Skippos's Final 2014 Phantom Draft

[krakouers]

Shannon Taylor skippos, do you think he could get drafted?

Clem Smith, where will he end up?

 

[Skippos]

Shannon Taylor skippos, do you think he could get drafted?

Clem Smith, where will he end up?

I haven't heard anything to indicate Taylor will go in the main draft; if he is to be drafted I'd expect it to be rookie. I certainly haven't been particularly enamored by the limited VFL footage I've seen of him.

Smith I'm hearing strong links to both WA clubs and the Dogs for. I think Fremantle and West Coast are both strong chances to pounce in the early 30s, and if not I think the Dogs might have a look with 39 or their mid 40s picks.

 

[krakouers]

I haven't heard anything to indicate Taylor will go in the main draft; if he is to be drafted I'd expect it to be rookie. I certainly haven't been particularly enamored by the limited VFL footage I've seen of him.

Smith I'm hearing strong links to both WA clubs and the Dogs for. I think Fremantle and West Coast are both strong chances to pounce in the early 30s, and if not I think the Dogs might have a look with 39 or their mid 40s picks.

One more:

Aiden Anderson?

 

[Skippos]

One more:

Aiden Anderson?

I haven't heard any links but that's not to say he won't be drafted. Rookie at the absolute worst, but I'd be surprised if he didn't go 40-70 tomorrow night. Really nice player.

 

[krakouers]

Thanks Skippos

 

[lunacy]

Sorry if you've been asked, but have you heard that Crows want Reece McKenzie?
Any chance Maynard slides to 35 and McKenzie 43?

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

Thanks for all the work you've put in (including that on your second home, the Dogs board) over the year Skippos, have enjoyed the read.

Just out of curiosity: what/who do you want out of the draft tonight for the Crows?

 

[DrTomSwift]

If Weller is there at 12 we will take him ahead of Ellis

Yeah?

 

[Skippos]

Thanks for all the work you've put in (including that on your second home, the Dogs board) over the year Skippos, have enjoyed the read.

Just out of curiosity: what/who do you want out of the draft tonight for the Crows?

Thanks for the kind words. Lever was what I wanted - I'm really happy we got him. Wigg and McGovern I'm far from sold on and Dear I don't mind but probably would have selected McKenzie; I'm surprised we didn't.

Thanks for the reading this year fellas - it's certainly shown I've got a long way to come in terms of phantom drafting with only Only McCartin, Brayshaw, Petracca, Pickett, De Goey, Ahern, Ellis, Lever, McKenzie, Lonie, Watts, Deluca and Drummond hits. Only time will tell regarding the strength of my profiles.

 

[Skippos]

Sorry if you've been asked, but have you heard that Crows want Reece McKenzie?
Any chance Maynard slides to 35 and McKenzie 43?

I had heard it but I was very clearly wrong.

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

Thanks for the kind words. Lever was what I wanted - I'm really happy we got him. Wigg and McGovern I'm far from sold on and Dear I don't mind but probably would have selected McKenzie; I'm surprised we didn't.

Thanks for the reading this year fellas - it's certainly shown I've got a long way to come in terms of phantom drafting with only Only McCartin, Brayshaw, Petracca, Pickett, De Goey, Ahern, Ellis, Lever, McKenzie, Lonie, Watts, Deluca and Drummond hits. Only time will tell regarding the strength of my profiles.

Was a little surprised to see McGovern go so early to be honest. I do like him though.

How'd you view the Dogs' haul? Went surprisingly small but I'm relatively pleased - lots of excellent decision makers. I'm not sold on Hamilton and wouldn't have selected Daniel but overall pretty happy.

 

[Skippos]

Was a little surprised to see McGovern go so early to be honest. I do like him though.

How'd you view the Dogs' haul? Went surprisingly small but I'm relatively pleased - lots of excellent decision makers. I'm not sold on Hamilton and wouldn't have selected Daniel but overall pretty happy.

I think it's a tactically strong draft and a draft indicative of a list who believes they're a real shot at making it. Webb, McLean, Hamilton, Daniel and Dale -it's interesting. It's clear Dalrymple identified outside skill and creativity as a weakness. I'm surprised you didn't go for more speed - with Hamilton being someone I'd compared to a smaller and less productive Jackson MacRae - a comparison I still don't mind. Webb too while a lovely kick isn't quick. Makes me think that outside mid bridgade might lack a little pace. That said - the skill was clearly an area you've identified and between Webb and Hamilton one should get there. Dale is a risk but I could see him complimenting Dahlhaus a little in that quick, energetic and creative half forward on the other flank. McLean's more of a known quantity - creative.

Hamilton is a jet. His highlights aren't too flash but he's got it. Distribution by hand elite, smarts elite, creativity elite, vision elite, spacial awareness elite, composure excellent, versatility good, scope for an inside game. Just a little shaky by foot at times and doesn't accumulate like crazy which can be fixed. He's a good player.

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

I think it's a tactically strong draft and a draft indicative of a list who believes they're a real shot at making it. Webb, McLean, Hamilton, Daniel and Dale -it's interesting. It's clear Dalrymple identified outside skill and creativity as a weakness. I'm surprised you didn't go for more speed - with Hamilton being someone I'd compared to a smaller and less productive Jackson MacRae - a comparison I still don't mind. Webb too while a lovely kick isn't quick. Makes me think that outside mid bridgade might lack a little pace. That said - the skill was clearly an area you've identified and between Webb and Hamilton one should get there. Dale is a risk but I could see him complimenting Dahlhaus a little in that quick, energetic and creative half forward on the other flank. McLean's more of a known quantity - creative.

Hamilton is a jet. His highlights aren't too flash but he's got it. Distribution by hand elite, smarts elite, creativity elite, vision elite, spacial awareness elite, composure excellent, versatility good, scope for an inside game. Just a little shaky by foot at times and doesn't accumulate like crazy which can be fixed. He's a good player.

Thanks, some food for thought there.

The only other real concern I have is that they all seem to be fighting for similar positions in the side. Daniel aside, all have impressed me most in the forward line. McLean may well make the transition but I love his work around goal. Hamilton seems to enjoy playing as a high half-forward. Webb's best footy, to my eye, comes when he plays a similar role, presenting around half-forward and identifying targets up forward. Dale is very much a forward. With Dahlhaus (you'd imagine) already a lock for a spot in the forward line I'd question how many of these guys just end up depth in the same position. How many of them do you see realistically transitioning their game elsewhere?

 

[Skippos]

Thanks, some food for thought there.

The only other real concern I have is that they all seem to be fighting for similar positions in the side. Daniel aside, all have impressed me most in the forward line. McLean may well make the transition but I love his work around goal. Hamilton seems to enjoy playing as a high half-forward. Webb's best footy, to my eye, comes when he plays a similar role, presenting around half-forward and identifying targets up forward. Dale is very much a forward. With Dahlhaus (you'd imagine) already a lock for a spot in the forward line I'd question how many of these guys just end up depth in the same position. How many of them do you see realistically transitioning their game elsewhere?

I believe there's a strong chance one of Dale, Hamilton and Webb make it as a full time mid. I think 2 of those will make the grade - my feel is you identified it as a need and overloaded, hoping for one or two hits and being okay with a miss.

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

I believe there's a strong chance one of Dale, Hamilton and Webb make it as a full time mid. I think 2 of those will make the grade - my feel is you identified it as a need and overloaded, hoping for one or two hits and being okay with a miss.

Thanks again, always enjoy reading your thoughts.

How'd you feel as the names flashed up for the Giants? Still not really sure what's going on there. Marchbank at 6 was weird enough but nearly fell off my chair when they took McKenna at 23.

 

[Skippos]

Thanks again, always enjoy reading your thoughts.

How'd you feel as the names flashed up for the Giants? Still not really sure what's going on there. Marchbank at 6 was weird enough but nearly fell off my chair when they took McKenna at 23.

I heard word that the only reason McKenna nominated is that he was assured of a spot by one club if he did. Clearly it was GWS. They're in a list position where they can target upside at all costs and take these risks. I think if they'd decided 23 was their last pick they were just gonna use it on him.

 

[Turbocat]

Skippos , can you give me your post draft appraisal of the SA boys the Cats picked up , Gregson and Gore. Gregson small but looks competitive , Gore has a few happy but Im not sure about him as the vid of him is rather uninspiring. Both Post 40 , so hardly big cost players.

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

I heard word that the only reason McKenna nominated is that he was assured of a spot by one club if he did. Clearly it was GWS. They're in a list position where they can target upside at all costs and take these risks. I think if they'd decided 23 was their last pick they were just gonna use it on him.

That's interesting - I'd heard that we were interested but only with a late or rookie pick. Personally find it a little bizarre but I suppose you can afford to be a bit unconventional when you've had an endless supply of first rounders.

 

[Skippos]

Skippos , can you give me your post draft appraisal of the SA boys the Cats picked up , Gregson and Gore. Gregson small but looks competitive , Gore has a few happy but Im not sure about him as the vid of him is rather uninspiring. Both Post 40 , so hardly big cost players.

Gregson will leave it all on the field. Hard working and spirited young player - has a good inside game but also some really impressive speed and reasonable skill outside. He's someone I've liked all year without becoming too hot on; I didn't expect him to go that high but I do think he presents good value. I can't help but think that if he was a TAC cup player he'd have been considered in the same vein as Touk Miller or even higher. There's not much he does that Gregson can't.

Gore presents tremendous value with his mix of inside and outside solid as is his experience at senior level and ready made body. Great speed for a bulkier bloke too. Someone who I think could impact next year immediately. Poor man's Caddy without the aerial presence in a lot of ways.

Both good value selections.

 

[Skippos]

That's interesting - I'd heard that we were interested but only with a late or rookie pick. Personally find it a little bizarre but I suppose you can afford to be a bit unconventional when you've had an endless supply of first rounders.

Exactly. It was by that token that I was surprised they didn't target Nakia Cockatoo early too. Their list is already gonna be elite so the aim should be to bring in potential elites as opposed to likely goods

 

[x_les_x]

Hey skip well done on your phantom as always, just a question which player does Frampton resemble? Posters from our board says he has poor tap work for a ruckman which is pretty strange but he is good around the ground

 

[Skippos]

Hey skip well done on your phantom as always, just a question which player does Frampton resemble? Posters from our board says he has poor tap work for a ruckman which is pretty strange but he is good around the ground

My comparison for him on the opening page is Jordan Roughead and I'm going to stick with it. His tap work to me is not dissimilar to those 2 metre blokes not playing through the ruck who have average tap work - Jordan Roughead is a good example of that. Sam Rowe when played in the ruck maybe. I can't think of a good comparison for him, really. I'd have been picking Frampton with the sole intention of converting him into a key defender and I'm not sure that's what you guys have done. If you have though - it's a top effort; I think he could really make the grade as a defender.

 

[grundog49]

Thanks for the kind words. Lever was what I wanted - I'm really happy we got him. Wigg and McGovern I'm far from sold on and Dear I don't mind but probably would have selected McKenzie; I'm surprised we didn't.

Thanks for the reading this year fellas - it's certainly shown I've got a long way to come in terms of phantom drafting with only Only McCartin, Brayshaw, Petracca, Pickett, De Goey, Ahern, Ellis, Lever, McKenzie, Lonie, Watts, Deluca and Drummond hits. Only time will tell regarding the strength of my profiles.

Mitch McGovern seems like a Jack Gunston type with his athletic capabilities and the way he plays. Who would you compare him to?

Harry dear is our project ruck/forward who could learn of Jacobs, Jenkins and Lowden and become a player some what like a poor man's Tom Hawkins. What is your comparison for harry dear?

Harrision wigg is in the Sam Mitchell mold and has foot skill like him but without the inside talent. What is your comparison for Harrison wigg?

 

[Skippos]

Mitch McGovern seems like a Jack Gunston type with his athletic capabilities and the way he plays. Who would you compare him to?

Harry dear is our project ruck/forward who could learn of Jacobs, Jenkins and Lowden and become a player some what like a poor man's Tom Hawkins. What is your comparison for harry dear?

Harrision wigg is in the Sam Mitchell mold and has foot skill like him but without the inside talent. What is your comparison for Harrison wigg?

Jack Gunston is a considerably smarter forward. I haven't seen a huge amount of Mitch - but from what I have seen I'd almost look at him as a 6'3 version of a poor man's Justin Westhoff with his ability to leap and pluck without crashing packs and the way he roams and can intercept down back. He is a lot like a smaller Jeremy, too.

Harry Dear gives options. I'm not sure he's ever gonna be a full time ruck but he showed enough glimpses to indicate he was draftable. I'm mortified we picked him over Reece McKenzie though. As a forward he's got a good mix of athleticism and power. I certainly preferred him to the more favoured Cripps types. I'd like to see if he'd go well down back as he's got a nice mix to indicate he might. A slightly smaller poor man's Charlie Dixon would be my comparison.

Wigg can kick I agree but has zero inside game. His outside game isn't flash either - he is literally sought out at junior level due to his boot - players look for him. Unlike a lot of outside receivers who while I agree are seagulls, work to find the outside receive, Wigg is fed the ball wide instead of working into a position to receive the ball. I don't feel his running patterns are strong nor is his ability to accumulate which I'd want out of someone with his boot. I won't get started about his defensive qualities. My comparison for him would be a Sam Colquhoun or poor man's Nick Suban.

 

[MightyDons4]

Mitch McGovern seems like a Jack Gunston type with his athletic capabilities and the way he plays. Who would you compare him to?

Harry dear is our project ruck/forward who could learn of Jacobs, Jenkins and Lowden and become a player some what like a poor man's Tom Hawkins. What is your comparison for harry dear?

Harrision wigg is in the Sam Mitchell mold and has foot skill like him but without the inside talent. What is your comparison for Harrison wigg?

Sheesh! You are setting your expectations WAY too high. I like McGovern as a 2nd/3rd tall swingman with his leap and marking ability and will probably be a solid contributor. Dear doesn't dominate in the ruck or down forward and I can't see him becoming anything more than a reserve ruck. Wing has an irresistible boot, however I'm not a fan of his workrate to get the ball and feel he waits for others to give him it so he can use his boot. If he can work on getting into better positions he will be a very good back flanker/winger. Jake Lever is a star in the making if he can stay injury free. Talia Lever Jenkins Walker will be a very nice spine for years to come.