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Round 4 Vs Sydney

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We've got a really tough one coming up this week.

Roos is the master of the super flood and at strangling the ability of teams to play the style of footy that we did yesterday.

They're a pretty good team in good nick just having beaten Brisbane and we have to travel to Sydney for the game.

I think it'll be an ugly scrappy game, and we'll start underdogs, and rightly so given the above.

Let's hope we can snare the 4 points. ;)
 
Sydney are a little bit incosistent so we would have to be a chance, see if we have gotten over the win against the power and win.

A huge challenge.
 
meh said:
Sydney are a little bit incosistent so we would have to be a chance, see if we have gotten over the win against the power and win.

A huge challenge.

meh
 

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I dont hold out a lot of hope for the boys, as its a small ground and they flood very well, and clog the game up

However we have some wins up there so you never know

The Swans came back at Brisbane in the last quarter, so they can run hard. I am not sure how fit our boys are, and barry hall will need to be shut down, as well as Goods, which is not any easy task.

They will have to play hard footy like last sunday to rattle them and open up the game I think to get over the line, and the forwards will have to take some marks as if it goes to ground it will be a messy one
 
macca23 said:
We've got a really tough one coming up this week.

Roos is the master of the super flood and at strangling the ability of teams to play the style of footy that we did yesterday.

They're a pretty good team in good nick just having beaten Brisbane and we have to travel to Sydney for the game.

I think it'll be an ugly scrappy game, and we'll start underdogs, and rightly so given the above.

Let's hope we can snare the 4 points. ;)
Well said.

This will not be a game that will reach any great heights as a spectacle. I expect it to be a tough, defensive slog and thats what you would expect against Sydney. I still cringe thinking about las't year's game at the SCG :eek:

Its a winnable game but a lot will depend on how players react after a huge win. They could either be over confident and hence come in switched off or it could give him them confidence to play well and win.

What ever we do we must stay away from the flanks on the SCG. We must use the corridor if we want to win. Going wide on SCG is a suicide.
 
One of the things I felt we lacked against Port was a forward line and my thoughts were we needed to score from outside 50 if we were to win..I felt we did that ok and I see the Sydney game as being something similar.

The SCG is a small ground so once we win from the middle it should be a basic handball and then shot on goal from outside 50. The flooders have to go deep to stop this and I dont think they have the time( unless they start there) . It should be a similar situation coming from the backline..I would like to see Goodwin and Thompson as designated kickers and as soon as they receive the ball in the middle to roost it into the goalsquare or even goal it.Cant flood a ball going over your head ;)
 
Well we have a good record in recent times against the Swans.

The key for us - when we win - has almost always been getting off to a fast start while they play catch-up for the rest of the afternoon.

I think we match up pretty well against Sydney. We've still got a superior midfield to them. Things look bright if we're even half as dominant at the stoppages as we were against Port.

Hall is their key tall, yet he's been one who Bassett has normally been able to contain. Rutten also did a reasonable job on him last year. And failing those two, there's still there's still Kenny "Tredrea killer" McGregor.

All that said though, if the match develops into a real slug-fest like last year, I'd expect them to take the points.
 
Sydney probably have the best half back flankers in the comp.
Leo Barry and Kennelly run hard off those back flanks and create a lot of run out of defence for them and in particular it is a very potent at the SCG.

Whoever plays on the half foward flanksill have to very attacking, but also defensive, by stopping or either nullfiying their run from defence. I think if we can contain their run from defence then we will go a long way to winning the game.

Maybe a Goodwin or a Thompson would be a very good fit to play on the flank this week. They have booming kicks and take a good mark.

I don't like seeing O'Loughlin back in this week, he always seems to play well against us.
 
I think you'll put up a good fight with the swannies especially after that win just beware of O'Loughlin and Hall good luck you will really need it
 
DaveW said:
Well we have a good record in recent times against the Swans.

The key for us - when we win - has almost always been getting off to a fast start while they play catch-up for the rest of the afternoon.

I think we match up pretty well against Sydney. We've still got a superior midfield to them. Things look bright if we're even half as dominant at the stoppages as we were against Port.

Hall is their key tall, yet he's been one who Bassett has normally been able to contain. Rutten also did a reasonable job on him last year. And failing those two, there's still there's still Kenny "Tredrea killer" McGregor.

All that said though, if the match develops into a real slug-fest like last year, I'd expect them to take the points.

Spot on Dave.

If we come out running & put them under score board pressure we are in with a 50/50 chance.
 
Stiffy_18 said:
Well said.

This will not be a game that will reach any great heights as a spectacle. I expect it to be a tough, defensive slog and thats what you would expect against Sydney. I still cringe thinking about las't year's game at the SCG :eek:

Its a winnable game but a lot will depend on how players react after a huge win. They could either be over confident and hence come in switched off or it could give him them confidence to play well and win.

What ever we do we must stay away from the flanks on the SCG. We must use the corridor if we want to win. Going wide on SCG is a suicide.

Spot on. If you want to win at the SCG, you need to get the ball out of the middle quickly and down to the forwards, hence there will be players everywhere trying to blanket the ball from coming out. It's going to be one of those games where you have to sit there and grind it out as a spectator. I would expect that 10-12 goals would win the game.

If we are committed enough and strong enough at the ball for the whole game, I believe our midfield can do the job, but Sydney are brilliant at destroying teams when they lose concentration for a few minutes. Both teams are coming off great wins that weren't expected, so it will also be a case of whoever gets their head together quickest. Too hard to pick, but I'd like to think that the guys will be focused enough to see that this would be a win that could set up the whole season beautifully-3 from 4, when many would have expected to be at maybe 1 from 4. These are the games we have to win to prove our mental toughness and concentration.
 

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I think we can do it. It is a very important game for us seeing as we should be able to manufacture a win over the Dogs next week.

Cmon Boys!
 
DaveW said:
Well we have a good record in recent times against the Swans.

The key for us - when we win - has almost always been getting off to a fast start while they play catch-up for the rest of the afternoon.

I think we match up pretty well against Sydney. We've still got a superior midfield to them. Things look bright if we're even half as dominant at the stoppages as we were against Port.

Hall is their key tall, yet he's been one who Bassett has normally been able to contain. Rutten also did a reasonable job on him last year. And failing those two, there's still there's still Kenny "Tredrea killer" McGregor.

All that said though, if the match develops into a real slug-fest like last year, I'd expect them to take the points.
Yeah, we have a good record in Sydney, so hopefully we can continue that trend.

Hall has rarely been a problem for us, as you mention both Rutten & Bassett have done the job. I would stick to the former & leave the Hound for O'Loughlin. Goodes could be their wild card. Can McGregor keep up with him?
 
Kane McGoodwin said:
Yeah, we have a good record in Sydney, so hopefully we can continue that trend.
We had a terrible record against Collingwood and Port and we reversed those; now we need to work out a way to keep up the performances against sides we play well against. We dont want to be moving towards the removal of one monkey only to have it replaced by another.
 
dA Crow said:
We had a terrible record against Collingwood and Port and we reversed those; now we need to work out a way to keep up the performances against sides we play well against. We dont want to be moving towards the removal of one monkey only to have it replaced by another.
I was thinking the same thing, but trying to stay positive.
 
Stiffy_18 said:
Well said.

This will not be a game that will reach any great heights as a spectacle. I expect it to be a tough, defensive slog and thats what you would expect against Sydney. I still cringe thinking about las't year's game at the SCG :eek:

Its a winnable game but a lot will depend on how players react after a huge win. They could either be over confident and hence come in switched off or it could give him them confidence to play well and win.

What ever we do we must stay away from the flanks on the SCG. We must use the corridor if we want to win. Going wide on SCG is a suicide.

Nail. Hammer. Head. ;)

We can't afford to lose concentration, which is renowned to come after a great win. Sydney are known to kill sides once they become ahead of themselves, and this is one risk we cannot afford to take.

If we start going by the cape, then I'll be seriously angry. Our run through the corridor on Sunday was fantastic and one of the key factors in our win. If we go via the hot dog stands this weekend, we'll be crucified.

In response to previous posts, I would stay with Rutten on Hall. Truck did a solid job on him last year, and given how much better Truck is now, should be able to negate him well. If Goodes plays in the forward line, McGregor should take him.

One of the big issues is our respect to Sydney's lesser likes. Guys like O'Keefe, Davis and O'Loughlin can kill teams if they are left unsupervised.

On the subject of respecting opponents, Shirley should take either Jude Bolton or Paul Williams. Both are attacking midfielders and both can rack up possessions and kick goals. I would sway towards Bolton being tagged by Shirley.

However I remain confident that we can win this game, albeit not with ease. Its going to be a real scrap, but we need to get off to a good start and retain this early score. If we don't, there's little worse than playing catch-up to Sydney all day. :eek:
 
Bockchoy67 said:
If we start going by the cape, then I'll be seriously angry. Our run through the corridor on Sunday was fantastic and one of the key factors in our win. If we go via the hot dog stands this weekend, we'll be crucified.

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Just a side point...anyone notice we went more direct with Brett ''run along the fence '' Burton having a week off? Cruel I know , but looking back it seems as if everytime BB gets the ball in the backline HIS first option is to take it wider. I am sure people more knowledgable will correct me if I am wrong.
 

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PerthCrow said:
Just a side point...anyone notice we went more direct with Brett ''run along the fence '' Burton having a week off? Cruel I know , but looking back it seems as if everytime BB gets the ball in the backline HIS first option is to take it wider. I am sure people more knowledgable will correct me if I am wrong.

I agree with you but apparently according to another thread I don't know anything so I wouldn't count on my support counting for much with half the people on here.

Apparently getting a lot of the football and squandering oppurtunities is good enough to be in the 22 so he is a definite inclusion and a quality player. Its got nothing to do with the pressure of AFL and not being up to it. Don't try and express an alternative opinion on someone.

You obviously know nothing.
 
This is going to be a cracker of a game, both teams will be full of confidence, AFC have a good record at the SCG.

Hall is there key and must be shut down, but O'loughlin can also be very dangerous. I would let Bassett have first crack at Hall if he gets a couple of quick goals put McGregor on him, let Torney or Rutten chase O'loughlin around.

We must win this game very important we keep building and gaining more and more confidence each week ;)
 
AdelaideFan said:
I agree with you but apparently according to another thread I don't know anything so I wouldn't count on my support counting for much with half the people on here.

Apparently getting a lot of the football and squandering oppurtunities is good enough to be in the 22 so he is a definite inclusion and a quality player. Its got nothing to do with the pressure of AFL and not being up to it. Don't try and express an alternative opinion on someone.

You obviously know nothing.
I actually like BB , I feel that someone with as much endeavour as him must be rewarded, on another thread in another galaxy I mentioned that after 6 years its partly not his fault when he disposes of the ball improperly, but that the coaching staff should work harder with him to make sure his turnovers etc should be minimised. Getting the ball 30 times is great, turning it over 22 times is not. Work on the disposal and he becomes an assett
 
PerthCrow said:
I actually like BB , I feel that someone with as much endeavour as him must be rewarded, on another thread in another galaxy I mentioned that after 6 years its partly not his fault when he disposes of the ball improperly, but that the coaching staff should work harder with him to make sure his turnovers etc should be minimised. Getting the ball 30 times is great, turning it over 22 times is not. Work on the disposal and he becomes an assett


Couldn't agree more feel he will get that through playing in the SANFL. He will not think it is easy for him to get a spot and know he has to perform. have re-iterated this in another galaxy.
 
lozstar said:
i was at that game... count yourself lucky you weren't.
badbadbadbadbad memories.

Thats nothing compared to the game in Rnd 20 1999 that I sat through at the SCG, think from memory that we got flogged by 120 pts and Lockett had an absolute feild day :( I think the AFC only managed four goals that day :(
 

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