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Geeze Richo, you know it's a horrific take when you post a tweet potting Kane and 99% of the comments are in support of the Corn. Never seen that before!
Yes richo, because they’re premiership captains they’re exempt of any criticism or banter doing media
Exactly having a good football career doesn't give you a free ride in the media. Cotchin chose the media path and it was as much a knock on the Seven technology. So Richo would of been okay with it if the guy didn't play football?
I thought it was hilarious, best work Kane has done. The Front Bar makes fun of people all the time.
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I think you mean it SHOULDN'T give you a free ride. But it seems to.
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I'd like the boys club at 7 to dig a bit deeper into which former players should actually become special comments people. Absurd to have both cotchin and Selwood spouting such pedestrian offerings.
Their criteria is pretty much if someone was a good player who played in a lot of premierships as a captain they'll make a great analyst.
Ridiculously flawed and already disproven but here we are.
Watson has filled this role for years and for his son to land a gig reeks of nepotism. Jobe is entertaining though if only through the way he takes on the English language and kicks the s**t through it.
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Ch9 have done a better job picking their ex-player analysts like Kornes and Bartel but they don't have any games to commentate on like Ch7
Having ex-players with little or no broadcast training is never about the analysis. Maybe that's what they sell it on, but it's not to the suits at the channel. The players are merely posters; images of heroes for people look at and feel comfortable.
If one of them turns out to have some verbal talent AND a analytical mind, that is an accidental bonus. Having a charismatic personality is long odds in the extreme.
If one of them turns out to have some verbal talent AND a analytical mind, that is an accidental bonus. Having a charismatic personality is long odds in the extreme.
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Channel 7 want family, non controversial puppets who talk about how great everything is and create no controversy.
Ling, Cotchin, Jones, Selwood, Watson etc, some of the most boring bland personalities you'll hear in any sport in the world.
Ling, Cotchin, Jones, Selwood, Watson etc, some of the most boring bland personalities you'll hear in any sport in the world.
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I felt Hodge behind the scenes at Hawthorn was an analytical mind and an inspiring captain to listen to. Feels like 7 have groomed him into a stale cabbage also.
Must wonder why Sewell didn't fit the mold and became an ABC man. To steer it back to channel 9 territory, Bartel has ended up there despite actually being a good special comment provider.
Must wonder why Sewell didn't fit the mold and became an ABC man. To steer it back to channel 9 territory, Bartel has ended up there despite actually being a good special comment provider.
Bartel is the rising star at 3AW as well as his role now extends to hosting a Sunday segment and being a fill-in for their non-sport content.
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Robbo not amused.
Kane Cornes has the knowledge to be one of footy’s best analysts. But as MARK ROBINSON writes, this time the outspoken TV and radio personality went too far and played the bully.
Kane Cornes wears many hats in the media as an inquisitive, insightful and thorough football analyst.
Right now, though, he’s wearing the class clown hat. And it fits perfectly.
His take-down of Trent Cotchin last Sunday, he said, was nothing but an attempt to take the piss out of Cotchin and Channel 7.
When Matthew Richardson defended Cotchin on social media, Cornes accused Richo of being too sensitive.
It’s a narcissistic response: Be the provocateur and then be critical of the person calling it out.
A cheap laugh at somebody’s expense and it’s a form of bullying.
It was Triple M’s playbook as well. They’d mock someone and when that someone responded, they’d get all uppity and fire back when they had started the fight in the first place.
Bullying is an ugly word.
At schools, parents and teachers spend far too much time trying to protect the vulnerable and educate their tormentors. Bullying is expected from kids and adolescents, because their brains are not yet fully developed.
But from a 41-year-old man with a high profile on Channel 9?
Not to mention a backdrop of sfellowing panellists, acting like the cool kids at the back of the class while one their mates sets fire to someone’s hair. Oh, Nine should be so proud.
Those same people will likely say “hello” to Cotchin next time they see him at the footy. And act all friendly and innocent, without their sfellowing gang, of course.
They should apologise to Cotchin, instead.
The Nine boys are clearly great mates and “taking the piss” out of each other – and it’s often high-quality humour – in their own domain is the difference. What they don’t comprehend is that it’s not a defence when “taking the piss” out of someone else.
Cotchin can fight his own battles, that’s if he even cares. He showed that as skipper through one of the greatest periods in Richmond’s history, where respect was earned and given.
The young Seven staffer who compiled the social media post – which didn’t go to air – is probably less resilient and likely to be disheartened by the fallout.
Maybe Cornes was responding to Cotchin’s clip of him made a couple of weeks back, when Cotchin said Cornes was still salty because the Tigers beat him in his 300th game.
Maybe Cornes just felt like being a smart-arse.
The media as a collective doesn’t miss. Newspapers, TV and radio drench the landscape with previews and reviews, hot-takes and the outlandish.
One TV segment this week was critical of Collingwood coach Craig McRae because he spoke about himself after the St Kilda game and didn’t praise the Saints.
Coaches have a habit of protecting their players in this world of mass media saturation and condemnation, and even that drew criticism. McRae’s old coach Leigh Matthews thought it was ridiculous that McRae apologised for ignoring the Saints.
As Richo said, the bar is “getting lower and lower’’.
For sure, Cornes is a garish personality and his football opinions help drive clicks and debate.
Although he is heavy on provocation for what he perceives as mistakes and failings from coaches and players, his knowledge of the game is top shelf.
And, with a 300-game career supporting him, he has the credentials and confidence to be considered one of the big voices in commentary, if not the biggest.
People say they dislike him, but those same people probably crave what he says. It’s because he pricks people’s emotions and, because of that, he’s good for the game.
Seven’s rebooted show Talking Footy, which is hosted by James Brayshaw and has Cotchin, Joel Selwood and Tim Watson as panel members, is a work in progress.
It is far more analytical, and thus not as lively and bouncy as the Sunday Footy Show. And being, what, 10 shows old, it’s trying to find its comfortable groove.
Cotchin, who retired from playing at the end of last year, is knowledgeable and a work in progress. As is Selwood, who is making a fist of it in his first regular TV gig. Just as Cornes was a work in progress when he first dipped his toe into television.
Cornes has since added his schtick to the role. One SEN mainstay once likened him to the great Lou Richards, in that he says stuff that he doesn’t really believe, but says it anyway to set free the lunatics. That might be true, but it must be said, Cornes is also a serious analyst.
He got the Cotchin piss-take wrong. It was a juvenile assassination.
True, everyone in the football media has said or written something that, at the time, seemed funny or informed, only to wish they had their time again.
My hand is high in the air. At those times, you need your coat pulled.
Cornes might think he didn’t overstep and that’s fine. And he’ll probably think this column is also an over-reaction. That’s fine, too.
But cheap shots disguised as “harmless fun” are so Sammy Newman.
Let’s hope Cornes’s 17-year-old son, Eddy, who has launched his own sports podcast, as revealed in the Adelaide Advertiser, is spared the same sort of ridicule.
Good luck to the lad by the way. Despite the old man letting himself down this time, Eddy is fortunate to have big shoes to follow.
Kane Cornes has the knowledge to be one of footy’s best analysts. But as MARK ROBINSON writes, this time the outspoken TV and radio personality went too far and played the bully.
Kane Cornes wears many hats in the media as an inquisitive, insightful and thorough football analyst.
Right now, though, he’s wearing the class clown hat. And it fits perfectly.
His take-down of Trent Cotchin last Sunday, he said, was nothing but an attempt to take the piss out of Cotchin and Channel 7.
When Matthew Richardson defended Cotchin on social media, Cornes accused Richo of being too sensitive.
It’s a narcissistic response: Be the provocateur and then be critical of the person calling it out.
A cheap laugh at somebody’s expense and it’s a form of bullying.
It was Triple M’s playbook as well. They’d mock someone and when that someone responded, they’d get all uppity and fire back when they had started the fight in the first place.
Bullying is an ugly word.
At schools, parents and teachers spend far too much time trying to protect the vulnerable and educate their tormentors. Bullying is expected from kids and adolescents, because their brains are not yet fully developed.
But from a 41-year-old man with a high profile on Channel 9?
Not to mention a backdrop of sfellowing panellists, acting like the cool kids at the back of the class while one their mates sets fire to someone’s hair. Oh, Nine should be so proud.
Those same people will likely say “hello” to Cotchin next time they see him at the footy. And act all friendly and innocent, without their sfellowing gang, of course.
They should apologise to Cotchin, instead.
The Nine boys are clearly great mates and “taking the piss” out of each other – and it’s often high-quality humour – in their own domain is the difference. What they don’t comprehend is that it’s not a defence when “taking the piss” out of someone else.
Cotchin can fight his own battles, that’s if he even cares. He showed that as skipper through one of the greatest periods in Richmond’s history, where respect was earned and given.
The young Seven staffer who compiled the social media post – which didn’t go to air – is probably less resilient and likely to be disheartened by the fallout.
Maybe Cornes was responding to Cotchin’s clip of him made a couple of weeks back, when Cotchin said Cornes was still salty because the Tigers beat him in his 300th game.
Maybe Cornes just felt like being a smart-arse.
The media as a collective doesn’t miss. Newspapers, TV and radio drench the landscape with previews and reviews, hot-takes and the outlandish.
One TV segment this week was critical of Collingwood coach Craig McRae because he spoke about himself after the St Kilda game and didn’t praise the Saints.
Coaches have a habit of protecting their players in this world of mass media saturation and condemnation, and even that drew criticism. McRae’s old coach Leigh Matthews thought it was ridiculous that McRae apologised for ignoring the Saints.
As Richo said, the bar is “getting lower and lower’’.
For sure, Cornes is a garish personality and his football opinions help drive clicks and debate.
Although he is heavy on provocation for what he perceives as mistakes and failings from coaches and players, his knowledge of the game is top shelf.
And, with a 300-game career supporting him, he has the credentials and confidence to be considered one of the big voices in commentary, if not the biggest.
People say they dislike him, but those same people probably crave what he says. It’s because he pricks people’s emotions and, because of that, he’s good for the game.
Seven’s rebooted show Talking Footy, which is hosted by James Brayshaw and has Cotchin, Joel Selwood and Tim Watson as panel members, is a work in progress.
It is far more analytical, and thus not as lively and bouncy as the Sunday Footy Show. And being, what, 10 shows old, it’s trying to find its comfortable groove.
Cotchin, who retired from playing at the end of last year, is knowledgeable and a work in progress. As is Selwood, who is making a fist of it in his first regular TV gig. Just as Cornes was a work in progress when he first dipped his toe into television.
Cornes has since added his schtick to the role. One SEN mainstay once likened him to the great Lou Richards, in that he says stuff that he doesn’t really believe, but says it anyway to set free the lunatics. That might be true, but it must be said, Cornes is also a serious analyst.
He got the Cotchin piss-take wrong. It was a juvenile assassination.
True, everyone in the football media has said or written something that, at the time, seemed funny or informed, only to wish they had their time again.
My hand is high in the air. At those times, you need your coat pulled.
Cornes might think he didn’t overstep and that’s fine. And he’ll probably think this column is also an over-reaction. That’s fine, too.
But cheap shots disguised as “harmless fun” are so Sammy Newman.
Let’s hope Cornes’s 17-year-old son, Eddy, who has launched his own sports podcast, as revealed in the Adelaide Advertiser, is spared the same sort of ridicule.
Good luck to the lad by the way. Despite the old man letting himself down this time, Eddy is fortunate to have big shoes to follow.
Well done Robbo for giving the story more oxygen a week later.
Yeesh.
Yeesh.
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And then brings Cornes 17yo son into it to add in another cheap shot
If Channel 7 are looking at Kane's clip and sooking about it rather than thinking they need to get better then they aren't being serious as a football broadcaster
Topkent
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Imagine being this much of a fat ******* Sook
Ah yes, the beacon of virtue that is Robbo. Didn't he take pot shots at Alex Fasolo in article years ago questioning his mental health issues?
Generally, if you have the opposite opinion of Robbo, you're correct.
Do they even like Tony Jones? Always so smarmy.
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In Robbo's defence he was drunk for most of that week.
They’re as cocky as *, as arrogant as they come, but they’ve got the balance right as much as I hate to admit it. Having no mcguire influence is a huge tick. The best football show for serious chat/banter.
It was hilarious Robbo and outside of Robbo and Richo, seems to have been taken in the right context. Why do these two need to take offense on behalf of someone else? If Cotchin was really that offended by it, I assume we would have heard from him by now.
