Coach Rutten sacked - no, really this time. Could the Dodo face extinction too? 🙏🙏

[boncer34]

Chris Scott was younger.
That's one example and was 11 years ago.

Adam Simpson would be close.

 

[Del191229]

This a bombers board not renowned for good decision making skills.

As if the Bomber board/org would have kept it secret for months that they actually had Clarko but were secretly letting him meet with GWS and North on multiple occasions just as cover for when they sacked Rutten (which there's no proof they actually have yet) today.

LOL.

 

[windyhill]

dodoro, ultimate survivor

 

[Dazb86]

Would actually feel bad for North fans if Clarko went to Essendon and JHF walked.

 

[Truckosaurus]

So what they actually said was "We're backing over Truck."

 

[Bluelegs]

It's fascinating that the collective football world has decided that you need four centuries to work out if a coach is sh*t or not.

In this world, there are only Damian Hardwicks who will deliver premierships given enough time and no Mark Neelds. Somehow Truck is some innocent bystander who has nothing to do with how poor Essendon are.

Essendon's list may not be perfect but it's stocked full of early draft picks and there is plenty of talent there. There is no excuse for how rubbish they have been this year.

Clubs just sometimes need to cut their losses early and not throw good money after bad just hoping the guy will turn it around.

Essendon were broadly projected to finish bottom 4 last year and expected to endure long term pain as they were in the middle of a rebuild. Rutten got a young list to a finals series in his first season. They overachieved and couldn't back it up, this is not uncommon. To make a call to sack Rutten now looks incredibly hasty and shortsighted.

If Collingwood had a season next year similar to what Essendon has had this year would you make the same argument about Craig McCrae?

 

[QuietB]

My post got deleted for trolling, when I was serious. Is it not a fair point that this tumult is part of the legacy of drugs saga - a club doesn't recover from a crisis like that quickly? Like the infamous post-season camp taken by the Crows. It leaves scars.

The board, the administration and many of the fans did not fully reckon with and take responsibility for the doping scandal. Many still believe that nothing was awry and they were in fact victims. Not all, but many.

That needs to be dealt with, acknowledged, accepted, and owned, before the club can truely move forward.

I'm a management consultant who specialises in organisational culture from a board level down, if this is trolling then I guess my 40 year career has also been trolling, thank you moderators.

Will this increased chaos finally lead to stability? IMO, not without some self-reflection from the senior leaders who were around and therefore party-to the aforementioned disaster whose stench still fills the halls of Avalon.

Essendon are more likely to reappoint Hird than do what you have outlined.

 

[Tasmanian saint]

Essendon's list may be slightly better but the club is a mess, at least North made a decision on the coach earlier, who sacks a coach with one round to go?

I would say it got leaked to the media early . Otherwise why the **** wouldn’t you wait one week til the season ends extremely unprofessional either way

 

[WillHayward]

As if the Bomber board/org would have kept it secret for months that they actually had Clarko but were secretly letting him meet with GWS and North on multiple occasions just as cover for when they sacked Rutten (which there's no proof they actually have yet) today.

LOL.

I'd be surprised if the Bombers board can walk and chew gum at the same time.

 

[Dave]

Dodo is like Castro seeing off US presidents

Sheedy
Knights
Hird
Thompson
Hird (does he count twice?)
Worsfold
Rutten

So 3, or 4 to go depending on whether Hird counts twice.

 

[hawkman]

I would say it got leaked to the media early . Otherwise why the * wouldn’t you wait one week til the season ends extremely unprofessional either way

Clarkson was likely to sign with North this week

 

[Del191229]

Would actually feel bad for North fans if Clarko went to Essendon and JHF walked.

Rest assured you won't need to cut up any onions any time soon.

 

[troybe]

Just what Essendon need at the club are more flags not flogs

 

[evo]

That's poor from Essendon if true, he helped built the Dees premiership team together.

Makes you wonder what kind of dirt Dodoro has on the power brokers at Essendon if he survives this cull

Dan Richardson was a big part of building the Tigers premiership list, but Adrian has already seen him off.

No reason Mahoney is any different.

 

[Chism]

They have lots of average 1st rounders just because they were picked high doesn't mean they're any good now

This is true and OBrien and Dow were both top 10 picks for us that are useless.

 

[Tasmanian saint]

Clarkson was likely to sign with North this week

Even if they have clarko signed then you still wait a week to announce it

 

[Del191229]

I'd be surprised if the Bombers board can walk and chew gum at the same time.

Which is more likely:

Essendon have conducted a super secret black ops mission to negotiate with Clarko - off site premises for sure - over months just in case they get a random flogging at the end of the season and decide to sack Rutten, and have kept this all secret up until now, whereupon crack investigative newshound Damien Tardio has uncovered their dastardly scheme?

OR

Essendon are a rabble who have overreacted to a bad loss because they massively overrated their list, and various late Roman Empire style competing cotorie powerbases are now having the mother of all shitfights over who gets to run the show now, and they all deserve it because of the money they tipped in to pay the suspended players out eight years ago? And journos are going Get Clarko to generate clicks?

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

I'd be surprised if the Bombers board can walk and chew gum at the same time.

No one actually knows who is calling the shots at EFC now, that's part of the problem.

The coterie businessmen and millionaire benefactors behind the scenes seem to be pulling the strings of Rutten's sacking/Clarko's probable appointment.

This reminds of Pagan to Carlton all over again (the way it has been messily handled in the public)

 

[fpm84]

Has any media run with the sacking apart from Neil Mitchell?

 

[Arctic fox]

It was all smiles when they defeated St.Kilda, Sydney, Brisbane, Gold Coast and should have beaten Collingwood.
Rutten was under Hardwick for a while so should know game plans, strategies etc and I really think EFC should get a sports psychologist like Richmond did in
I think 2016. Footy plated 90% above the shoulders they say.

 

[Linda Lovelace]

They have lots of average 1st rounders just because they were picked high doesn't mean they're any good now

Craig McRae has managed to get respectable football out of a list which was found in a dumpster behind an abandoned potato farm.

There is plenty to work with at Essendon for a good coach.

 

[Bluelegs]

Has any media run with the sacking apart from Neil Mitchell?

They're all reporting it and pointing at him while they do it.

 

[Foxman98]

This is true and OBrien and Dow were both top 10 picks for us that are useless.

McGrath and Walsh were taken at the same pick yet comparing them is laughable this stigma around where you were picked compared to their output is a real issue

 

[freddy mercury]

Would actually feel bad for North fans if Clarko went to Essendon and JHF walked.

Their small irrelevant football club would be torn apart.

If I was him I wouldn't waste my time with either side, go to the Giants my friend.

 

[Bluelegs]

Craig McRae has managed to get respectable football out of a list which was found in a dumpster behind an abandoned potato farm.

There is plenty to work with at Essendon for a good coach.

So you would take Essendon's list over Collingwood's right now?