Sydney Stack Discussion

[Phar Ace]

i dont think anyone could possibly argue that stack being locked up is unfair. more the fact that hundreds or even thousands of others haven't been for significantly more egregious, life threatening and repeated breaches.

id have been locking up everyone who was meant to have self isolated at home after a single breach, except in the most exceptional of circumstances.

Every circumstance is exceptional - just ask the exceptional!

 

[THE_GUN]

Do the crime then you do the time !

I have no issue with and totally agree with stack being locked up until jan 6 , He has proven numerous times that he cannot be trusted and has been treated fairly and nothing to do with race or religion.

Probably the best thing for him as he would have most likely done some sh!t that would have landed him in jail on new years
hopefully this is the event that opens his eyes to what the alternative life is to what he is living. Grow a brain SS you have a gift that only last 10 years dont piss it away.

 

[SunshineBoy]

I wonder if he can offload his NYE tickets

 

[Phar Ace]

I wonder if he can offload his NYE tickets

 

[Drunken Wookie]

Maybe we should get Eddie Betts to mentor Stack?
Couldn’t hurt.

Or... Pickett?

 

[The Mighty]

I wonder if he can offload his NYE tickets

Yeah the Ole New Years Tickets became moot pretty quick.

 

[Bazzar]

I think it was his repeat breach history that motivated the Judge. That, and something to do with not leaving Hakea Prison (Covid19 protocols)

The judge didn't lock him up, the police did because he broke quarantine at 1.10am and was 100 kilometres from the home quarantine address he leagaly agreed and signed for.

No chance would they let him go back to Belmont with his pissed mates at 1.30am when he was legally under quarantine restrictions.

Magistrate refused bail for "24 hours" until the matter was resolved. It wasn't resolved because for some reason he didn't show up to that hearing.

 

[Phar Ace]

The judge didn't lock him up, the police did because he broke quarantine at 1.10am and was 100 kilometres from the home quarantine address he leagaly agreed and signed for.

No chance would they let him go back to Belmont with his pissed mates at 1.30am when he was legally under quarantine restrictions.

Magistrate refused bail for "24 hours" until the matter was resolved. It wasn't resolved because for some reason he didn't show up to that hearing.

Thanks Baz - hot to trot on the details - well done. Only thing is I didn't say the Judge 'locked him up', which sees to be what you are saying I said for some reason - not a biggie, but it was written like you were taking issue for some reason.......... Hope you have a Merry Xmas though

 

[Bazzar]

Thanks Baz - hot to trot on the details - well done. Only thing is I didn't say the Judge 'locked him up', which sees to be what you are saying I said for some reason - not a biggie, but it was written like you were taking issue for some reason.......... Hope you have a Merry Xmas though

Sorry, no issue at all.
Also have a great Xmas

 

[All Aust]

Maybe we should get Eddie Betts to mentor Stack?
Couldn’t hurt.

It is reasonably obvious that Sydney needs a full time mentor as he doesn't appear to have capacities to understand the consequences of his societal behaviours. Not a doctor but watching this train gathering speed as it approaches a hairpin is so ADD with minimal treatment / medication. The Club (his employer) and his Manager (his WTF!!!) have responsibilities for Sydney's welfare. If Sydney was left to his own devices to make his way from Queensland to WA or was booked by his employer to travel and to stay with family with whom there is a substantial history of conflict, then this is workplace negligence. The employers have placed the employee in harm.

Posters can whine, drop salt, rage all they like but you will not see anything but support for [PLAYERCARD]Sydney Stack[/PLAYERCARD] from RFC and Paul Peos because under workplace common law, both have knowledge the employee, his capacities and his circumstances. They have and will be expected to have a workplace Duty of Care over him.

 

[Bazzar]

When Stack went to WA on compassionate grounds SA was medium risk and this is the pass he legally agreed to.

 

[Rubber Hips]

thats pretty unfair tbh (not that i disagree pedos should be locked away forever). everyone else has pretty much walked free from breaching restrictions too, even while knowing they have the disease.

stacky would have a pretty fair claim that hes only being held due to his ethnicity. you can bet the 4 or so other people being held are all either poor or a minority. nothing like being middle class and white (and thats coming from someone who is). just look at how we put the entire housing commission into house arrest on an hours notice, yet we didnt do the same to the 20% (or something like that) of people who left quarantine while knowing they had it.

seems a pretty harsh penalty....like he is being made an example of

meanwhile on the Northern Beaches, Gladys cant seem to locate patient zero...yet half the world knows it’s some old rich person who flouted CV19 restrictions but has mates in the right places......yet that’s kosher......even though NSW faces an uncertain Christtams with lockdowns

 

[theyellowsash]

The judge didn't lock him up, the police did because he broke quarantine at 1.10am and was 100 kilometres from the home quarantine address he leagaly agreed and signed for.

No chance would they let him go back to Belmont with his pissed mates at 1.30am when he was legally under quarantine restrictions.

Magistrate refused bail for "24 hours" until the matter was resolved. It wasn't resolved because for some reason he didn't show up to that hearing.

On that last point, I think people have already said it's because the place he's locked up can't provide the video link required for him to attend.

Regardless of the crime and what you think of stack, to lock someone up temporarily and then reject bail because you didn't provide them the ability to apply is seriously wrong.

 

[Bazzar]

On that last point, I think people have already said it's because the place he's locked up can't provide the video link required for him to attend.

Regardless of the crime and what you think of stack, to lock someone up temporarily and then reject bail because you didn't provide them the ability to apply is seriously wrong.

Yesterday a spokesperson for WA's Department of Justice said-

"Prisoners at Hakea did not have their quarantine periods reset unless they returned a positive COVID-19 test or were subject to an emergency order imposed by WA Police.
Prisoners subject to quarantine are isolated in their cells, where they can receive meals, medical and other services, provided with the appropriate protections in place," he said.
"They cannot receive social visits but can make telephone calls and are allowed out of their cells to exercise on their own for up to two hours a day.
"Quarantined prisoners can make video-link court appearances, done in accordance with COVID-19 protocols."

 

[theyellowsash]

seems a pretty harsh penalty....like he is being made an example of

meanwhile on the Northern Beaches, Gladys cant seem to locate patient zero...yet half the world knows it’s some old rich person who flouted CV19 restrictions but has mates in the right places......yet that’s kosher......even though NSW faces an uncertain Christtams with lockdowns

I agree that I don't think he's been treated particularly fairly compared to other people around Australia and probably wa too. But that's because they've been too lenient on the others, not too harsh on stack. I still reckon a different colour might very well have had him on the streets already, I'm sure there's heaps in WA who have done what he has and he is locked up alongside only a handful of others with some pretty significant breaches, much worse ones imho.

 

[theyellowsash]

Yesterday a spokesperson for WA's Department of Justice said-

"Prisoners at Hakea did not have their quarantine periods reset unless they returned a positive COVID-19 test or were subject to an emergency order imposed by WA Police.
Prisoners subject to quarantine are isolated in their cells, where they can receive meals, medical and other services, provided with the appropriate protections in place," he said.
"They cannot receive social visits but can make telephone calls and are allowed out of their cells to exercise on their own for up to two hours a day.
"Quarantined prisoners can make video-link court appearances, done in accordance with COVID-19 protocols."

It's also been separately publicly said (by the way authorities apparently) that the Hakea prison in particular can't provide the video link in accordance with protocols. The statement above sounds pretty general across all prisons, but it sounds like the Hakea one can't do that.

 

[Bazzar]

It's also been separately publicly said (by the way authorities apparently) that the Hakea prison in particular can't provide the video link in accordance with protocols. The statement above sounds pretty general across all prisons, but it sounds like the Hakea one can't do that.

The statement was clarifying the media comments he wasn't allowed a video link from Hakea. He was and for reasons only known to him he chose not to

 

[Bazzar]

I agree that I don't think he's been treated particularly fairly compared to other people around Australia and probably wa too. But that's because they've been too lenient on the others, not too harsh on stack. I still reckon a different colour might very well have had him on the streets already, I'm sure there's heaps in WA who have done what he has and he is locked up alongside only a handful of others with some pretty significant breaches, much worse ones imho.

Stack is the 5th person locked up, and the only indigenous one. Their was a 6th, he was given the choice of the government approved Continental hotel quarantine at his own expense or Hakea Prison. Naturally he chose the hotel.,
He could have been out if he fronted the magistrate and convince her he would stay in the hotel for 14 days.

Remember one woman from Victoria was jailed for 6 months for trying to hide in a truck and enter WA. She spent 3 weeks in jail, then released on appeal to do comunity service.

 

[wegetpumped]

But the time must fit the crime. The rules are just ridiculous if they start including stopovers at airports. If he had gone straight to WA from Melbourne there would have been no need to quarantine. Yes, he was stupid but stupidity like that should not land you in jail for 2 weeks including missing Christmas. That is WAY over the top. FFS even murderers are granted bail.....

Rules are rules however stupid or unfair they look. They are brought it cause the minority think they are better than anyone else so we have to pay the price also. The ones that have caused these rules are the same ones whinging and breaking them nonstop. Ohhh where al the Karen's of this world gone.
I may be wrong but this is the 3rd time he has breached covid rules just like the rfc how many chances do you need to give at it surely seems like it ain't sinking in.
Ps he mentioned he wants lenience cause his Tigers future is on the line woahhhh

 

[Bojangles17]

It is reasonably obvious that Sydney needs a full time mentor as he doesn't appear to have capacities to understand the consequences of his societal behaviours. Not a doctor but watching this train gathering speed as it approaches a hairpin is so ADD with minimal treatment / medication. The Club (his employer) and his Manager (his WTF!!!) have responsibilities for Sydney's welfare. If Sydney was left to his own devices to make his way from Queensland to WA or was booked by his employer to travel and to stay with family with whom there is a substantial history of conflict, then this is workplace negligence. The employers have placed the employee in harm.

Posters can whine, drop salt, rage all they like but you will not see anything but support for [PLAYERCARD]Sydney Stack[/PLAYERCARD] from RFC and Paul Peos because under workplace common law, both have knowledge the employee, his capacities and his circumstances. They have and will be expected to have a workplace Duty of Care over him.

That’s all well and good buddy however those in charge have a responsibility to the team , the individual need to play their part in demonstrating a team first mindset with professionalism and discipline. We re not running a halfway house , if those in charge deem that he is a legitimate and disruptive threat to the well being of our team then that’s when he ll be cut loose. And that’s the clubs responsibility , we can ensure he has as much support as req , but it won’t be as a pro footballer

 

[Del65166]

I think it was his repeat breach history that motivated the Judge. That, and something to do with not leaving Hakea Prison (Covid19 protocols)

Still think a decent lawyer would've argued that Breach 1 was an AFL internal issue. No Qld police charges or even not even fined. I'd argue that Stack had been in the hub July 1 ~Sept 3. 3 months without issue. So he's capable of that much self discipline. So he should have been judged on the WA issue alone & that should have easily allowed him hotel quarantine. The Perth video footage shows Stack being chased by multiple assailants. Again nothing wrong on Stack's part at this stage, other than quarantine. I'd use Dimma's comments about the difficulty of training restrictions etc.

 

[Bazzar]

Still think a decent lawyer would've argued that Breach 1 was an AFL internal issue. No Qld police charges or even not even fined. I'd argue that Stack had been in the hub July 1 ~Sept 3. 3 months without issue. So he's capable of that much self discipline. So he should have been judged on the WA issue alone & that should have easily allowed him hotel quarantine.

This is his third breach. He also breached in WA after returning from kebabgate.

 

[Del65166]

This is his third breach. He also breached in WA after returning from kebabgate.

I can never see the information about this. What was the fine? penalty?

 

[Rubber Hips]

Back the Stack

 

[BC9_]

I can never see the information about this. What was the fine? penalty?

WHAT IS THE CHARGE? EATING A MEAL? A SUCCULENT KEBAB MEAL?