News Suns to ask for Pick 1 as a priority pick

[Crankyhawk]

I think some people forget the Dees, Saints, Blues have all had multiple bites at the PP apple as have Hawthorn and Richmond so any outrage is a bit rich with this in mind and the fact that some of the above clubs have raided the Suns and GWS of elite talent

Your club didn’t exist when the first round PPS happened. They have been seen as a mistake, highlighted by the urine extraction that was Melbourne yoyo between top 8 and less than 5 wins every second season.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

arh... every club takes players form other clubs .. I think Hawks might have 1 or 2 or 5. What GC need is a competitive side ..to help settle the younger types... the concessions are all well and good... they have talent will get more...but every side especially the Saints will be eyeing BKing .. let alone the SA sides looking at Luk. If they are closer to a win every couple of weeks then they have a far better chance to keep them.

I feel like now though, if I'm Lukosious or King I'm signing a deal with the suns. Even if it's only a couple of years to see how it pans out. Worth a stab.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Your club didn’t exist when the first round PPS happened. They have been seen as a mistake, highlighted by the urine extraction that was Melbourne yoyo between top 8 and less than 5 wins every second season.

Melbourne has hardly been a yoyo. They've made finals once since John Howard was PM.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

The NT really hasn't produced much talent in the past few years. And Maurice Rioli Jr could be the best of the bunch, and he's going to Richmond.

Fair call but historically it had produced some pretty good players. Cockatoo and I think Parfitt on our list are pretty handy at least when fit

 

[CWaffles]

So what ? Seems to be working quite well for the Giants.

Giants managed to keep most of their core talent, GC have barely kept any, i wouldn't compare the 2 considering one played on a GF on Saturday and one has never made the finals.

 

[Crankyhawk]

Melbourne has hardly been a yoyo. They've made finals once since John Howard was PM.

I was thinking 1997-2004 (when the 5 win start of draft pp was a rule)

 

[The Matador]

Maybe so, but it's all academic anyway. Zero chance that the Suns will trade pick 2 this year for anyone or any team. Zilch, Zippo, Zero.

They are getting the Oakleigh Chargers Dream Team of Rowell and Anderson, they are not like the New York Knicks and keep doing foolish, nonsensical trades.

If we wanted to be seriously competitive next year, trading the first 2 picks this year for the Crouch brothers, or raiding a Melbourne club or clubs for genuinely elite mids like Cripps and Treloar would get us there. Rowell and Anderson need 4 years +.

 

[Iva Bigun]

Well people in Tasmania have been continually asking for a side for how many years? Do people in Queensland really care that much for AFL?

Yes

 

[The Matador]

Well people in Tasmania have been continually asking for a side for how many years? Do people in Queensland really care that much for AFL?

Its a complete fallacy that QLD is a rugby state. that game is basically dead. Did you see the Lions home crowds this year? Queenslanders are just massive bandwagoners. Metricon will be sold out every week once we start winning games. We just have to get there.

 

[Iva Bigun]

Giants managed to keep most of their core talent, GC have barely kept any, i wouldn't compare the 2 considering one played on a GF on Saturday and one has never made the finals.

Which club has lost more 1st round draft picks? Look it up you May be surprised

 

[Rookie]

I would be fuming if I was a doggies supporter in 2011, and see my club get one measly first rounder for a gun player like Ward, while Melbourne get 2 for Scully.

Then Melbourne were excused for tanking. Then they got pick 3 for Frawley. The list goes on.

We got Jack Macrae and a few good years out of Ward. Pretty good return on Jordon McMahon if you ask me, I still thank Richmond for that one.

 

[guruisatiger]

Very happy with the assistance package the gold coast received today
Excellent news well done to all

 

[guruisatiger]

We got Jack Macrae and a few good years out of Ward. Pretty good return on Jordon McMahon if you ask me, I still thank Richmond for that one.

thanks for giving us Jordan McMahon,, he got us a dual norm Smith medalist

 

[guruisatiger]

Yep that’s because you go for Richmond. But what about everyone else.

**** every one else

 

[guruisatiger]

Yep because clubs like Richmond poached their talent. Lynch Prestia Caddy. So everyone else has to suffer because of it ?

Geelong poached caddy from the suns

 

[The Matador]

Very happy with the assistance package the gold coast received today
Excellent news well done to all

We are set to put it to good use.

 

[guruisatiger]

Most people are pretty annoyed. Melbourne and Adelaide are the clubs getting screwed over the most here though

Melbourne have been kissed on the dick by the AFL for years
This won't hurt them at all

 

[Rookie]

thanks for giving us Jordan McMahon,, he got us a dual norm Smith medalist

So he did! The greatest win-win trade of all time?

 

[guruisatiger]

We are set to put it to good use.

Hope you do ,, good times ahead for the suns

 

[guruisatiger]

So he did! The greatest win-win trade of all time?

So we gave you pick 19 for jordy
Pick 19 got you wardy
And wardy got you McRae ,
Jordy kicks winning goal against Dees
Giving us pick 3 , welcome dusty ,,, thanks dees

 

[Maurice Mitchell]

Agree with you, no way will they retain personal in the 5 year cycle, especially talented youngsters unless the chain them to a post.
Whom would voluntarily play footy in the environment with just a few thousand spectators, its like playing in extended junior competition, not inspiring.

Yet, people say move them to Tassie. Tell me anyone: which young kid aspires to go to Tasmania? Isn't it a place that young people leave?

 

[The Matador]

Yet, people say move them to Tassie. Tell me anyone: which young kid aspires to go to Tasmania? Isn't it a place that young people leave?

That's a very good point and one that I haven't heard mentioned once in all the Tasmania discussion in the media.

 

[Maurice Mitchell]

But at least teams know about it.

How about doing pick 1 next year and then teams can account for it when it comes to trading future picks.

Or better still, do something about their retention rather than just giving them more players to lose. They have done nothing at all about dealing with the problem, which is retention. Below are their top 11 picks in history, most of who are still playing and acceptable from talent perspective to be drafted in that range.

The * ones are the players they couldn't keep - How the incompetent 'leaders' at the AFL can't see it's not a matter of getting more talent in the door - IT'S ABOUT KEEPING TALENT THERE. The corruption of the draft at the last minute does nothing at all to solve this problem.

2-Luko
3-Rankine
6-King
4-Ainsworth
7-Scrimshaw*
9-Brodie
10-Bowes
8-AcHee*
8-Wright
5-Kolodjashnij*
1(mini)-Martin*
1(mini)-O'Meara*
1-Swallow
2-Bennell*
3-Day*
7-Caddy*
9-Prestia*
10-Gorringe*
11-Lynch*

I guess they are backing their team up there to do that

 

[Maurice Mitchell]

Because they have a year left on their contract and yet to sign on?

All speculation. Once they have 8 - 10 excellent kids under 22 they could very well form a strong bond. I reckon if the culture is right they would stay. Look at the Giants; the ones they wanted to keep are still there.

 

[Maurice Mitchell]

I would be fuming if I was Melbourne they will miss out on one of Rowell or Anderson

They should be fuming because they were so shithouse this year. No sympathy from me.