.)

There is nothing wrong with having Simon Black as a premium but Cross is deffiently better to have in your team

 

[Porps_is_HOT_loz]

Don't upgrade Stevens. I'm sure you have more pressing upgrades.

Yeah I might get rid of him if people start tagging him ahead of Judd though; but besides that I cant see why I would trade him out as he is capible of 100+ scores.
The only 2 I really want to get rid of is Wona and Ibbo.

Should I;
1. Trade Porps for O'keefe and just leave Ibbo and Wona
or
2. Keep Porps and play Tippett, downgrade Myers (have Houlihan on the bench aswell) then upgrade Ibbo/Wona.
Later on I can upgrade the other.

Thoughts?

 

[banana_bus]

If you havent heard the news; Porps should be back by round 19.. or even earlier!
So you can save a trade by just keeping Porps and playing your backup reserves (thats if you have any.)

There is nothing wrong with having Simon Black as a premium but Cross is deffiently better to have in your team

Porps wont be back before rd 19, and when he does come back he will be Adelaide's main forward (with Tippet) and will not score highly. Plus he will probably do his shoulder again in any case, hes already done it twice this season.

 

[sherrin_footy]

i'm also concerned about jeff white, have 6 trades left, and have enough money to go to white - > cox and porplyzia -> didak.

but id rather save trades for later on, just depends if white can earn back his spot in the team..

 

[banana_bus]

i'm also concerned about jeff white, have 6 trades left, and have enough money to go to white - > cox and porplyzia -> didak.

but id rather save trades for later on, just depends if white can earn back his spot in the team..

If I were you I would trade. Cox is a must and Porps is gone.

 

[Dugong]

Any suggestions on the following??........can have any combination

Porps - Cloke, Davis, Stokes

Black - Thompson, Corey, Cross

Thx

 

[The_Gunny_Bomber]

Any suggestions on the following??........can have any combination

Porps - Cloke, Davis, Stokes

Black - Thompson, Corey, Cross

Thx

I wouldn't want any of those forwards but I think davis is the best option.
Would go for Corey out of those mids. Thompson and Cross are a bit iffy in my opinion and Corey stormed home at the end of last season

 

[Dugong]

I wouldn't want any of those forwards but I think davis is the best option.
Would go for Corey out of those mids. Thompson and Cross are a bit iffy in my opinion and Corey stormed home at the end of last season

Yeah I don't really want any of those forwards either but for what I want to spend they seem to be about my best options

 

[Piikeyyy]

Ive got the porps to get rid of this round. As i got no backup emergencies that will play.
With 3 trades im pretty hesitant on trading but it seems a must in my league playing the top team, and 1 position out of the top 4. ( Ive actually got the highest overall points in my league by about 500 but i have had a an unlucky run)

So ive got 365 300 and can get:

Giansiracusa
Murphy
Franklin
or Nathan Brown.

Franklin's price is pretty attractive and is looking like the go to, as the others would only leave me a max of about 5k in the bank.

Any suggestions?

 

[The_Gunny_Bomber]

Ive got Palmer and Cotchin starting with Browne and Eddy on the bench. I was going to upgrade Cotchin in a couple of weaks but after Bell retiring and Palmer looking like he is slowing down a little I am thinking that I might be better off trading Palmer now seeing as that gives me ~430k for a premium and keeping Cotchin for most of the rest of the season. This would leave me with 3 trades left after I have traded porps for Buddy. What do you guys think? P.S. do you think that the fact that Cotch played the Eagles and Palmer played the Cats is the only reason Im thinking they will average about the same or am I right that Cotch is picking up and Palmer is slowing down? cheers

 

[GrayNicolls]

yeah i reckon palmer is slowing down but in saying that he's freo's number 1 mid and doesn't mind subi oval

i'm considering trading out palmer this week and playing cotchin - i still have mclean on the bench

 

[Daz]

Havn't been hit by any injuries this week but need to attend to Myers who was starting for me. After seeing Lachie Hansen's first 3 games this year I have decided that there is no way he can fill in for me for the entire year. So I need to find a replacement for Myers under $258,000. These are the players I am currently considering with their approx prices for the next round.

Matthew Wheelan $257,300

With the way the Dees have been chipping the ball down back he has to be an option. The worry is he has only put in one decent score.

Andrew Mcleod $248,200

Unfortuately it seems he will be unavailable next week so not really an option.

Bret Thornton $232,000

The one I am strongly considering atm. Has the ability to score big with scores of 124, 105, 93 and 89 this week so the form is back. I get the feeling that when Carlton have a full backline that frees up Thornton to score well and with guys like Jamison back he could continue to score well. His recent form is also understandable considering he came back from a serious injury quite soon. If any Blues fans could add any insight into this it would be appreciated.

Dustin Fletcher $222,800

Injury is a worry but last year shows that Dustin can score big. Even this year he has scored 128 and 104. Averaged 84 last year so the potential is there. I would actually gain 10k if I made this trade as well. Could pay off big, could be disastrous.


All of these options are very risky but I have to take 1 of them or play Hansen all year (until Myers gets back so basically all year). So I have a big decision to make.

Honestly, it tough but i think his scored goes along with this pattern. At full strength i would say Waite, Bower, Jamison and O'hAlpain would take the tallish forwards which frees up Thornton. With Bower out for the season that moves him up to 4th which means if an option isn't working down back, he will be given a go which holts his scores. If there aren't many tall match ups he will score well but many teams have 3 tall options forward which means at some point Thornton is likely to be given a go on one of them. I would think what he is averaging now is about right, between 65-70.

I'd say it's between him and Whelan who has the ability to score well now due to the Dees more defensive type gameplan Bailey has employed in the last 4 matches (keepings off). I'd probably go Whelan but not by much. I was think Whelan last week due to him being 228k but went for C.Johnson instead, liking it so far.

I have now realised Daniel Bradshaw is an option which would leave me with approx 1k in the bank (as would Wheelan). He is underpriced atm because the 6 he scored due to injury has just done its final rotation through his price changes. He has a BE of 31. These are his scores throughout the year.

Rd 1: 56
Rd 2: 54
Rd 3: 104
Rd 4: 103
Rd 5: 113
Rd 6: 92
Rd 7: 31
Rd 8: 57
Rd 9: 96
Rd 10: 95
Rd 11: 6 (injured missed another 2 weeks)
Rd 14: 68
Rd 15: 99

So what I've got to do is figure out approximately what he will average for the remaining 7 games this year. Considering he was returning from a serious knee injury and wasn't expected to return until Round 3 I am going to leave out his first 2 scores of 56 and 54. I am also going to leave out the 6 he scored due to injury and the 68 he scored returning from that injury. The average from the remaining games is an impressive 88 points. Now by no means do I expect him to average that as I believe a large amount of it must be put down to superb form but I do believe he could average around 80. At his price of $257,100 it is hard to go past him.

This is the Lions run home and using the Fanfooty Player Type Breakdown, their ranking of points conceded to Tall-Key-Fwd players. 1 being the least conceded 16 being the most.

West Coast (6th)
Richmond (13th)
Kangaroos (8th)
Hawthorn (16th) Interesting considering the criticism Gilham, Brown & Croad get.
Bulldogs (5th)
Carlton (11th)
Sydney (7th)

So it's not a bad draw but not great either. A few tough games in there and you would expect him to go quiet in a few of them.

It also seems that Mcleod will play this week so I have some questions I need to answer.

Is it safe to have no money in the bank? If so...
Will Bradshaw outscore Whelan?
Will Bradshaw outscore Mcleod?

Is Bradshaw worth 26k more than Thornton?
Is Bradshaw worth 35k more than Fletcher?

Hmm one of the tougher decisions I will have to make. At this early stage of my thinking I am leaning towards Bradshaw.

 

[Porps_is_HOT_loz]

I have now realised Daniel Bradshaw is an option which would leave me with approx 1k in the bank (as would Wheelan). He is underpriced atm because the 6 he scored due to injury has just done its final rotation through his price changes. He has a BE of 31. These are his scores throughout the year.

Rd 1: 56
Rd 2: 54
Rd 3: 104
Rd 4: 103
Rd 5: 113
Rd 6: 92
Rd 7: 31
Rd 8: 57
Rd 9: 96
Rd 10: 95
Rd 11: 6 (injured missed another 2 weeks)
Rd 14: 68
Rd 15: 99

So what I've got to do is figure out approximately what he will average for the remaining 7 games this year. Considering he was returning from a serious knee injury and wasn't expected to return until Round 3 I am going to leave out his first 2 scores of 56 and 54. I am also going to leave out the 6 he scored due to injury and the 68 he scored returning from that injury. The average from the remaining games is an impressive 88 points. Now by no means do I expect him to average that as I believe a large amount of it must be put down to superb form but I do believe he could average around 80. At his price of $257,100 it is hard to go past him.

This is the Lions run home and using the Fanfooty Player Type Breakdown, their ranking of points conceded to Tall-Key-Fwd players. 1 being the least conceded 16 being the most.

West Coast (6th)
Richmond (13th)
Kangaroos (8th)
Hawthorn (16th) Interesting considering the criticism Gilham, Brown & Croad get.
Bulldogs (5th)
Carlton (11th)
Sydney (7th)

So it's not a bad draw but not great either. A few tough games in there and you would expect him to go quiet in a few of them.

It also seems that Mcleod will play this week so I have some questions I need to answer.

Is it safe to have no money in the bank? If so...
Will Bradshaw outscore Whelan?
Will Bradshaw outscore Mcleod?

Is Bradshaw worth 26k more than Thornton?
Is Bradshaw worth 35k more than Fletcher?

Hmm one of the tougher decisions I will have to make. At this early stage of my thinking I am leaning towards Bradshaw.

Nice work Dazza/
I agree that Bradshaw is the best option going around ATM out of them.

This is a bit of an expiment but I know its stupid.

Does everyone think Cox will play for the rest of the year??
Does everyone think that Stevens will get the heavy tag ahead of Judd for the rest of they year like last week?

Well I just wanted to know because I have 4 trades left and my only injury worries are Porps and Chad. Chad looks fine and should play for the rest of the year but I was thinking of using all these trades all in a few weeks.

Why?
1. I want to get rid of Porps as I dont feel safe keeping Tippett onfield
2. I want to get rid of Wona and/ or Ibbo as I want to get Wheatley. If I get rid of both I can also get Birchal but there is really no use as they average the same.
3. Stevens has a huge breakeven and if he cops the heavy tag for the rest of the year; he will be forced to only 80 maximum scores (you would think.)
4. I will have to downgrade Myers to do this.

I have 15k in the bank. If i downgrade Myers to Collier/Allen it will leave me with about 130k. This will allow me to upgrade Ibbo/Wona to Wheatley and upgrade Porps to o'Keefe. Now I can wait a week for o"keefe since his B/E is so high and Tippett should have a good game in the showdown.

EDIT: Dont worry about Stevens; I dont have enough money to upgrade him.

 

[Jimhouse]

I think Chad might not last the year but Cox on the other hand looks quite likely to do so. It will probably be the clubs choice to rest him if he does sit out the last couple.

Bradshaw and Mcleod are the 2 I was looking at Dazza. Since I am only going for a league win(ranked 3,555) I think I'll just play Hansen for a few weeks. Both Macca and Bradshaw verse Sydney again but Bradshaw scored 100+ last time against them so who knows what will happen...

 

[Dugong]

I have now realised Daniel Bradshaw is an option which would leave me with approx 1k in the bank (as would Wheelan). He is underpriced atm because the 6 he scored due to injury has just done its final rotation through his price changes. He has a BE of 31. These are his scores throughout the year.

Rd 1: 56
Rd 2: 54
Rd 3: 104
Rd 4: 103
Rd 5: 113
Rd 6: 92
Rd 7: 31
Rd 8: 57
Rd 9: 96
Rd 10: 95
Rd 11: 6 (injured missed another 2 weeks)
Rd 14: 68
Rd 15: 99

So what I've got to do is figure out approximately what he will average for the remaining 7 games this year. Considering he was returning from a serious knee injury and wasn't expected to return until Round 3 I am going to leave out his first 2 scores of 56 and 54. I am also going to leave out the 6 he scored due to injury and the 68 he scored returning from that injury. The average from the remaining games is an impressive 88 points. Now by no means do I expect him to average that as I believe a large amount of it must be put down to superb form but I do believe he could average around 80. At his price of $257,100 it is hard to go past him.

This is the Lions run home and using the Fanfooty Player Type Breakdown, their ranking of points conceded to Tall-Key-Fwd players. 1 being the least conceded 16 being the most.

West Coast (6th)
Richmond (13th)
Kangaroos (8th)
Hawthorn (16th) Interesting considering the criticism Gilham, Brown & Croad get.
Bulldogs (5th)
Carlton (11th)
Sydney (7th)

So it's not a bad draw but not great either. A few tough games in there and you would expect him to go quiet in a few of them.

It also seems that Mcleod will play this week so I have some questions I need to answer.

Is it safe to have no money in the bank? If so...
Will Bradshaw outscore Whelan?
Will Bradshaw outscore Mcleod?

Is Bradshaw worth 26k more than Thornton?
Is Bradshaw worth 35k more than Fletcher?

Hmm one of the tougher decisions I will have to make. At this early stage of my thinking I am leaning towards Bradshaw.

Yeah, I've got Bradshaw and I'm pretty confident of his form and the Lions run into the finals looks ok. Should be interesting to see the severity of Browns injury and what impact that will have on Bradshaws role (even though it only seems a minor injury). I've got Mcleod as well and I'm hoping.....crossing everything....that when he comes back he's going to nail it. Lot of injuries in the Crows and his role/impact will hopefully change.

 

[Porps_is_HOT_loz]

I think Chad might not last the year but Cox on the other hand looks quite likely to do so. It will probably be the clubs choice to rest him if he does sit out the last couple.

Cheers
Do you think these trades are reasonable??
I could also get Mackie but that will mean 5 Geelong players..

 

[Daz]

I certainly do, it much more enjoyable that way i feel. I don't pick players just because their unique there has to be a theory and reason behind them. I still have Cox, Brown, Pavlich,Bartel, Kornes, Cornes, Shaw, Corey etc but i like to through in a few different players in. If there are two players who will average roughly the same for the rest of the year, i'd pick the more 'unique' player hands down.

I've taken Brennan, T.Edwards and C.Johnson in the past few weeks, all turned out better choices than anyone else i could have selected. Thinking Davis this week for Porplyzia which is another risk but i it has plenty of upside, arguably more than O'Keefe, Stokes or anyone else around that price for the rest of the year.

Another one to look at could be Lloyd. In the past 4 games the Bombers have changed a fair few things. One of them is Lloyd being freed up. He has scored 113, 96, 85 and 95. Contrary to popular belief he can play positions other than FF and he has an exceptional tank. Should definately be considered IMO.

 

[Juddtastic]

Hey Dazza what about J.Drummond or Macdonald from the lions? Both their price tags are coming down at a rate of nots and might be worth a look if they regain form & fitness

Edit I just realised you won't have enough cash unless they have a horror run!

 

[Cruiser23]

Another one to look at could be Lloyd. In the past 4 games the Bombers have changed a fair few things. One of them is Lloyd being freed up. He has scored 113, 96, 85 and 95. Contrary to popular belief he can play positions other than FF and he has an exceptional tank. Should definately be considered IMO.

True, is definately another option. I was having a look at him when i was making the list and noticed the change in his form, kind of forgot to include him. 319k is a pretty good price for someone who has averaged 97 over the past 4 weeks but look at the teams he's scored well against. It has been West Coast, Carlton, Fremantle and Brisbane, not what you call good backlines at the moment. He plays Richmond, Collingwood, Melbourne, West Coast, Adelaide, Bulldogs and St.Kilda, all of which either have good backlines or don't give up many DT points. Not sure, maybe a 75-80 average from here on, don't think he is one of the best options but should be considered.