Rumour Rumors of cat player in big trouble

[callmeX]

No, I’m just someone who knows so much more about the law than you.

And this ‘pensioner’ has noticed you corrected your post.

I can also spot a ‘cardboard cut out of a hero’ when I see one.

You were schooled
The statement was liable through its insinuation

Did said pensioner notice his grammatically inferior post

 

[Angus Young]

Imagine, if you will, this exact scenario.

2 young athletes attend a "gentleman's club".
these same young athletes make a proposal to an entertainer for sexual favours that involve money, whilst said entertainer is leaving venue.
the entertainer declines but has trouble convincing athletes that she in not interested.
athletes proceed with their original intention anyway until screaming alerts another independent male.
the assault stops, athletes depart and police are called.
witness statements are given by victim and independent witness who attended scene.
investigations ensue and charges laid.
12 months on, charges are dropped after independent male witness admits he lied to police during witness statement, that HE himself was assaulted by athletes when he intervened in the original assault on female entertainer.

charges dropped based purely on the fact that the male witness lied about being assaulted, thus the case is dismissed purely on that reason alone.

now imagine a court stenographer, who has had front row access to this entire scenario and has absolutely no doubt, based on prosecution evidence and access to witness testimonies, medical evidence and defendant statements, that a technicality derailed the prosecution.

make no mistake, the athletes are innocent of assaulting the male witness only, and only that charge

Good read.

Seems like a good night out.

 

[Generalissimo]

Imagine, if you will, this exact scenario.

2 young athletes attend a "gentleman's club".
these same young athletes make a proposal to an entertainer for sexual favours that involve money, whilst said entertainer is leaving venue.
the entertainer declines but has trouble convincing athletes that she in not interested.
athletes proceed with their original intention anyway until screaming alerts another independent male.
the assault stops, athletes depart and police are called.
witness statements are given by victim and independent witness who attended scene.
investigations ensue and charges laid.
12 months on, charges are dropped after independent male witness admits he lied to police during witness statement, that HE himself was assaulted by athletes when he intervened in the original assault on female entertainer.

charges dropped based purely on the fact that the male witness lied about being assaulted, thus the case is dismissed purely on that reason alone.

now imagine a court stenographer, who has had front row access to this entire scenario and has absolutely no doubt, based on prosecution evidence and access to witness testimonies, medical evidence and defendant statements, that a technicality derailed the prosecution.

make no mistake, the athletes are innocent of assaulting the male witness only, and only that charge

I'd say that John Grisham writes better courtroom fiction than you do.

 

[Freddy Swift]

You were schooled
The statement was liable through its insuniation

Did said pensioner notice his grammatically inferior post

Insuniation or insinuation?

 

[Dan Moody]

Nice story

100% fact

 

[The Blue Max]

You were schooled
The statement was liable through its insuniation

Did said pensioner notice his grammatically inferior post

insuniation? Is that like being left out in the sun?

 

[STPer18]

Imagine, if you will, this exact scenario.

2 young athletes attend a "gentleman's club".
these same young athletes make a proposal to an entertainer for sexual favours that involve money, whilst said entertainer is leaving venue.
the entertainer declines but has trouble convincing athletes that she in not interested.
athletes proceed with their original intention anyway until screaming alerts another independent male.
the assault stops, athletes depart and police are called.
witness statements are given by victim and independent witness who attended scene.
investigations ensue and charges laid.
12 months on, charges are dropped after independent male witness admits he lied to police during witness statement, that HE himself was assaulted by athletes when he intervened in the original assault on female entertainer.

charges dropped based purely on the fact that the male witness lied about being assaulted, thus the case is dismissed purely on that reason alone.

now imagine a court stenographer, who has had front row access to this entire scenario and has absolutely no doubt, based on prosecution evidence and access to witness testimonies, medical evidence and defendant statements, that a technicality derailed the prosecution.

make no mistake, the athletes are innocent of assaulting the male witness only, and only that charge

Why did you lie under oath, Mr. Martin?

 

[Dan Moody]

Why did you lie under oath, Mr. Martin?

No skin in the game, and was convinced about his innocence up until I heard yesterday.
Now I have no doubt at all he is innocent of assault against the male witness but not of the original charge

 

[callmeX]

can collingwood supporters tell us a bit about their small forwards small appendage

 

[Biscut]

No skin in the game, and was convinced about his innocence up until I heard yesterday.
Now I have no doubt at all he is innocent of assault against the male witness but not of the original charge

So you straight up calling Tanner and his mate a rapist. That’s on record. What’s not is what you heard yesterday. Please enlighten us?

 

[Grumpyshades]

tell me again we don't live a blatantly misandrist culture

 

[Dan Moody]

So you straight up calling Tanner and his mate a rapist. That’s on record. What’s not is what you heard yesterday. Please enlighten us?

no dickhead, nowhere did I "straight up" call him anything.
I stated the facts as told to me by someone who was present and stated that he was found innocent of assault on a male witness who lied. I also stated that he was not found innocent of the original charge of assault.

 

[Dan Moody]

can collingwood supporters tell us a bit about their small forwards small appendage

only if you can share the details behind Stengle's "exhaustion" last year

 

[Sentinel]

he was found innocent of assault on a male witness who lied. I also stated that he was not found innocent of the original charge of assault.

This is not at all how it works.

 

[Ricketz]

This thread is full of the same bullshit the courts and parliament are full of.
1. Labour has appointed most of 5he judges on the bench at the moment
2. Opp prefers to take matters involving sexual assault to court than make the decision themselves
3. Cops are as corrupt as everyone else
4. Yes tanner should have been home asleep etc etc, but he is not the first person to go to the strippers
5. George pell was convicted eaven though the witness lied about the wine, and other details.
6. Society is too woke and wanting to prosecute.
7. By the way why did the honest police hold back phone evidence from the defence and get reprimanded by the judge

Just awaiting for the lass to be charged with drink driving, a crime she confessed to.

You don't have to work for them to know how they work. Have a look at what is happening with friendlyjordies, or Michael Agzarian right now.

 

[Ricketz]

This thread is full of the same bullshit the courts and parliament are full of.
1. Labour has appointed most of 5he judges on the bench at the moment
2. Opp prefers to take matters involving sexual assault to court than make the decision themselves
3. Cops are as corrupt as everyone else
4. Yes tanner should have been home asleep etc etc, but he is not the first person to go to the strippers
5. George pell was convicted eaven though the witness lied about the wine, and other details.
6. Society is too woke and wanting to prosecute.
7. By the way why did the honest police hold back phone evidence from the defence and get reprimanded by the judge

Just awaiting for the lass to be charged with drink driving, a crime she confessed to.

You're defending Pell? Scumbag of the highest order who DID cover up CSA.

 

[Dan Moody]

This is not at all how it works.

yes it is

 

[Generalissimo]

Ah yes, the "I heard it from a bloke at the pub" school of evidence.

 

[Sentinel]

yes it is

Not even close.

You don't get "found innocent" of anything. You're innocent by default, until proven guilty.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Unfortunately, we put a lot of trust in the police to get these things right.

I'll admit to making a few jokes at Tanner's expense, poking light at the severity of the alleged finger injury and getting frustrated with Geelong's injury reporting / reporting generally in connection with the issue, whether in this thread directly (i'm not sure) or to friends in person, but those were on the assumption of guilt or at least some level of indiscretion (even if not guilt of serious crimes such as r*pe) based on a misplaced trust in the morality of the (alleged, now proven to be lying) victim and trust in the police to prosecute and pursue genuine charges, as well as out of a desire to "believe women" as the saying goes.

That was wrong, and I feel sorry that Tanner had to go through this. Moving forward, we need to be conscious to maintain the assumption of innocence until proven guilty, we need less faith in the competency of police, and (unfortunately) we need to believe less women (at least unequivocally, immediately, and without evidence / findings). A terrible result all round.

 

[GWT6]

Ah yes, the "I heard it from a bloke at the pub" school of evidence.

Ah yes, the "someone on the internet said mean things about a player from my team, so I must blindly defend them" school of bigfooty nuff.

 

[The_Reaper]

Can we change the name of the thread to something like Tanner Bruhn found innocent?

Given his name has been dragged through the mud seems like it would be nice for some public acknowledgment of his innocence

 

[Sentinel]

Can we change the name of the thread to something like Tanner Bruhn found innocent?

Given his name has been dragged through the mud seems like it would be nice for some public acknowledgment of his innocence

Tanner Bruhn hasn't been found innocent of anything.

 

[Sttew]

Tanner Bruhn hasn't been found innocent of anything.

Technically he has. Presumption of innocence until proven guilty. There is no case against him which means he remains innocent. Simple. No buts

 

[Sentinel]

Technically he has. Presumption of innocence until proven guilty. There is no case against him which means he remains innocent. Simple. No buts

Technically he was always presumed innocent and remains so, unless a court were to prove he committed the crime beyond a reasonable doubt. He wasn't "found" innocent by the case being thrown out - a court case is used to determine guilt, not innocence.