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So who is the most underrated player in the AFL?

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Matthew Pavlich still doesn't get the recognition he deserves through out his career in my opinion, he is just a dead set superstar.
Pavlich runs rings around Lance Franklin.
 
Tom Rockliff is dangerously underrated. If he was in Victoria he would be known as one of the best players going around. Superstar.
 
I think everyone is watching Sheuy closely to see if he'll make the leap from talented but not quite top class to that top class level. Masten last year and this year has really made it to that quality but not super star level. Same with Scott Selwood. Even Priddis when he's in top form they are all around that discussion for top 50 and AA squad level but the watch is on Shuey.

Does have similar qualities to Dangerfield, very explosive player. Not as consistent as Danger and not quite the same pace, but is a better kick. Gets shut down too easily and is injury prone, but has potential to be WCE's only elite mid (of which we have none atm)

edit: meant to quote the guy comparing shuey to danger, cbf fixing it :p
 

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Tom Rockliff is dangerously underrated. If he was in Victoria he would be known as one of the best players going around. Superstar.
He reminds me of Jobe under Knights
 
Matthew Pavlich still doesn't get the recognition he deserves through out his career in my opinion, he is just a dead set superstar.
Pavlich runs rings around Lance Franklin.

6 times AA
6 times B & F
twice played for Australia versus Ireland in International Rules.
Club captain since 2007

that's a fair amount of recognition. What more possibilities are there for further recognition?
 
6 times AA
6 times B & F
twice played for Australia versus Ireland in International Rules.
Club captain since 2007

that's a fair amount of recognition. What more possibilities are there for further recognition?
I think it's a fair point. He gets the AA noms etc. But if someone asked the average footy fan to name the top 20 players in the league a lot would pass over Pavlich. He's had a couple of standout statistical seasons with goals but usually he just gets his 2-4 goals, takes his marks, he isn't really regarded as one of the great key forwards in the game and he probably should be.
 
I think it's a fair point. He gets the AA noms etc. But if someone asked the average footy fan to name the top 20 players in the league a lot would pass over Pavlich. He's had a couple of standout statistical seasons with goals but usually he just gets his 2-4 goals, takes his marks, he isn't really regarded as one of the great key forwards in the game and he probably should be.
If Pav played in Melbourne he'd be regrded so much higher. Absolute champion player, he, Sandi and Gumby are the three players I want to hold the cup aloft this year if Essendon don't
 

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in order (noting this is only midfielders, so rucks, forwards and defenders not withstanding)

1-Ablett
2-Pendlebury
3-Mitchell
4-Selwood
5-Watson
6-StevieJ
7-Barlow
8-Griffen
9-Dangerfield
10-Mundy
11-Boak
12-Beams
13-Fyfe
14-Goddard
15-Ward
16-Kennedy
17-Jones
18-Jack
19-Burgoyne

Also - Swan, Sloane, Jack, Martin, Rockliff, Ball, Heppell, Schuey
Ironically, you have just proved Cotchin to be underrated. Luke Ball? What has he done in the last few years? Imagine if it was him and not Cotchin being the #1 mid at Richmond, no way they win 15 games last year. He hasn't even got an AA or a b&f to his name since 2005.

Love Nath Jones but Cotchin is better than him too.
 
in order (noting this is only midfielders, so rucks, forwards and defenders not withstanding)

1-Ablett
2-Pendlebury
3-Mitchell
4-Selwood
5-Watson
6-StevieJ
7-Barlow
8-Griffen
9-Dangerfield
10-Mundy
11-Boak
12-Beams
13-Fyfe
14-Goddard
15-Ward
16-Kennedy
17-Jones
18-Jack
19-Burgoyne

Also - Swan, Sloane, Jack, Martin, Rockliff, Ball, Heppell, Schuey

Luke Ball named sub today. You've got NFI mate
 
6 times AA
6 times B & F
twice played for Australia versus Ireland in International Rules.
Club captain since 2007

that's a fair amount of recognition. What more possibilities are there for further recognition?

Pav isn't rated (by some) as high as others because he hasn't performed in big games. Richo Mk II basically.

It's fair enough - apart from the fact that it's not true.:)
 
That's just remarkable. Luke Ball? Funniest post I've read on this site in a long time. And which Martin are you talking about? Because neither Dustin not Jack are even close to Cotchin.
I was asked for a list of 19. The ones you are picking out aren't in the 19 I gave. And as for the sub naming of Ball today. He is getting on in age. He is still a great clearance player and has been for the last decade. This is probably the year he starts to drop off, but it hasn't happened yet.
Pies also have to back up for an early friday game this week. I imagine he is being managed.

Tom Rockliff is dangerously underrated. If he was in Victoria he would be known as one of the best players going around. Superstar.
I really wanted Rockliff in that original 19. Could have had him or Jack in. Get the likes of Redden, Zorko, Rich, Moloney and some of the kids that are being developed around him and in 2-3 years, he will be up there.
I have always thought that Richie Douglas was always underrated. He is a gun.
Very true. Goes about his business under the radar.
 

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If Pav played in Melbourne he'd be regrded so much higher. Absolute champion player, he, Sandi and Gumby are the three players I want to hold the cup aloft this year if Essendon don't
or we draft him this year, get him into the forward line for next year, and he can lift it with us :D
 
That's just remarkable. Luke Ball? Funniest post I've read on this site in a long time. And which Martin are you talking about? Because neither Dustin not Jack are even close to Cotchin.

To be fair they weren't even in the 19 players named, the ones with the numbers are the ones you should be arguing over considering that was the initial argument.
 

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