St Kilda's Seniors.

[aussierulesrules]

No club will give up a top 15 pick for a 30 year old who is not a dominant player or kpp.

Picks around 15 are no "sure thing", like top 5-8 picks are more likely to be and for a team like Essendon, for instance, who probably see their "window" being wide open over the next 4 years (Watson is due to turn 29 before the start of next season, so they'd be going super-hard to win one or more while he is there, I imagine), I would think that someone who has twice been good enough to finish top 3 in the Brownlow and who looks like he could play well for 3-4 more years may be more appealing to them than a speculative pick around 15 in the draft, who may not help them win a premiership. I know I'd be a hell of a lot more confident of Dal Santo helping a team to win a premiership next year, or the year after, than someone who they've just gotten around pick 15 in the draft. I guess it comes down to what price you're prepared to pay to win a flag.

Getting Luke Ball probably made the difference between you guys winning a premiership or not the following year and if a team like Essendon believe that a Dal Santo could make the difference between them winning a premiership or not in the next 3 seasons, then I wouldn't think giving up a a pick like 15 to get him would be out of the question. After getting Goddard and Daniher so cheaply last year they may also feel like they can afford to "gamble" a bit more with their first pick this year, with winning a premiership in the next couple of years being what they want to win out of the gamble.

Dal Santo might not be held in all that high a regard on here, but the fact that pretty much every club in the league still puts a hard tag on him every week suggests that they think differently of him and how damaging he is when he gets the ball. Even you guys, who pretty much never tag, went to the trouble of putting a hard tag on him the other week.

 

[paul scholes]

No club will give up a top 15 pick for a 30 year old who is not a dominant player or kpp.

They won't . Awaiting the obligatory War and Peace length response to why they would.
He's 30 and can't handle any semblance of a tag .

 

[yaco55]

They won't . Awaiting the obligatory War and Peace length response to why they would.
He's 30 and can't handle any semblance of a tag .

Dal Santo would be tagged less in a top 4 team.

 

[TommyJay]

No club will give up a top 15 pick for a 30 year old who is not a dominant player or kpp.

As much as I'm absolutely convinced that we will not trade Dal Santo, that sounds fairly easy to disprove. Last year we were apparently offered a top 3 pick from GWS for Fisher. 30 years old, not a KPB, and not overly dominant last year. Top 3 pick.

 

[aussierulesrules]

Dal Santo would be tagged less in a top 4 team.

Of course he would. Imagine him in your midfield with Watson, Goddard, Stanton, Zaha, Heppell, etc. He'd be running around on his own half the time, drilling it down the throat of the likes of Hurley, Crameri, Ryder, Daniher and Gumby. And when he's getting tagged, it will let a Goddard, Heppell, Zaha, Stanton off the leash to do their thing. That would easily be a midfield good enough to play in a premiership.

 

[aussierulesrules]

They won't . Awaiting the obligatory War and Peace length response to why they would.

That really is the best you've got, isn't it? Even more pathetic and ridiculous when you consider I'd already responded to it. Well done.

Are you to thoughtful, in depth, non-trolling, non-"I'm bitter because your team beat mine in two preliminary finals" responses, what Dal Santo is to a tag? If you have a problem with the way I post, how about raising it with me, like a man, rather than with these snide little digs here and there, otherwise, please feel free to run along.

Very difficult proposition when you have no middle tier.

More trash from you. McEvoy, Armitage, Steven, Geary, Stanley, Saad, Milera may not be the best "middle tier" in the comp and is far from it, but it's not "nothing" or "non-existent", either, as you are suggesting and gives us something to work with, build around and add to, while we still have the older group around and playing well enough. Then we have another 13 in the 20-23yo age bracket. Gwilt and Gilbert are still only 26, too and they have years of finals and GF experience under their belts and were well and truly in our best 22 when we were playing in grand finals, as they still are now. So 9 or at worst 8 of our current best 22 are in that 23-26yo age bracket at the moment.

 

[yaco55]

Of course he would. Imagine him in your midfield with Watson, Goddard, Stanton, Zaha, Heppell, etc. He'd be running around on his own half the time, drilling it down the throat of the likes of Hurley, Crameri, Ryder, Daniher and Gumby. And when he's getting tagged, it will let a Goddard, Heppell, Zaha, Stanton off the leash to do their thing. That would easily be a midfield good enough to play in a premiership.

I believe that Essendon has been linked with Del for the last 2 or 3 years. Doubt it will happen now.

 

[saintkildaman]

I believe that Essendon has been linked with Del for the last 2 or 3 years. Doubt it will happen now.

Hawks fans thought the same about Lake.

 

[paul scholes]

That really is the best you've got, isn't it? Even more pathetic and ridiculous when you consider I'd already responded to it. Well done.

Are you to thoughtful, in depth, non-trolling, non-"I'm bitter because your team beat mine in two preliminary finals" responses, what Dal Santo is to a tag? If you have a problem with the way I post, how about raising it with me, like a man, rather than with these snide little digs here and there, otherwise, please feel free to run along.

More trash from you. McEvoy, Armitage, Steven, Geary, Stanley, Saad, Milera may not be the best "middle tier" in the comp and is far from it, but it's not "nothing" or "non-existent", either, as you are suggesting and gives us something to work with, build around and add to, while we still have the older group around and playing well enough. Then we have another 13 in the 20-23yo age bracket. Gwilt and Gilbert are still only 26, too and they have years of finals and GF experience under their belts and were well and truly in our best 22 when we were playing in grand finals, as they still are now. So 9 or at worst 8 of our current best 22 are in that 23-26yo age bracket at the moment.

Just because people disagree with you, no need to get personal.
Stkilda have an empty middle tier,a point made by Scott Watters. You have your view on Dal Santo's trade value. The majority( not wearing Stkilda goggles ) have a different view . Is it okay to have a different view without resorting to name calling??

 

[paul scholes]

I believe that Essendon has been linked with Del for the last 2 or 3 years. Doubt it will happen now.

Do you think a club would offer up a pick 15?

 

[Blackas87]

Picks around 15 are no "sure thing", like top 5-8 picks are more likely to be and for a team like Essendon, for instance, who probably see their "window" being wide open over the next 4 years (Watson is due to turn 29 before the start of next season, so they'd be going super-hard to win one or more while he is there, I imagine), I would think that someone who has twice been good enough to finish top 3 in the Brownlow and who looks like he could play well for 3-4 more years may be more appealing to them than a speculative pick around 15 in the draft, who may not help them win a premiership. I know I'd be a hell of a lot more confident of Dal Santo helping a team to win a premiership next year, or the year after, than someone who they've just gotten around pick 15 in the draft. I guess it comes down to what price you're prepared to pay to win a flag.

Getting Luke Ball probably made the difference between you guys winning a premiership or not the following year and if a team like Essendon believe that a Dal Santo could make the difference between them winning a premiership or not in the next 3 seasons, then I wouldn't think giving up a a pick like 15 to get him would be out of the question. After getting Goddard and Daniher so cheaply last year they may also feel like they can afford to "gamble" a bit more with their first pick this year, with winning a premiership in the next couple of years being what they want to win out of the gamble.

Dal Santo might not be held in all that high a regard on here, but the fact that pretty much every club in the league still puts a hard tag on him every week suggests that they think differently of him and how damaging he is when he gets the ball. Even you guys, who pretty much never tag, went to the trouble of putting a hard tag on him the other week.

Isn't Dal Santo a free agent? Essendon could sign him without giving up anything.

 

[paul scholes]

That really is the best you've got, isn't it? Even more pathetic and ridiculous when you consider I'd already responded to it. Well done.

Are you to thoughtful, in depth, non-trolling, non-"I'm bitter because your team beat mine in two preliminary finals" responses, what Dal Santo is to a tag? If you have a problem with the way I post, how about raising it with me, like a man, rather than with these snide little digs here and there, otherwise, please feel free to run along.

More trash from you. McEvoy, Armitage, Steven, Geary, Stanley, Saad, Milera may not be the best "middle tier" in the comp and is far from it, but it's not "nothing" or "non-existent", either, as you are suggesting and gives us something to work with, build around and add to, while we still have the older group around and playing well enough. Then we have another 13 in the 20-23yo age bracket. Gwilt and Gilbert are still only 26, too and they have years of finals and GF experience under their belts and were well and truly in our best 22 when we were playing in grand finals, as they still are now. So 9 or at worst 8 of our current best 22 are in that 23-26yo age bracket at the moment.

I should rephrase the term nothing . My view is The Saints have a void of quality in the early 20's bracket.As do the Dogs
Definetely not bitter, as both clubs have still only one flag each. Nick Dal Santo's been told by his coach to lift his input.
It's early days in the season, but on exposed form Dal isn't going to induce a pick of 15.Just a point of view

 

[yaco55]

Do you think a club would offer up a pick 15?

Yes - Seeing that he would top off a top 4 team.

 

[Axcellence]

Isn't Dal Santo a free agent? Essendon could sign him without giving up anything.

He is on the list, but there's trigger claus meaning he has to do a medical at the end of the year to be auto- renewed. Cant walk out till end of next year.