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The obvious question (well, obvious to me, anyhow): presuming Sean Dempster gets the nod this week, he will play his 5th grand final within his first 100 career games.

Has any player in VFL (I'd pretty safely say not AFL) history previously achieved that? (Maybe some Hawthorn players who came of age in the '83-'85 period, seem like the most recent contenders.)
 
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SimonH said:
The obvious question (well, obvious to me, anyhow): presuming Sean Dempster gets the nod this week, he will play his 5th grand final within his first 100 career games.

Has any player in VFL (I'd pretty safely say not AFL) history previously achieved that? (Maybe some Hawthorn players who came of age in the '83-'85 period, seem like the most recent contenders.)
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I'll let the stats pros answer this better than I, but here are some:

72: Frank Adams - http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/players/F/Frank_Adams.html (6 in 89, 7 in 102 :eek:)
73: Jim Marchbank - http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/players/J/Jim_Marchbank.html (over 7 seasons)
80: Laurie Mithen - http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/players/L/Laurie_Mithen.html (6 in 99)
82: Frank Murphy - http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/players/F/Frank_Murphy0.html (6 in 101)
83: Fred Fontaine - http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/players/F/Fred_Fontaine.html (over 8 seasons; 6 in 100)
86: Bob Johnson - http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/players/B/Bob_Johnson1.html (6 in 105)
91: Billy Payne - http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/players/B/Billy_Payne.html
96: Sean Dempster - http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/players/S/Sean_Dempster.html
96: Ian Ridley - http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/players/I/Ian_Ridley.html
96: Bervyn Woods - http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/players/B/Bervyn_Woods.html
97: Ron Barassi - http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/players/R/Ron_Barassi0.html
100: Arnold Briedis - http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/players/A/Arnold_Briedis.html
100: Harry Collier - http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/players/H/Harry_Collier.html
101: Trevor Johnson - http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/players/T/Trevor_Johnson.html
101: Albert Collier - http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/players/A/Albert_Collier.html
102: Brian Dixon - http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/players/B/Brian_Dixon.html
104: Malcolm Blight - http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/players/M/Malcolm_Blight.html
 
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^^ The rest:

Bert Harper (Es) 59/5
George Hassell (Es) 61/5
Bob McClure (Es) 68/5, 88/6
Harold L. Lambert (Es) 71/5, 87/6, 99/7
Ricky Barham (Co) 72/5
Norm McDonald (Es) 77/5, 97/6
Wally May (Es) 79/5
Ted Leehane (Es) 83/5
Bob Syme (Es) 83/5
Jack R. Jones (Es) 86/5
Jack Beveridge (Co) 89/5
Harry J. Clarke (Fi) 91/5
Keith Rawle (Es) 92/5
Alby Rodda (Me) 94/5
Harry Saunders (Co) 94/5
Norman Clark (Ca) 96/5
Vin Doherty (Co) 96/5
Charlie E. Pannam (Co) 97/5
Laurie Nash (Sy) 99/5
 

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Schneider has played in four AFL grand finals which have a combined margin of 17 points (4, 1, 12, 0). Is this the lowest of any four-grand final player ever, and what are the records for players who have played in more or less grand finals?
 
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SJ said:
Schneider has played in four AFL grand finals which have a combined margin of 17 points (4, 1, 12, 0). Is this the lowest of any four-grand final player ever, and what are the records for players who have played in more or less grand finals?
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Last column is the number of players to have played in x Grand Finals.

Code: 
GF Mgn Player                         Plyrs
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11 518 Michael Tuck                       1
10 251 Gordon Coventry                    4
 9 277 Harry Collier                      1
 8 180 Brent Crosswell                    8
 7 129 Dick Lee                          19
 6  93 Ern Jenkins                       40
 5  32 Vic Belcher                       86
 4  17 Adam Schneider                   154
    17 Sean Dempster                    154
 3   5 Darren Jolly                     295
 2   5 31 players, mostly from 2005-06  507
 1   0 22 players                      1026
 
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i'm sure this has been questioned and answered before but for the life of me i cannot find it anywhere.

What players have won the Brownlow, North Smith and a Premiership Medallion.

I came up with
Hird (96, 00, 00+93)
Black (02, 03, 01+02+03)
G. Williams (94, 95, 95)
Judd (04+10, 05, 06)

are these the only four players?
 
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Buckley just might get one as a coach though!

But by then, Hird will have one as a player and a coach anyway :p
 
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red+black said:
This is prompted by http://twitter.com/#!/AFLStatsGuys/status/25732406150

What is the W/L record of all VFL/AFL clubs in October?
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Code: 
Cb  P W L D  For  Aga    %   Win% Last
--------------------------------------
WC  1 1 - -  143   63 227.0 100.0 1994
NM  1 1 - -  151  124 121.8 100.0 1977
Fi  4 3 1 -  248  219 113.2  75.0 1923
Ge  8 5 3 -  611  670  91.2  62.5 1994
Ri 10 6 4 -  713  691 103.2  60.0 1972
Me  6 3 2 1  432  433  99.8  58.3 1948
Co 16 8 8 - 1103 1096 100.6  50.0 1990
Es  7 2 4 1  457  490  93.3  35.7 1990
Sy  6 2 4 -  414  434  95.2  33.0 1936
Ca  8 2 6 -  576  579  99.5  25.0 1972
Ha  1 - 1 -   60  109  55.0    -  1963
 

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ClarkeM said:
What's the overall average winning margin?
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You mean for every game?

Code: 
 Years   Gms AvMgn
------------------
1897-99  201 30.09
1900-09  756 27.46
1910-19  757 26.34
1920-29  935 26.61
1930-39 1120 29.42
1940-49 1102 30.42
1950-59 1126 27.13
1960-69 1145 29.04
1970-79 1378 32.19
1980-89 1446 37.71
1990-99 1761 37.20
2000-10 2035 34.70
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       13762 31.75
 
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In terms of average age per player, how does the 2010 Collingwood premiership compare? I have looked back to 1985 and they seem to be the youngest, even younger than the Baby Bombers. Is this the youngest premiership team of all time?
 
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DeanoT said:
In terms of average age per player, how does the 2010 Collingwood premiership compare? I have looked back to 1985 and they seem to be the youngest, even younger than the Baby Bombers. Is this the youngest premiership team of all time?
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Code: 
Rk Year Cb AvAge
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 1 1958 Co 22.94
 2 1961 Ha 23.04
 3 1955 Me 23.22
 4 1962 Es 23.30
 5 1957 Me 23.31
 6 1966 St 23.31
 7 1963 Ge 23.43
 8 1953 Co 23.46
 9 1967 Ri 23.46
10 1969 Ri 23.46
11 1968 Ca 23.46
12 1951 Ge 23.52
13 1954 WB 23.63
14 1956 Me 23.70
15 1952 Ge 23.78
16 1976 Ha 23.82
17 1978 Ha 23.83
18 1909 Sy 24.05
19 1960 Me 24.05
20 1904*Fi 24.12
21 2010 Co 24.16

* age of one player unknown
 
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Wanting to know how many grand finals in a row a team has failed to win?

eg. St Kilda is 0/5 since 1966, Collingwood went 0/9 during the Colliwobble period, etc
 
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Answering my own question. St Kilda are developing their own Colliwobbles.

Code: 
[B][U]STREAK OF GRAND FINAL MATCHES WITHOUT A WIN[/U][/B]

Collingwood   9   1960 1964 1966 1970 1977 1977 1979 1980 1981
Richmond      5   1924 1927 1928 1929 1931
Geelong       5   1967 1989 1992 1994 1995
Sydney / SM   5   1934 1935 1936 1945 1996
[B]St Kilda      5   1971 1997 2009 2010 2010*[/B]
Collingwood   4   1920 1922 1925 1926
Collingwood   4   1937 1938 1939 1952
Carlton       3   1916 1921 1932
Essendon      3   1947 1947 1948
Essendon      3   1951 1957 1959

* still current
 

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Given the AFL's change to the interchange bench for 2011, what is the precise history for how interchange and substitute players have been used?

Can someone put years to the changes below?

Stamos said:
no interchange/subs,
to a 19th man sub,
to a 20th man sub,
to a 2 man interchange,
to a 3 man interchange,
to a 4 man interchange,
and now back to a 3 man interchange and 1 sub.
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red+black said:
Given the AFL's change to the interchange bench for 2011, what is the precise history for how interchange and substitute players have been used?

Can someone put years to the changes below?
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1897-1898 20 players on the field, no bench
1899-1929 18 players on the field, no bench
1930-1945 1 interchange
1946-1993 2 interchange
1994-1997 3 interchange
1998-2010 4 interchange

1978- players going to the bench permitted to return
 
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Something like this then?

Code: 
[B][U]Start  Finish  #Yrs  Field  Subs  I/C[/U][/B]
1897   1898       2     20     0    0
1899   1929      31     18     0    0
1930   1945      16     18     1    0
1946   1977      32     18     2    0
1978   1993      16     18     0    2
1994   1997       4     18     0    3
1998   2010      13     18     0    4
2011   ....       1*    18     1    3

* current
subs - player subbed off cannot return to field
i/c - player subbed off can return to field
 
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UpForGrabs said:
Quick Question:

Are kick-ins counted on your stats sheet as kicks?

If not, how can a mark be paid if the ball isn't officially kicked to you?
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Pretty sure they're only counted if you play on. Don't know the answer to the second part.
 

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