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Richmond's Andrew Collins has kicked the final goal of the game three weeks running.
 
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  1. The fewest most behinds in a season is 18 in 1904
  2. The fewest most goals in a season is 14 in 1917
  3. North Melbourne have never scored 0 or 1 goal in a match; Collingwood not since Round 6 of 1900 in their first-ever loss to Carlton
  4. Between 1925 and 1952, Geelong conceded 3 or fewer goals fourteen times, but South Melbourne not once
  5. The greatest winning margin by a team behind at half-time is 86 points by Carlton against Fitzroy at Princes Park in 1993
 

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Round 15 – 2010 Trivia


1) WB/Footscray's 5th win by 60 or more points this season - their most ever in 1 season. Previous: 4 in 2009.


2) Only the 3rd time that Melbourne has defeated Essendon with 6 or fewer scoring shots. Previous: Round 14, 1957 - Melbourne 11.7-73 v Essendon 9.18-72, Pre. Final 1900, Melbourne 7.3-45 v Essendon 5.13-43.


3) 11 pts. Lowest 3rd quarter aggregate Sydney/SM v Nth Melbourne since 9pts. round 4, 1960.


4) St Kilda’s win gives them their best ever performance from 50 consecutive matches.


5) Geelong’s win and Essendon's loss in round 15, sees Geelong take over from Essendon as the team to have won the highest percentage of matches since 1984. (Geelong 58.37%, Essendon 58.27%)


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  1. The highest score by a team goalless after half-time is 71 points:
    Code: 
    June 10, 1944, Junction Oval

St. Kilda    5-3 (33)    9-7 (61)     9-8 (62)     9-17 (71)
Essendon     3-3 (21)    5-10 (40)    7-14 (56)    9-17 (71)
  2. The lowest half-time score by a team scoring a century is 13 points:
    Code: 
    May 13, 1961, Kardinia Park

[COLOR="Navy"]Geelong      0-2 (2)     1-9 (15)     4-10 (34)    7-13 (55)
Melbourne    1-4 (10)    1-7 (13)    10-12 (72)   17-18 (120)[/COLOR]
  3. In 1989, Essendon in consecutive games at Windy Hill:
    1. lost to Sydney, who did not goal in the second and third quarters
    2. beat Footscray without goaling in the second half
      • these are respectively the last cases of a team winning without goaling in the second and third quarters and in the second half.
  4. The highest score by a team which did not score for two quarters is 72 points:
    Code: 
    September 3, 1927, Western Oval

[COLOR="Blue"]Footscray    6-8 (44)    7-8 (50)    15-11 (101)  15-11 (101)[/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkRed"]Fitzroy      0-0 (0)     3-8 (26)     3-8 (26)     9-18 (72)[/COLOR]
  5. No team has ever scored all its points in the third quarter, though five have scored only in the first quarter, two only in the second and two only in the last
 
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Richmond's team on Saturday night was its youngest winning combination since Round 10, 1969.
 
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If Geelong win next week and the Dogs lose (alternatively whenever the Dogs next lose if Geelong don't) then Bomber Thompson will equal the number of wins as a coach as Rodney Eade, after conceding 35 games in experience to him. Eade, currently on 156 wins as a coach is 2nd highest among the current coaches, behind of course Mick Malthouse.

Richmond's recent little run of wins also staves off the possibility of their overall record reaching 50%, which obviously it had been cartwheeling toward with their mediocre last three decades. The Tigers now have 1039 wins and 1005 losses, which to put it into context means that they are at least two 2-20 seasons away from reaching that. Hardwick may be the first coach in many years to start flipping that stat the other way if he keeps going like he has in the last few weeks.

Rogersresults would be able to tell definitively but if the Eagles, Lions and Port continue their recent lamentable form, Geelong may overtake their win/loss records and move to 4th of all sides overall on percentage, behind of course Collingwood, Carlton and Essendon in that order.
 
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There have been 11 occurrences of clubs being deadlocked on the ladder, unable to be separated by premiership points or percentage.

- eight of these occasions came about due to draws in Round 1, in 1911, 1914, 1915, 1917, 1921, 1933, 1957 and 1960
- in Round 1, 1966, two matches had scorelines of 115-62, resulting in two pairs of teams with the same points and percentage. This occurred again in Round 1, 1968, when two matches were decided 88-72
- the only time two clubs have been deadlocked after Round 1 was following Round 4, 1940 when Essendon and Geelong sat in equal 8th position, with two wins, 353 points for, 381 points against, and a percentage of 92.65 apiece
 
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Catsace said:
Rogersresults would be able to tell definitively but if the Eagles, Lions and Port continue their recent lamentable form, Geelong may overtake their win/loss records and move to 4th of all sides overall on percentage, behind of course Collingwood, Carlton and Essendon in that order.
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Geelong has a chance to overtake Port Adelaide but not West Coast this year.
(Geelong are already well ahead of Brisbane unless unlike the AFL, you count Brisbane Bears and Brisbane Lions as two separate clubs.)

If Geelong won all their remaining games (including 3 finals!) and Port Adelaide and West Coast lost all their remaining games, the standings would be:

West Coast 54.34%
Geelong 53.71%
Port Adelaide 52.92%

After that, each consecutive loss will drop West Coast by approx 0.09% and Port Adelaide by approx 0.16%. Each consecutive win however only gains Geelong approx 0.02%.
 
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Looking at the ten completed minor round seasons from 2000 - 2009 there were only five instances where a team finished four or more games (i.e. >=16 points) higher than the team immediately below them on the ladder.

They were:

2000 Essendon 1st 84 pts [Carlton 2nd 64 pts]

2000 Collingwood 15th 28 pts [St.Kilda 16th 10 pts]

2007 Western Bulldogs 13th 38 pts [Melbourne 14th 20 pts]

2001 Nth. Melbourne 13th 36 pts [West Coast 14th 20 pts]

2008 Geelong 1st 84pts [Hawthorn 2nd 68 pts]
 
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RogersResults said:
1. Essendon have not won a round 7 clash with Hawthorn since 1938.
2. Collingwood have played Brisbane, Fremantle and West Coast only once in round 7 and Hawthorn only twice. They have lost all 5 matches.
3. Melbourne have played Adelaide and Port Adelaide only once in round 7 and Brisbane and St Kilda only twice. They have won all 6 matches.
4. Melbourne and Richmond have met 7 times in round 7. Richmond has won 7 times.
5. Richmond and Geelong have met 11 times in round 7. The only match Geelong has won was round 7, 1931 the year Geelong also defeated Richmond in the Grand Final.


More of this:
http://www.rogersresults.110mb.com/Rogers_Results/Rounds/Rounds.htm
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Just looked at your website, great insight. You must be an expert tipper working with those stats every week!
 
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Buddy's last 8 games vs Geelong

Round 22, 2006 - Buddy kicks 2.1 in a Hawthorn win
Round 4, 2007 - Buddy kicks 1.3 in a Hawthorn win
Round 17, 2008 - Buddy kicks 4.5 in a Hawthorn loss
Grand Final, 2008 - Buddy kicks 2.1 in a Hawthorn win
Round 1, 2009 - Buddy kicks 5.2 in a Hawthorn loss
Round 17, 2009 - Buddy kicks 5.2 in a Hawthorn loss
Round 2, 2010 - Buddy kicks 2.3 in a Hawthorn loss
Round 15, 2010 - Buddy kicks 3.3 in a Hawthorn loss

In other words, whenever Buddy has had 4 or less scoring shots against Geelong in his last 8 outings, Hawthorn have claimed a win. When he has had 5 or more scoring shots, Hawthorn have lost.

In Hawthorn's 3 wins in those 8 games, Buddy has kicked 5.5. In the 5 losses, he's kicked 19.15.

You would've thought it would be the other way around.
 

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

That is a remarkable stat. Although perhaps it's because Geelong nowadays can handle the output of a 'real' or focal target whereas when you get a plethora of smalls like say in the 2008 GF with Williams, Dew, Rioli, Osborne, Ladson etc that scored the goals, it's less predictable for us to contend against. Key is obviously to watch out for the lesser targets!

Paradoxically in times gone by it would be the likes of Dunstall, Carey, and the like that would routinely kill Geelong's backline post Malarkey as we really struggled for a good quality full back with sufficient size. Rogers, Schultze, Darcy and co were just not quite big enough to handle the great forwards of that era.
 
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MightyMark said:
Just looked at your website, great insight. You must be an expert tipper working with those stats every week!
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Not at all, unfortunately. Such stats are of course of amusement value only.

Hawthorn have only won 2 round 17 matches since 1994 but their and St Kilda's current form plus Franklin's rolled ankle and how glued to the bone Riewoldt's ham is are certainly more important considerations in tipping a result than Hawthorn's round 17 past.

However if enough punters were aware of Hawthorn's recent historic lack of success in round 17 and thought it significant, it could serve to shorten the betting odds on St Kilda.
 
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  1. Round 16 is the only round where more than one team has lost with one of the ten highest scores of a season, viz:
    • Collingwood in 1937 v Melbourne
    • Fitzroy in 1962 v South Melbourne
    • North Melbourne in 2001 v Essendon
  2. Since 1908, more scores of 0 or 1 goal have occurred in Round 16 than any other round, viz:
    1. University 0.9 (9) v Collingwood in 1911
    2. St. Kilda 1.5 (11) v Melbourne in 1957
    3. Richmond 0.8 (8) v St. Kilda in 1961
    4. South Melbourne 1.9 (15) v Geelong in 1964
  3. Round 16 of 1993 stands as the last round with three double figure goalkickers - Tony Modra, Saverio Rocca and Stephen Silvagni. Modra’s 13 goals is a Round 16 record.
  4. Round 16 of 1939 saw Melbourne kick 2.5 to Geelong’s 2.6 in the first quarter, 6.2 to 8.2 in the thrid and 3.3 to 3.6 in the last. However, in the second quarter the Demons kicked 11.6 to Geelong’s three behinds to win by 53 points. This 53-point margin is the largest victory by a team winning only one quarter.
  5. Round 16 of 1919 was the first round in which there were three century scores
 
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Oldest coaches:

Code: 
[FONT=Courier New]  Age   Coach           Cb Year Rd Ma#
--------------------------------------
74y164d Charlie Cameron Fi 1948 19  23
71y148d Frank Hughes    Me 1965 13 378
66y265d Jock McHale     Co 1949 SF 713
60y246d John Kennedy    NM 1989 22 411
60y161d Joe Kelly       Sy 1944 18 137
60y 40d Jack Worrall    Es 1920 13 279
59y301d Denis Pagan     Ca 2007 16 344
59y291d George Sparrow  St 1929 SF  63
59y251d Kevin Sheedy    Es 2007 22 635
59y188d Ron Barassi     Sy 1995 22 515[/FONT]


Youngest non-playing coaches:

Code: 
[FONT=Courier New]  Age   Coach            Cb Year Rd[/FONT]
[FONT=Courier New]-----------------------------------[/FONT]
[FONT=Courier New]22y307d Bert Taylor      Ge 1923  2[/FONT]
[FONT=Courier New]27y 42d Wally Clark      Fi 1963 10[/FONT]
[FONT=Courier New]27y206d Allan Jeans      St 1961  1[/FONT]
[FONT=Courier New]28y 36d Harry Saunders   WB 1926  9[/FONT]
[FONT=Courier New]29y123d Graeme Gellie    Sy 1984  5[/FONT]
[FONT=Courier New]30y 23d Graeme John      Sy 1973  1[/FONT]
[FONT=Courier New]30y 91d Ken Sheldon      St 1990  1[/FONT]
[FONT=Courier New]30y135d Barry Richardson Ri 1976 10[/FONT]
[FONT=Courier New]30y227d Mick Malthouse   WB 1984  1[/FONT]
[FONT=Courier New]30y250d Robert Walls     Fi 1981  1[/FONT]


Oldest Grand Final coaches:

Code: 
[FONT=Courier New]  Age   Coach        Cb Year R[/FONT]
[FONT=Courier New]------------------------------[/FONT]
[FONT=Courier New]57y 13d David Parkin Ca 1999 L[/FONT]
[FONT=Courier New]56y292d Jock McHale  Co 1939 L[/FONT]
[FONT=Courier New]56y  9d Allan Jeans  Ha 1989 W[/FONT]
[FONT=Courier New]55y286d Jock McHale  Co 1938 L[/FONT]
[FONT=Courier New]54y287d Jock McHale  Co 1937 L[/FONT]
[FONT=Courier New]54y226d Frank Hughes Me 1948 W[/FONT]
[FONT=Courier New]54y219d Frank Hughes Me 1948 D[/FONT]
[FONT=Courier New]54y  5d Allan Jeans  Ha 1987 L[/FONT]
[FONT=Courier New]53y296d Jock McHale  Co 1936 W[/FONT]
[FONT=Courier New]53y279d Kevin Sheedy Es 2001 L[/FONT]


Youngest non-playing Grand Final coaches:

Code: 
[FONT=Courier New]  Age   Coach        Cb Year R
------------------------------
32y  4d Allan Jeans  St 1965 L
32y268d John Kennedy Ha 1961 W
33y  3d Allan Jeans  St 1966 W
33y217d Frank Hughes Ri 1927 L
33y310d John Coleman Es 1962 W
34y 51d Vic Belcher  Fi 1922 W
34y211d Ron Barassi  Ca 1970 W
34y216d Frank Hughes Ri 1928 L
34y280d John Kennedy Ha 1963 L
35y  2d Gary Ayres   Ge 1995 L[/FONT]


Players who've played under the most coaches:

Code: 
[FONT=Courier New]Co Player           Club(s)     Gms  Career[/FONT]
[FONT=Courier New]---------------------------------------------[/FONT]
[FONT=Courier New]14 Johnny Lewis     NM,Me       196 1925-1936[/FONT]
[FONT=Courier New]12 Charlie Cameron  NM,Fi       145 1926-1934[/FONT]
[FONT=Courier New]12 Jim Adamson      NM          180 1929-1941[/FONT]
[FONT=Courier New]12 Billy Picken     Co,Sy       240 1974-1986[/FONT]
[FONT=Courier New]11 Harry Neill      Sy,WB,St    103 1925-1933[/FONT]
[FONT=Courier New]11 Johnny Gregory   NM          156 1926-1935[/FONT]
[FONT=Courier New]11 George Dougherty Ca,Ge,WB,Sy 173 1934-1945[/FONT]
[FONT=Courier New]10 Arthur Hiskins   Sy          185 1908-1923[/FONT]
[FONT=Courier New]10 Mark Tandy       Sy          207 1911-1926[/FONT]
[FONT=Courier New]10 Paddy O'Brien    WB          182 1925-1945[/FONT]
[FONT=Courier New]10 Wally Carter     NM          137 1929-1940[/FONT]
[FONT=Courier New]10 Jim Francis      Ha,Ca       223 1929-1943[/FONT]
[FONT=Courier New]10 Joe Sellwood     Ge          180 1930-1945[/FONT]
[FONT=Courier New]10 Jack Grant       Ge,Fi       145 1935-1946[/FONT]
[FONT=Courier New]10 Bruce Doull      Ca          356 1969-1986[/FONT]
[FONT=Courier New]10 Rod Carter       Fi,Sy       293 1974-1990[/FONT]
[FONT=Courier New]10 Doug Hawkins     WB,Fi       350 1978-1995[/FONT]
[FONT=Courier New]10 John Barker      Fi,Br,Ha    168 1994-2006[/FONT]


Coaches who coached the most future coaches:

Code: 
[FONT=Courier New]Co Coach            Club(s)        Gms  Career   CGms
-----------------------------------------------------
24 Dan Minogue      Ri,Ha,Ca,St,Fi 363 1920-1942 1845
20 Jock McHale      Co             713 1912-1949 1519
19 Tom Hafey        Ri,Co,Ge,Sy    522 1966-1988 2538
18 Allan Jeans      St,Ha,Ri       575 1961-1992 2541
17 Ron Barassi      Me,Ca,NM,Sy    515 1964-1995 2003
15 Frank Hughes     Ri,Me          378 1927-1965 1787
14 David Parkin     Ha,Ca,Fi       518 1977-2000 1973
14 Percy Parratt    Fi,Ca,Ge       125 1913-1935  693
13 Norm Smith       Fi,Me,Sy       452 1949-1972 1485
13 Charlie Ricketts Sy,Ri,St       115 1909-1921  926
13 Norman Clark     Ca,Ri,St,NM    214 1912-1931  886
13 Frank Maher      Es,Fi,Ca       130 1925-1936  589
13 Vic Belcher      Sy,Fi          146 1914-1927  417
12 John Kennedy     Ha,NM          411 1960-1989 1857
12 Reg Hickey       Ge             304 1932-1959  590
12 Roy Cazaly       Sy,Ha           82 1922-1943  476
12 Gordon Rattray   Me,Fi           88 1924-1939  436
12 Dick Reynolds    Es             415 1939-1960  386[/FONT]
 
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Biggest margin between League's leading goalkicker and the runner up


Margin Season Leader . . .Club Goals Runner up . .Club Goals
61 . . .1968 .P Hudson . .Haw .125 . P McKenna . .Coll .64
60 . . .1929 .G Coventry .Coll 124 . H Vallence . Carl .64
51 . . .1989 .J Dunstall .Haw .138 . G Ablett . . Geel .87
50 . . .1988 .J Dunstall .Haw .132 . G Ablett . . Geel .82
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .S Beasley . .Foot .82
46 . . .2001 .M Lloyd . . Ess .105 . M Richardson Rich .59
45 . . .1934 .R Pratt . . Sth .150 . G Coventry . Coll 105
44 . . .1952 .J Coleman . Ess .103 . G Goninon . .Geel .59
43 . . .1939 .R Todd . . .Coll 121 . S Murray . . Nth . 78
39 . . .1938 .R Todd . . .Coll 120 . H Vallence . Carl .81
39 . . .1967 .D Wade . . .Geel .96 . P Hudson . . Haw . 57
37 . . .1983 .B Quinlan . Fitz 116 . L Matthews . Haw . 79
35 . . .1930 .G Coventry .Coll 118 . W Mohr . . . St.K .83
35 . . .1949 .J Coleman . Ess .100 . J Spencer . .Nth . 65
34 . . .1950 .J Coleman . Ess .120 . J Spencer . .Nth . 86
33 . . .2000 .M Lloyd . . Ess .109 . J Farmer . . Melb .76
32 . . .1953 .J Coleman . Ess . 97 . G Goninon . .Geel .65
 
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Average goals per team, per match, per year, with maximum and minimum:

avggoals.jpg


Peak: 16.18 (1982)
Low: 5.01 (1899)

Note that the 2010 figure of 12.90 is the first time the average has dipped below 13 goals since 1970.

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NB no allowance made for rushed behinds

accuracy.jpg



Peak: 55.24% (2000)
Low: 38.07% (1900)

2010 figure of 51.98% lowest since 1990.

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Round 16 2010 - Trivia:

1) Only the 3rd time Hawthorn has won a match by scoring 75% or more of their score in the 1st (38.14%) and third (40.68%) quarters.
2) Hawthorn v Brisbane is only the 2nd match ever played where the 1st and 3rd quarter margins were 6 goals or more and the 2nd and 4th quarter margins were 3 points or less.
3) 76 pts: Greatest turnaround in a result in the same season by Collingwood after losing their first match v St Kilda.
4) First time West Coast has had the highest score of the round since 26.17.173 v Richmond, round 22, 2006.
5) 2nd time this year that Melbourne has scored more than half their total score in the 3rd quarter, their most in 1 season since twice in 1990. (Most: 3 times in 1898, 1902, 1910, 1919.)


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SJ said:
When was the last time the top two teams lost and the bottom team won in a given round?
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Round 19, 2004

Melbourne 1st lost to Port Adelaide 4th – 6.16-52 v 18.17-125
Brisbane 2nd lost to West Coast 10th – 10.13-73 v 12.15-87
Hawthorn 16th defeated WB/Footscray 14th – 19.6-120 v 16.13-109

(Melbourne lost with the same score as St Kilda in R16, 2010)


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RogersResults said:
(Melbourne lost with the same score as St Kilda in R16, 2010)
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For their sake I hope they don't follow the way we played for the rest of the year after that loss.
 

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