Opinion The 'Carlton related stuff that doesn't need it's own thread' thread Part 2

[BlueAbroad]

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[TENACIOUS]

What do you make of the supposed call, that we are the only team not playing a zone defence? Is it true, are we a pioneer or are we stupid?

We are stupid, isn't any pioneering in what we do..
Zone defence allows for locking the ball in, team work and less structure failures..

The man on man defence, kills you if you have any breakdown or ball watchers (Plowman & Jones)
Because all teams are that highly skilled to find the lose man, they just cut you to bits and expose your midfield and defence on turnover..

Our 3 lines seem to have no cohesion and all work independently..
The game plan is a shambles at the moment.. But is so close to being something special.

Personally I'd look hard at Melbourne for defensive structure and Sydney for Defensive attack..
I'm also a fan of Teague's speed in the ball approach.. But we need Plan B, to learn to slow it down
and maintain possession when getting pressured with momentum swings..

If Teague could make those tweaks he could make us an awesome team..
But for a Defender as a player, he seems to totally disregard defence and wants full on shoot outs
(unless it's a learning curve to score more)

 

[AceAndy]

Do you stop playing your gameplan because you're not currently able to execute it?

Absolutely , a gameplan/strategy you havent got the resources to execute is pretty much useless imo.

A gameplan/strategy needs to make the most of what you have got.

 

[Ash24]

Saw this on Facebook, thought it was funny...

 

[Gethelred]

Absolutely , a gameplan/strategy you havent got the resources to execute is pretty much useless imo.

A gameplan/strategy needs to make the most of what you have got.

Is there no mitigating factor in there? What if the reason you cannot execute your gameplan is down to the injuries to key players you have out?

Where do you draw the line, is I suppose what I'm asking.

 

[AceAndy]

Is there no mitigating factor in there? What if the reason you cannot execute your gameplan is down to the injuries to key players you have out?

Where do you draw the line, is I suppose what I'm asking.

Yeah fair question.

 

[Gethelred]

Reckon TDK is a shoe in to take one at some stage.

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He's got a fair leap on him. Wouldn't be surprised.

 

[Koutamightafides]

Just found this , someone is confident .

 

[mediumsizered]

The only way I can see him coming into the backline is for Parks, who I personally would prefer instead.

I would see Gov playing a similar role to Marchy. Who is filling that role at the moment? Or isn't it being filled at all?

 

[Ash24]

I would see Gov playing a similar role to Marchy. Who is filling that role at the moment? Or isn't it being filled at all?

I think that's sort of why we brought in Parks. I personally think that a backline of Weiters, Jones, Gov and Parks is too tall.

 

[katmanblue]

Just found this , someone is confident . [emoji23]

Don't worry, it's just an iron on.

 

[Percy2257]

There’s 2.5 mins to go in the Poet v Bulldogs game in Adelaide. The Bulldogs are 20 points up and home. they beat us by less than that. Maybe Teague is on the money when he repeatedly says that our team has ability. But we need to strengthen our defensive play.
Which defenders from other clubs do we need?

 

[katmanblue]

There’s 2.5 mins to go in the Poet v Bulldogs game in Adelaide. The Bulldogs are 20 points up and home. they beat us by less than that. Maybe Teague is on the money when he repeatedly says that our team has ability. But we need to strengthen our defensive play.
Which defenders from other clubs do we need?

Luke Hodge line coach

 

[Juddrockz]

Should throw Williams to HBF and move Saad to the wing . Saad will be a lot more damaging off abwing I reckon

I have a feeling Saad may be a late out.

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

Which defenders from other clubs do we need

Wut. You just said we do have ability. We don't need any other defenders. We're fantastic down back.

 

[mrjones]

Michael's team fought out another win today against Ormeau.
He had 6 marks and 3 tackles as a forward. Was a bit unlucky was about to kick his first goal but a free kick was played to his teammate.
One of the Ormeau players got stuck into him and he gave a bit back and then ran back to position, the Ormeau players shoved him in the back and he won a free kick for his team.
Little man ran his arse off all day putting pressure on the Ormeau defenders and ended up getting player of the match.
Super proud and a bunch of parents were full of praise for his efforts.
Love seeing him belong and invested in such a great little team.
Sorry for the long text but I'm buzzing for him.
Thanks for coming John & Julie to support him.

 

[katmanblue]

I have a feeling Saad may be a late out.

I have a feeling....
.. nevermind, was just gas.

 

[footyfan1978]

Just found this , someone is confident .

Would be the biggest comeback in a season to win a premiership since we did it in 1945.
Three wins in opening 9 rounds and also a 100 point loss in round 3.

Rd 9 Ladder
SM	9​	32​	127.6​
NM	9​	28​	122.2​
FO	9​	28​	119.0​
CW	9​	24​	111.7​
RI	9​	24​	105.7​
ES	9​	22​	127.4​
FI	9​	18​	118.6​
ME	9​	12​	95.3​
CA	9​	12​	84.0​
SK	9​	8​	71.9​
GE	9​	4​	76.4​
HW	9​	4​	73.6​

1945 Ladder

LP	Club	P	W	L	D	FOR	AGN	%	PTS
1	South Melbourne	20	16	4	0	1840	1396	131.81	64
2	Collingwood	20	15	5	0	1902	1477	128.78	60
3	North Melbourne	20	13	7	0	1696	1526	111.14	52
4	Carlton	20	13	7	0	1718	1607	106.91	52
5	Footscray	20	12	8	0	1717	1576	108.95	48
6	Fitzroy	20	11	8	1	1730	1452	119.15	46
7	Richmond	20	11	9	0	1802	1742	103.44	44
8	Essendon	20	10	9	1	1837	1614	113.82	42
9	Melbourne	20	8	12	0	1683	1699	99.06	32
10	Hawthorn	20	6	14	0	1665	1944	85.65	24
11	Geelong	20	2	18	0	1415	2180	64.91	8
12	St. Kilda	20	2	18	0	1305	2097	62.23	8

First Semi-final

	Q1	Q2	Q3	Q4	Score	Date / Result	Ground	Crowd
Carlton	5.3	8.4	13.7	14.10	94	Sat 8-Sep-1945 2:30 pm	Princes Park	54,846
North Melbourne	0.4	1.12	2.13	8.20	68	Carlton won by 26 points

Preliminary Final

	Q1	Q2	Q3	Q4	Score	Date / Result	Ground	Crowd
Collingwood	5.2	6.4	11.7	12.8	80	Sat 22-Sep-1945 2:30 pm	Princes Park	41,305
Carlton	1.0	4.7	6.9	13.12	90	Carlton won by 10 points

Grand Final

	Q1	Q2	Q3	Q4	Score	Date / Result	Ground	Crowd
Carlton	2.4	7.5	12.9	15.13	103	Sat 29-Sep-1945 2:50 pm	Princes Park	62,986
South Melbourne	0.5	6.9	8.10	10.15	75	Carlton won by 28 points

 

[Percy2257]

Wut. You just said we do have ability. We don't need any other defenders. We're fantastic down back.

If we are so good down back why teams repeatedly get high scores against us?

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

If we are so good down back why teams repeatedly get high scores against us?

I thought that was obvious to anyone and everyone. Our between the arcs pressure is non existent, surely I don't need to spell it out further.

 

[Percy2257]

I thought that was obvious to anyone and everyone. Our between the arcs pressure is non existent, surely I don't need to spell it out further.

You do. Keep going

 

[Gethelred]

Justin Leppitsch

... he's a forward line coach.

 

[Gethelred]

Oh I'm sorry my bad...
Richmond's own website must have got it wrong

Official AFL Website of the Richmond Football Club

Official AFL Website of the Richmond Football Club

www.richmondfc.com.au

Thanks for that; didn't see the transition to defense in 2019.

What did he do there that was so groundbreaking, though? Didn't he just perpetuate the pre-existing status quo: pressure upfield to generate the long high ball, intercept and flick out the vacant wing as quickly as possible?

If we're pinching someone from Richmond, I want McQualter, their stoppage and setup coach, because that's where we're lacking.

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

Not really telling us anything we don't already know, beyond the added 'Petracca will be licking his lips' and the 'Melbourne midfielders smarting after' stuff.

Just confirms, with some level of stats, that the defense of our clearances is unwarranted. The setup doesn't work at all and it's the worst I've seen it ever as a blues supporter. Laying blame is hard but the person directly responsible has to take the brunt.

 

[Jimmyonesix]

Clearly nothing to do with our coaches or system though...

Stats don't tell the whole story, and I rely mostly on my eyes at the ground to shape my thoughts. The Collingwood game has turned me off attending another live match this season until the whole group (players and coaches) prove they have turned things around.

So ugly watching also