Opinion The all new 2013 trading & drafting thread

[Jonts]

I keep feeling that if McCarthy is still there at 13

we will read his name so fast we will have to repeat it so people understand

 

[rellim]

So basically everything bar our interest in white and polec is rubbish.

Largely, yes. Jesse White, Didak and Chapman were all a pretty emphatic no. Robinson was not quite as emphatic but still seems very unlikely. Seemed very keen on Matt White.

 

[Elite Crow]

Link or details?

In the match centre there's an icon for live audio

 

[ash_78]

In the match centre there's an icon for live audio

When clicked, it only displays a Hawks v Freo link (which plays with no audio). I'm on Android.

 

[Noobz0r]

I keep feeling that if McCarthy is still there at 13

we will read his name so fast we will have to repeat it so people understand

Especially if we land White and Polec.

 

[bringbackbucky]

Jesse White was an emphatic NO when it comes to swapping pick 13 for it.

 

[BrockBlitz]

I keep feeling that if McCarthy is still there at 13

we will read his name so fast we will have to repeat it so people understand

I'm 'ok' with this if there isn't a slider....Marcus, slide you bastard ! Slide!

 

[finbarr]

In what universe is Jesse White worth a first round pick?

 

[Elite Crow]

Where is that? Have clicked the headphones and it only shows the grand final under audio (am using the Android version).

That's it, just click on it. They haven't changed the title

 

[Portology]

The problem is that then Franklin doesn't have to accept the trade, so Hawthorn would be stuck with the 10 years and also having to offload some players to find the salary cap space.

Sydney cleverly generating another 'legitimate' loophole IMO.

Sydney just have him play for X years, back end load the deal as needed, include the "major injury insurance" (Buddy gets paid out if he "breaks down" to quote Swans boss) then (this being the unwritten gentlemen's agreement part) Buddy 'retires' at a mutually acceptable time then signs on as an AC and highly visible club marketing person on coin that doesn't come out of the Cap. Cap dollars go back in the bucket, Buddy gets the coin he wants (as opposed to the headline number), Buddy gets to be where he wants to be, gets an after-footy career, and the Hawks can't possibly match the headline offer.

Sydney offer lot more than Buddy's bottom line, never end up paying it, which makes it impossible for Hawthorn to match the deal.

Of course Buddy could destroy things by walking away or whistleblowing, or a future administration could have a run in with him, or just an ethical or philosophical difference with the arrangement but what are those risks against (say) a flag and a GF appearance in the next 5 years. Look at the TV ratings for the three grand finals Sydney played in in the last decade. Very interesting if you're a potential sponsor.

Agree though - the AFL has the right to reject the deal if they think it might 'break' the Swans, based on what they have 'promised to pay', even if that is a bogus number. Limiting a contract offer to another club's RFA to 5 years closes the loophole somewhat but not entirely. Similar in structure to the pre-FA deals with Cornes+Brogan to GWS - offered AC roles after they retire 'again'. Though that situation exploited a different 'loophole' (if they retired the first time around with the intent of returning to AFL outside the draft).

 

[FishingRick04]

some KPF called Marsh just ran the 2nd fastest time for the 20m sprint at the draft camp

 

[blackdiamond]

There is nothing stopping Buddy reducing his salary later on down the track as well, you see it all the time where players take a pay cut to keep players at their club.

 

[Phhht]

I keep feeling that if McCarthy is still there at 13

we will read his name so fast we will have to repeat it so people understand

I'm not so sure. McCarthy is a project tall . Sure he has talent with heaps of potential but in terms of a KPF, he has a lot of developing to do. Next years crop of talls sounds extremely promising and perhaps a little more 'developed'. I dont see that much difference (in terms of development time) between McCarthy and one of the potential talls from next year. However 12months is a long time in AFL footy.

I wont be overly disappointed if we draft McCarthy this year though.

 

[Janus]

McCarthy could be anything - he has the raw talent but just needs time. Won't be complaining if we pick him up at all.

 

[YoungsterPA]

Freeman ran a 2.81 at the Draft testing

If we don't pick McCarthy I'd love us to pick up a player with that type of burst speed

 

[Zakk Wylde]

some KPF called Marsh just ran the 2nd fastest time for the 20m sprint at the draft camp

He's not a legit key forward... Undersized athletic type.

Freakish ability/speed however.

 

[BrockBlitz]

Freeman ran a 2.81 at the Draft testing

If we don't pick McCarthy I'd love us to pick up a player with that type of burst speed

Where are you guys getting this from ? is there a link or trade radio ?

 

[FishingRick04]

He's not a legit key forward... Undersized athletic type.

Freakish ability/speed however.

On draft radio they said he's 194 KPF. Knightmare had him at 191 cm

 

[Zakk Wylde]

On draft radio they said he's 194 KPF. Knightmare had him at 191 cm

Wow, he's grown if he's officially measured that. Stock rise.

 

[PJ Power]

The fact that Hinkley was still keen on Polec indicates the club has not heard a "no" from him yet.

 

[FishingRick04]

Wow, he's grown if he's officially measured that. Stock rise.

Talking about him now

New, RAW, fast. 2.78 sec
Comparing to Daniel Merrit speed
So defender or forward

Ben Brown best in agility

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

PORT ADELAIDE expects to retain unrestricted free agent Tom Logan and will not pursue a discarded veteran such as Alan Didak.

Power coach Ken Hinkley confirmed there was a contract on the table for Logan, a standout performer in the club's elimination final win over Collingwood, and expected he would take it.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-02/power-wants-stayers-hinkley

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

http://www.oneweekatatime.com.au/afl-offseason-port-adelaide/

wow give this a read, the person has no clue.

 

[JuniorBurger]

Robbie Gray and pick 29 for Melksham. Lolol

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[It Just Is]

Sick of the dipshits on Trade Radio thinking Shaun Hampson has trade value. Trade him for Longer, trade him and a 2nd round pick for Boyd or Patton. Shut the **** up.