Sydney Stack Discussion

[Aristotle Pickett the3rd]

Was he indigenous?

There was zero chance Stack had the virus and there was no reason to lock him for quaranteen for 17 days.
WA's record on Indigenous issues is pretty bad and on the record so I agree with Jason Misfud[/Quote][/QUOTE

 

[Phar Ace]

Do you have an uncle Jack???

No, but if you do, be careful how you use your commas...........

 

[SunshineBoy]

did he go to the Supreme Court to have his bail hearing heard?

Did he apply for bail? And when Sydney applied it was granted so i don’t see where you are going with this?

 

[guruisatiger]

I'm off to a barby this arvo and I will ponder it as I'm tucking into a tough old dry overcooked sirloin pork chop.

when i first read this ,,i thought you said you were off to a barber,,
and i thought where can you get a sirloin chop at a barbers especially a pork one..lol
sirloin horrible nasty piece of meat hard to chew even harder to swallow be carefull

 

[guruisatiger]

No, but if you do, be careful how you use your commas...........

and your colons

 

[Sir_Loin]

Did he apply for bail? And when Sydney applied it was granted so i don’t see where you are going with this?

why did he have to go to the Supreme Court to apply for bail? Why was he unable to attend his initial hearing?

cant cherry pick when it suits you

 

[THE THIN MAN]

Was he indigenous?

I have no idea how many of the people that have been jailed for bio-security breaches are indigenous, however people have been jailed before Sydney, so to infer all the incarceration are racially based is erroneous.

 

[THE THIN MAN]

There was zero chance Stack had the virus and there was no reason to lock him for quaranteen for 17 days.
WA's record on Indigenous issues is pretty bad and on the record so I agree with Jason Misfud

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[/QUOTE]
Are you inferring a different law for Sydney and a different law for everyone else?

He knew the terms which he was required to abide by when he entered WA.

He broke those terms and was arrested, just the same as other people who were jailed for the same offence.

Announcements | Western Australian Government

www.police.wa.gov.au

Excerpt
The 25-year-old man had flown from Adelaide to Perth on 11 December 2020 and was issued a direction to self-quarantine for 14 days at a city hotel. He was arrested by WA Police officers the following day after a routine compliance check at his hotel by members of the Self Quarantine Assurance Team (SQAT).

Excerpt
The man offered no valid or lawful reason for leaving the quarantine location and admitted to those breaches. He was taken to Perth Watch House and was remanded in custody.

Yesterday in the Perth Magistrates Court he pleaded guilty to 5 counts of Fail to Comply with an Emergency Management Act Direction. He was fined a total of $13,000, which he must pay before he is released from custody.

The man has subsequently returned a negative COVID-19 test and his quarantine period expired at 11.59PM on 25 December.

A WA Police spokesperson said anyone who attempts to compromise the health of our community by breaching directions can expect a strong and swift response.

“Based on yesterday’s court outcomes, these offenders can also expect a significant court-imposed penalty.”

 

[Aristotle Pickett the3rd]

[/QUOTE

Are you inferring a different law for Sydney and a different law for everyone else?

He knew the terms which he was required to abide by when he entered WA.

He broke those terms and was arrested, just the same as other people who were jailed for the same offence.
[/QUOTE]
He spent 30 minutes in Adelaide who had 3 cases.I agree with Jason Misfud who said it was unimaginative and unnecessarily punitive.

 

[Aristotle Pickett the3rd]

[/QUOTE

Are you inferring a different law for Sydney and a different law for everyone else?

He knew the terms which he was required to abide by when he entered WA.

He broke those terms and was arrested, just the same as other people who were jailed for the same offence.

Announcements | Western Australian Government

www.police.wa.gov.au

The man offered no valid or lawful reason for leaving the quarantine location and admitted to those breaches. He was taken to Perth Watch House and was remanded in custody.

Yesterday in the Perth Magistrates Court he pleaded guilty to 5 counts of Fail to Comply with an Emergency Management Act Direction. He was fined a total of $13,000, which he must pay before he is released from custody.

The man has subsequently returned a negative COVID-19 test and his quarantine period expired at 11.59PM on 25 December.

A WA Police spokesperson said anyone who attempts to compromise the health of our community by breaching directions can expect a strong and swift response.

“Based on yesterday’s court outcomes, these offenders can also expect a significant court-imposed penalty.”
[/QUOTE]
He spent 30 minutes in Adelaide who had 3 cases.I agree with Jason Misfud who said it was unimaginative and unnecessarily punitive.

 

[Aristotle Pickett the3rd]

Are you inferring a different law for Sydney and a different law for everyone else?

He knew the terms which he was required to abide by when he entered WA.

He broke those terms and was arrested, just the same as other people who were jailed for the same offence.

Announcements | Western Australian Government

www.police.wa.gov.au

The man offered no valid or lawful reason for leaving the quarantine location and admitted to those breaches. He was taken to Perth Watch House and was remanded in custody.

Yesterday in the Perth Magistrates Court he pleaded guilty to 5 counts of Fail to Comply with an Emergency Management Act Direction. He was fined a total of $13,000, which he must pay before he is released from custody.

The man has subsequently returned a negative COVID-19 test and his quarantine period expired at 11.59PM on 25 December.

A WA Police spokesperson said anyone who attempts to compromise the health of our community by breaching directions can expect a strong and swift response.

“Based on yesterday’s court outcomes, these offenders can also expect a significant court-imposed penalty.”

He spent 30 minutes in Adelaide who had 3 cases.I agree with Jason Misfud who said it was unimaginative and unnecessarily punitive.

 

[THE THIN MAN]

Are you inferring a different law for Sydney and a different law for everyone else?

He knew the terms which he was required to abide by when he entered WA.

He broke those terms and was arrested, just the same as other people who were jailed for the same offence.

Announcements | Western Australian Government

www.police.wa.gov.au

The man offered no valid or lawful reason for leaving the quarantine location and admitted to those breaches. He was taken to Perth Watch House and was remanded in custody.

Yesterday in the Perth Magistrates Court he pleaded guilty to 5 counts of Fail to Comply with an Emergency Management Act Direction. He was fined a total of $13,000, which he must pay before he is released from custody.

The man has subsequently returned a negative COVID-19 test and his quarantine period expired at 11.59PM on 25 December.

A WA Police spokesperson said anyone who attempts to compromise the health of our community by breaching directions can expect a strong and swift response.

“Based on yesterday’s court outcomes, these offenders can also expect a significant court-imposed penalty.”

He spent 30 minutes in Adelaide who had 3 cases.I agree with Jason Misfud who said it was unimaginative and unnecessarily punitive.
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Why should Sydney be treated differently from everybody else?

 

[Aristotle Pickett the3rd]

He spent 30 minutes in Adelaide who had 3 cases.I agree with Jason Misfud who said it was unimaginative and unnecessarily punitive.

Why should Sydney be treated differently from everybody else?
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Because he wasn't an overseas traveller, he has little chance of re-offending, his punishment was during Christmas and New Years so a week was enough and he has mental health issues and that sort of confinement exacerbates mental health issues.

 

[box070]

He spent 30 minutes in Adelaide who had 3 cases.I agree with Jason Misfud who said it was unimaginative and unnecessarily punitive.

Why should Sydney be treated differently from everybody else?
[/QUOTE]

no one is saying he should. It’s already an excessive punishment and he hasn’t been sentenced yet. People can deny it all they like but the WA legal system is a lot more harsh on young indigenous males then regular joe public. That’s a fact that indigenous leaders have been vocal about.

 

[THE THIN MAN]

Why should Sydney be treated differently from everybody else?

Because he wasn't an overseas traveller, he has little chance of re-offending, his punishment was during Christmas and New Years so a week was enough and he has mental health issues and that sort of confinement exacerbates mental health issues.
[/QUOTE]
Sydney did break Queensland bio-security restrictions and then WA bio-security restrictions.

To say he would not reoffend is supposition on your behalf, as for the mental health issues are you familiar with his problems?

 

[Sir_Loin]

Magistrate Benjamin White granted Ms D’Ubios bail, noting a trial could be months away and she was “highly unlikely” to get a prison sentence if convicted.

Flew in from a COVID hotspot in Spain. Walked out of hotel quarantine. Granted bail by the magistrate.

I guess is pays to be a COVID denier in WA

 

[Del65166]

I think most on here recognise that Stack was wrong in what he did, but maximum security seems very heavy handed to me. I would have thought there might have been a less aggressive stance to take. He is not a criminal other than by technicality. Mentally we have no idea how Stack will take this, it could send him in a spiral, after all prison is fairly synonymous with that, especially in indigenous kids.

Reading the WA papers, the prison is high security but Stack was out of solitary on the 24th Dec.

 

[Aristotle Pickett the3rd]

Because he wasn't an overseas traveller, he has little chance of re-offending, his punishment was during Christmas and New Years so a week was enough and he has mental health issues and that sort of confinement exacerbates mental health issues.

Sydney did break Queensland bio-security restrictions and then WA bio-security restrictions.

To say he would not reoffend is supposition on your behalf, as for the mental health issues are you familiar with his problems?
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It's pretty obvious from what Peos is saying that he is struggling mentally and you'd have to be a bit off in the head to break quaranteen twice.

 

[Sir_Loin]

Reading the WA papers, the prison is high security but Stack was out of solitary on the 24th Dec.

how can that be when he was supposed to have his quarantine period reset? Odd.

 

[THE THIN MAN]

Why should Sydney be treated differently from everybody else?

no one is saying he should. It’s already an excessive punishment and he hasn’t been sentenced yet. People can deny it all they like but the WA legal system is a lot more harsh on young indigenous males then regular joe public. That’s a fact that indigenous leaders have been vocal about.
[/QUOTE]
What about the non indigenous people in custody from the same offense?

While I agree WA legal system could use reform, to say this is solely racially based is wrong.

If all the other people who had been incarcerated for the same offence were indigenous then I would agree.

But the facts prove otherwise

 

[Phar Ace]

He spent 30 minutes in Adelaide who had 3 cases.I agree with Jason Misfud who said it was unimaginative and unnecessarily punitive.

Why should Sydney be treated differently from everybody else?
[/QUOTE]

He shouldn't, but an Adelaide touchdown and take off again shouldn't subject anyone who would otherwise be free move around Perth if the flight had been direct from Melbourne. If there was a bio-secure waiting room at Adelaide Airport, and travellers had that option to use it, that would be much more logical and IMAGINATIVE than simply characterising every traveler as a South Australian becuase they were there in the Airport for an hour or two. Cause and effect!

 

[box070]

no one is saying he should. It’s already an excessive punishment and he hasn’t been sentenced yet. People can deny it all they like but the WA legal system is a lot more harsh on young indigenous males then regular joe public. That’s a fact that indigenous leaders have been vocal about.

What about the non indigenous people in custody from the same offense?

While I agree WA legal system could use reform, to say this is solely racially based is wrong.

If all the other people who had been incarcerated for the same offence were indigenous then I would agree.

But the facts prove otherwise
[/QUOTE]

See above that bird from Spain. How long have the others been incarcerated for? Have they been sentenced? What’s their sentence? 17 days is excessive no matter how you look at it. He was fortunate to get the bail hearing Friday by reports. Do others get treated the same? Bet they don’t.

 

[SunshineBoy]

why did he have to go to the Supreme Court to apply for bail? Why was he unable to attend his initial hearing?

cant cherry pick when it suits you

Who is cherry picking? They should have had a bio secure room at Adelaide airport.....maybe just maybe if he had stayed where he said he was going to stay .......and not the Northbridge nightclub district on his way to get a Covid test at q-40 in the morning , we wouldn’t be where we are.

how is his problem with alchohol and authority the WA govts problem, when the magistrate asked if he understood what was being said why didn’t he say no your honour can I get a lawyer, and apply for bail, rather than. ‘Yep”

 

[box070]

That arm might be what they mean by physical rehabilitation

 

[Bazzar]

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Dont bother tagging me again.

Just like your other accounts I've no interest in anything you post or say.