Prediction Round 5, 2025: Changes vs Carlton

[jdisc]

Allen to kick 4 goals

 

[Seadog]

You're missing the point.

Try to work it out.

No I know exactly what your point is, I just don't agree with it.

 

[Cuzz09]

we will either win by 3 goals or loss by 70 points

yeah feels like it

 

[Scotland]

Pretty much. Same thing with Edwards I imagine.

Not playing to instruction, despite the fact they're not the worst players out there.

We never had that with Simpson, he'd just back these players into find form in the AFL side and wouldn't even consider dropping them back to WAFL if they weren't performing.

That would easily disenfranchise young blokes coming through, knowing you have to wait for an underperforming senior to get injured to have a crack at their role, otherwise you're on the dead wing/flank rotisserie with other fringe players, never playing to your strengths.

True, though in recent years when we had barely a handful of listed players in the WAFL it made it harder. I think Gaff knew his papers were stamped when he fell out of the side, but he didn't fall off in 2024, his output dropped over a couple of years and he was never really under any pressure. With Kelly I'm glad McQualter has made the call early on so we can see how he responds. He's not even 31 yet and capable of playing good footy for a few more years. Travis Boak looked like he was being phased out at age 30 then had a made the AA side at 32 and he's still playing at 37. Kane Cornes was dropped on his head as a baby at 28 then went on to play four more years.

Someone like Tom Gross coming in and not looking out of place puts pressure on senior players. It's easy to justify giving Noah Long a spell when he can't get involved in the game but if a first gamer is going to get 17 touches 6 clearances and has the confidence to kick goals from outside 50 you gotta keep him in.

I am glad to see Maric playing a role that uses his strengths. Was the sub 5 times last year and I was filthy when he got that role again in Rd 1. Hopefully we're done with that now.

 

[Mulldogg]

Who’s at the airport(s)?

AFL reinforcements PER->ADL
WAFL reinforcements ADL->PER

 

[bzparkes]

Allen to kick 4 goals if he is played forward and Harley to star in the midfield.

 

[WCE777]

True, though in recent years when we had barely a handful of listed players in the WAFL it made it harder. I think Gaff knew his papers were stamped when he fell out of the side, but he didn't fall off in 2024, his output dropped over a couple of years and he was never really under any pressure. With Kelly I'm glad McQualter has made the call early on so we can see how he responds. He's not even 31 yet and capable of playing good footy for a few more years. Travis Boak looked like he was being phased out at age 30 then had a made the AA side at 32 and he's still playing at 37. Kane Cornes was dropped on his head as a baby at 28 then went on to play four more years.

Someone like Tom Gross coming in and not looking out of place puts pressure on senior players. It's easy to justify giving Noah Long a spell when he can't get involved in the game but if a first gamer is going to get 17 touches 6 clearances and has the confidence to kick goals from outside 50 you gotta keep him in.

I am glad to see Maric playing a role that uses his strengths. Was the sub 5 times last year and I was filthy when he got that role again in Rd 1. Hopefully we're done with that now.

all of this

 

[bzparkes]

True, though in recent years when we had barely a handful of listed players in the WAFL it made it harder. I think Gaff knew his papers were stamped when he fell out of the side, but he didn't fall off in 2024, his output dropped over a couple of years and he was never really under any pressure. With Kelly I'm glad McQualter has made the call early on so we can see how he responds. He's not even 31 yet and capable of playing good footy for a few more years. Travis Boak looked like he was being phased out at age 30 then had a made the AA side at 32 and he's still playing at 37. Kane Cornes was dropped on his head as a baby at 28 then went on to play four more years.

Someone like Tom Gross coming in and not looking out of place puts pressure on senior players. It's easy to justify giving Noah Long a spell when he can't get involved in the game but if a first gamer is going to get 17 touches 6 clearances and has the confidence to kick goals from outside 50 you gotta keep him in.

I am glad to see Maric playing a role that uses his strengths. Was the sub 5 times last year and I was filthy when he got that role again in Rd 1. Hopefully we're done with that now.

Yep, looks like Mini's not afraid to make changes and stick to them when they work.

Probably the most frustrating thing about Simmo towards the end. Would be forced to make a change, it'd work, then he'd just go back to the same old shit.

2021 second half probably the best example of this. Played the kids and new players in the side for the first half and looked great. Seniors came back underdone in the second half and it all went to shit and never recovered.

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Predicting Carlton to flat track us, Curnow 6 goals.

Paper over the cracks they've got.

 

[hudson2006]

With Waterman and Ryan in, our scoring efficiency should improve, which gives us a chance.

But the expectation is our midfield made up of defenders and teenagers will be monstered.

As will be the case all this year, any loss under 10 goals is a positive.

Green shoots, green shoots… please defy the trend Grossy

 

[Cuzz09]

Yeah gotta stick with yoof.

Every time we had a win or played decent with kids under Simmo he'd bring back lazy pensioners and we'd get flogged.

We'll be bad still with kids but we need progress.... and hope

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Who’s at the airport(s)?

AFL reinforcements PER->ADL
WAFL reinforcements ADL->PER

 

[Cuzz09]

Oooh another senior?

Hunt?

 

[squashface]

Pls be Blowies, pls be Blowies

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Oooh another senior?

Hunt?

I think Lachie’s just doing some basic sums. Three new guys have flown over, only two have been dropped, therefore there’s a third to come.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

I'm ok with Brockman dropped. As said ad nauseum, you can't carry all of Cripps, Owies, Long.

Cripps, Hunt or Cole would be nervous if another senior player is dropped

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Pls be Blowies, pls be Blowies

We aren't dropping the small forward we bought to the club on a mutli year contract. He's also capable of kicking goals if we ever got the ball forward.

We should never have made a move for him in the first place.

 

[Cuzz09]

Owies... against the team that didn't want him!!

 

[Cuzz09]

Rather Long out TBH

 

[King LeBron]

My prediction

Out: Kelly, Brockman, Long, Davis
In: Waterman, Ryan, Hutchinson, Edwards

 

[Chris_6678]

Mitchell Woodcock

@Mitch_Woodcock
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Noah Long didn't train today. Brockman also not travelling as per
@Lachy_Reid
report. Kelly dropped. Ryan and Cripps coming to Adelaide. Plenty of changes for the Eagles with Hutchinson and Waterman into the side. #AFL

Long might be out either way.

 

[quackish]

Brockman would be the last guy out of owies, long and himself I would’ve dropped. But I guess I’m not an AFL coach for a reason

 

[Hook461123]

Does this mean that Long is the luckiest player in the AFL? How he has played 4 games with no output amazes me. I was talking him up preseason but he really should be dropped.

Wonder if Cole is the other senior player. Was awful last week.

Out: Kelly, Brockman, Long, Cole
In: Waterman, Ryan, Hutch, HJ

Allen will have to play back otherwise Edwards comes in and we will have to drop JWill after he was one of the better forwards last week. We can't play a forward pressure game with 4 tall forwards unless we drop Bailey and AReid / Jwill share ruck duties.

Think they would've announced a debut for Grego or Allan if they were playing.

 

[Grahame]

This is not celebration. Going in with such an inexpirenced midfielder is a damning assessment of our previous recruitment and list management team.

 

[kokedoodledoo]

Brockman would be the last guy out of owies, long and himself I would’ve dropped. But I guess I’m not an AFL coach for a reason

Agreed. He has had a lot of almost moments.