Mega Thread The 2017 'Buckley's Chances' Thread

[doodles98]

Did you get a look at his Foxfooty outburst?

Ridiculous!

Hypothetically, what would you offload your gorilla on Gimpy? Buckley getting the axe or Buckley coaching on in 2018?

Falling memberships and attendances are the only thing that might prize ED out of his comfy throne.
Then he can host a new gameshow. "Who wants to be a Collingwood supporter"?

 

[Help My Club]

If we beat West Coast next week, it will be interesting to see what the media's take will be on Bucks position going into next year.

It will be indeed Dead Eye.

I believe Collingwood are a better than even money chance against WC in Melbourne, who are just insipid away from home.

There are some quarters out there who say Buckley is already cooked - if so - then the result is irrelevant on that front. I for one have no idea which way they will go. If our illustrious President still holds a candle for Buckley into 2018, then these games are very important. It won't take much for this game show host to sway the masses, as he has done successfully over the past 5 odd years. As bizarre as it sounds, 2 wins in a row might just do it.

But then again, Buckley being reappointed in 2018 may not be the worst outcome (sorry Gimp and others). Make no mistake, I don't wan't him at the club any longer than necessary however I would argue that he is the least guilty of the 4 perpetrators involved in his original and ongoing appointment.

For what it's worth, IMO hereunder is the list of guilty parties in order:

1 Pert - manipulative
2 McGuire - emotive conflicted (throw Kelly in there as well)
3 The Board - insipid self interested
4 Buckley - in my humble opinion, Buckley is only guilty of being Buckley. A square peg (himself) in a round hole (in a role that requires man management of a diverse group of personalities). Again, IMO, he was always going to fail in this role and the tangible evidence would suggest this has played out to script.

So if Buckley is removed at the end of the year (as is warranted mind you), do the other 3 parties get away scott free? I would argue that this is not right. So maybe extending Buckley will expose the other 3 parties, and rightly so, because I can almost guarantee that this list under this coach will not materially improve relative to other competing clubs out there (excepting say CG, North and Brisbane) in 2018 and beyond (naturally others will have opposing views). And hence, we will likely stagnate in the bottom 4/6 for the next few years. Maybe this is what needs to happen so as to force permanent and positive material change at Collingwood.

 

[BringouttheGimp]

Hypothetically, what would you offload your gorilla on Gimpy? Buckley getting the axe or Buckley coaching on in 2018?

Falling memberships and attendances are the only thing that might prize ED out of his comfy throne.
Then he can host a new gameshow. "Who wants to be a Collingwood supporter"?

The bubbles burst bud. You can carry on giving everyone the impression you're a hot shot.. you can only wear Hugo Boss shoes for a while until everyone realises your walk don't match your shoes.

 

[doodles98]

The bubbles burst bud. You can carry on giving everyone the impression you're a hot shot.. you can only wear Hugo Boss shoes for a while until everyone realises your walk don't match your shoes.

Not a bad gimpism there. But answer the question bud. Where are you parking your gorilla?

 

[BringouttheGimp]

Not a bad gimpism there. But answer the question bud. Where are you parking your gorilla?

That being said.. I just offloaded a gorilla on Buckley coaching next yr and having romantic dinners with McGuire at the Vue De Monde.

 

[10571z]

If we beat West Coast next week, it will be interesting to see what the media's take will be on Bucks position going into next year.

The season is over. Big deal if we beat the eagles.

You can't have a horrible season and win a few meaningless junk games at the bank end and expect to keep your job.

 

[TW Sherrin]

The season is over. Big deal if we beat the eagles.

You can't have a horrible season and win a few meaningless junk games at the bank end and expect to keep your job.

yes you can.

 

[DT_fanatic]

The season is over. Big deal if we beat the eagles.

You can't have a horrible season and win a few meaningless junk games at the bank end and expect to keep your job.

I don't think the upcoming games are meaningless. We play several teams who are either in the top 8 or striving to be. If we can win these games there would be a lot to take out of that.




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[Matt_352]

yes you can.

No you cant and if he is re appointed then the people running the club are a joke

 

[PhiloBeddoe]

The bubbles burst bud. You can carry on giving everyone the impression you're a hot shot.. you can only wear Hugo Boss shoes for a while until everyone realises your walk don't match your shoes.

 

[BringouttheGimp]

Not a bad gimpism there. But answer the question bud. Where are you parking your gorilla?

What commoners don't seem to understand is how bougeios look after their fellow bougeios.

Why do you think Buckley is rumoured for a high rank position at the AFL? Because he's a commoner? Ti Les re.. he's a bougeios mate.

 

[BringouttheGimp]

If all you ever here about is how clubs only worry about what they think of themselves internally.. then why are you harping on about the media McGuire? Hmmmm.. let your bougeios guard down did ya? Slap yourself during the Foxfooty break after your well thought out outburst eh?

Very very interesting!

 

[Unknown Identity]

The season is over. Big deal if we beat the eagles.

You can't have a horrible season and win a few meaningless junk games at the bank end and expect to keep your job.

While i agree with you to an extent, we play WC, Adelaide, Port, Geelong and Melbourne who all are in contention for finals.

While you may view them as junk games, those 5 clubs certainly do not and wins against them should be regarded highly.

I think Buckley should have already been moved on, but if he comes away with 3-4 wins from those 5 games he will keep his job. Guaranteed.

 

[loki04]

I don't think the upcoming games are meaningless. We play several teams who are either in the top 8 or striving to be. If we can win these games there would be a lot to take out of that.




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They are junk games for the year 2017 we beat most of the finals teams last season dod it help us this year?

They are also games that hurt the clubs draft prospects...or trade value if we choose trade it.

 

[Countrypie]

If all you ever here about is how clubs only worry about what they think of themselves internally.. then why are you harping on about the media McGuire? Hmmmm.. let your bougeios guard down did ya? Slap yourself during the Foxfooty break after your well thought out outburst eh?

Very very interesting!

Where can I listen to tehse pearls of wisdom from the Emperorr?

 

[loki04]

While i agree with you to an extent, we play WC, Adelaide, Port, Geelong and Melbourne who all are in contention for finals.

While you may view them as junk games, those 5 clubs certainly do not and wins against them should be regarded highly.

I think Buckley should have already been moved on, but if he comes away with 3-4 wins from those 5 games he will keep his job. Guaranteed.

He will keep his job regardless imo. 2 years extension is my bet.

 

[loki04]

No you cant and if he is re appointed then the people running the club are a joke

Its happening bud. The rumours were circulating around the bye that he'll get 2 year extension. By hearing the way eds been speaking I reckon it will happen.

 

[Countrypie]

Its happening bud. The rumours were circulating around the bye that he'll get 2 year extension. By hearing the way eds been speaking I reckon it will happen.

Surely not? I've been fairly neutral for most of the year and on occassions thought he'd probably stay, but after the last month you'd think no way

 

[PieBeast]

Looks like we've come to end of the line with this thread. Why stop at the coach? Let's start sniping the bloke who literally brought us back from the brink of financial collapse.

Scrapping over the line against a side as shit as us that was also down 2 vital players for most of the game all that took for you to abandon the dark side???

Thought you were a bit more stoic than that

 

[loki04]

Surely not? I've been fairly neutral for most of the year and on occassions thought he'd probably stay, but after the last month you'd think no way

That was the rumour going at the bye. Unless its changed since.

I reckon they are only waiting to see how these last 8 games pan out if he goes at 4 from 8 GC being first win then they will annouce his extension.
That would give him 9 wins for the year and likely see us finish 10th to 12th bracket.

 

[Countrypie]

That was the rumour going at the bye. Unless its changed since.

I reckon they are only waiting to see how these last 8 games pan out if he goes at 4 from 8 GC being first win then they will annouce his extension.
That would give him 9 wins for the year and likely see us finish 10th to 12th bracket.

Can't see the logic - has to be at least 5 probably 6 to start a discussion

 

[loki04]

Can't see the logic - has to be at least 5 probably 6 to start a discussion

Because Ed is backing him in.

 

[swiftdog]

Take a look at the video of the players singing the song after the game. It was certainly sung with a lot of gusto compared to normal. Take a look at the celebrations after Reid's last quarter snap also. Regardless of whether we think the rest of the season is full of junk games or not it's pretty clear the players will take pride winning as many games as possible to round out the year.

For the people that want Buckley gone, as a hypothetical, if the players wanted Buckley to stay, would that change your mind at all? We're all aware that allegedly Buckley was coaching "Mick's boys" at the start of his reign. This might have affected those years somewhat. It's obvious that the results haven't been on the board for the last 4 years but if the players are buying into Buckley's vision and truly believe that finals aren't far away would getting rid of Buckley be a mistake?

FWIW, I'm still on the fence, likely until around 23, and this isn't me trying to make a pro-Buckley case. Just a possible hypothetical situation.

 

[Countrypie]

Because Ed is backing him in.

As, I said, can't see the logic. FWIW I think Bucks could go elsewhere and be quite successful. Gold Coast looks tailor made for him, but it isn't working for a variety of reasons, he's better off out of it for his own sanity

 

[mike123]

Something I've never figured out - if we mark the ball 70metres out from goal with no clear options, why do we regularly and intentionally kick it into the pocket instead of the top of the goal square?

If we mark the kick = tough shot on goal.
If we shark the ball off the pack = tough shot on goal.

Are we really that scared of our opponent's rebound that we need to play the "percentages" even in our own 50?


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It's harder for the opposition to knock through for a behind and reload from a kick in, it usually gets knocked out for a boundary throw in where we can kick it in easier.


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