Opinion The 'Carlton related stuff that doesn't need it's own thread' thread Part 2

[ItsAllAboutMe]

I'm curious to see where Clarkson goes from here. The easy answer is as he said, have a year off, but I could also see him thinking that's what he wants but getting an itch in a month or twos time.

Some people aren't great at taking time off and if Clarkson really is still hungry I could easily see a scenario where he has a change of heart on that and takes a job.

Only way Clarkson has a year off is if part of his payout it dictates he can not coach in 2022.. His manager would be currently fielding phone calls from at least Collingwood, Carlton, Gold Coast, West Coast and potentially from GWS.. All with multiple year million dollar offers on the table.. No one knocks backs these to simply have a year off.

 

[Original Moody Blue]

Caro has said from the very beginning of the year that she thought Carlton were actively looking at Clarkson.. Not sure who her source is within the club (or within the Clarkson camp) but she doesnt say these type of things without there being at least a little fire burning.

Just can't see Clarkson going to Carlton. If his motivation is money, then he is has won the golden ticket. Both clubs will pay him whatever he wants, but again after 17 years at Hawthorn does he want to start again at a new club, where the cultures of both clubs have been questioned over the past few years? Carlton especially has a Board quick to sack as they did with Ratten & Bolton. Malthouse pulled his skirt over his head because he was not given an extension. Keep hearing Gold Coast, as an assistant coach where he can work quietly with the players and change their attitude. From an AFL perspective, GCS needs urgent action.

 

[Coops93]

Only way Clarkson has a year off is if part of his payout it dictates he can not coach in 2022.. His manager would be currently fielding phone calls from at least Collingwood, Carlton, Gold Coast, West Coast and potentially from GWS.. All with multiple year million dollar offers on the table.. No one knocks backs these to simply have a year off.

I don't think there'll be any clause saying he can't coach next year, there'll probably be one saying he won't receive the payout.

 

[Original Moody Blue]

I don't think there'll be any clause saying he can't coach next year, there'll probably be one saying he won't receive the payout.

Technically Clarkson could sue them for breach of contract and also add damage to reputation, personal suffering etc etc.
He could go after them for a lot more than his contract. After having sacked him, they cannot then tell him he cannot coach in 2022.

 

[thylacine60]

Voting on club constitutional change is like trying to cancel cable. Sure, you can drop Disney but you kiss History goodbye if you do.

Tom’s Take: Carlton’s football review takes major turn

A former long-time president of the club has made a bold decision regarding the Carlton board.

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[Aphrodite]

Voting on club constitutional change is like trying to cancel cable. Sure, you can drop Disney but you kiss History goodbye if you do.

Tom’s Take: Carlton’s football review takes major turn

A former long-time president of the club has made a bold decision regarding the Carlton board.

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Tom Browne click bait.

 

[LanceRomance]

I wonder if Clarko has contractual arrangements not coach outright next year?

I reckon the AFL will look to move him to gcs

On another note, I don't mind the threat of a board challenge... They can't sit to comfortably. With that said we don't need people flinging shit because they are frustrated.

 

[gab213]

I wonder if Clarko has contractual arrangements not coach outright next year?

I reckon the AFL will look to move him to gcs

I have the feeling that this is exactly what the AFL would do. The only thing that worries me is Caroline Wilson's insistence that he is coming to Carlton. She is one of the very few journalists that makes me sit up and take notice when she's so insistent.

 

[AceAndy]

Not a fan of Clarko Andy?

I get that we could end up with another Malthouse situation but imo, that won't be the case with Clarko.

His problem at the Hawks is, his cattle got old. So he tried to top up to have one last crack at it to detrimental effect. Personally, if he'd won 4 premierships with us, I wouldn't mind or blame him for trying to top up for one more.

If he comes to us, he will have fresh cattle and a lot of weapons to work with. I think he'd elevate guys like Stocker, LOB and Dow.

Most importantly, he won't take any sh*t. The only downsides I can see are he might lack the hunger and/or his ego might be a bit inflated after his previous success vs a coach who has never won a flag...

I do wonder if he really has a passion for coaching or would be just using us to top-up his super.

Seems to be accepted (at least in the media) he is the best coach in the business but not sure he would be the best for us. Just looks like we would be going down the Malthouse path again.

 

[thylacine60]

I wonder if Clarko has contractual arrangements not coach outright next year?

I reckon the AFL will look to move him to gcs

On another note, I don't mind the threat of a board challenge... They can't sit to comfortably. With that said we don't need people flinging sh*t because they are frustrated.

This.

 

[Pinnell]

Plus he will solidify his immortal status with the AFL all time great coaches rank, if he can produce a flag for Carlton.

Maybe Parko will be reinforcing that for Clarko

 

[Blue_Fusion]

I do wonder if he really has a passion for coaching or would be just using us to top-up his super.

Seems to be accepted (at least in the media) he is the best coach in the business but not sure he would be the best for us. Just looks like we would be going down the Malthouse path again.

To me, he comes across as a proud guy, I don't think he'd want to let his reputation go down the drain for the sake of more $$$

 

[gab213]

Maybe Parko will be reinforcing that for Clarko

The difference between Parko and Clarkson is that Parko wasn't established as a great coach before he got to us. He coached Hawthorn to a premiership in 78 and that was seen as being off the back of Kennedy's work at the time. He was out of a job at hawthorn when we picked him up, they didn't want him any longer. Carlton is where he made his reputation as one of the great coaches. Clarkson isn't in a similar position at all, he has nothing to prove.

 

[Pommylovescarlton]

Esteemed members of the forum! Did not know where to post this! but with all the doom and gloom I figured we have some focus on what matters! which player will be Carlton's Next Top Debutant (this year only)

You wanna be on top? Pommy Mail!

Who are you looking forward to seeing the most?

 

[thylacine60]

The difference between Parko and Clarkson is that Parko wasn't established as a great coach before he got to us. He coached Hawthorn to a premiership in 78 and that was seen as being off the back of Kennedy's work at the time. He was out of a job at hawthorn when we picked him up, they didn't want him any longer. Carlton is where he made his reputation as one of the great coaches. Clarkson isn't in a similar position at all, he has nothing to prove.

You had every opportunity to run with "The difference between Parko and Clarko" but for some inexplicable reason didn't, crushing the hearts of alliteration fan bois the world over.

 

[gab213]

You had every opportunity to run with "The difference between Parko and Clarko" but for some inexplicable reason didn't, crushing the hearts of alliteration fan bois the world over.

I don't view Clarkson with the same affection that I do old mate Parko

 

[AceAndy]

To me, he comes across as a proud guy, I don't think he'd want to let his reputation go down the drain for the sake of more $$$

He has certainly landed in a good spot in that he has 3 or 4 clubs he could go to next year or just take a 900k gap year.

 

[Sector 7G]

The difference between Parko and Clarkson is that Parko wasn't established as a great coach before he got to us. He coached Hawthorn to a premiership in 78 and that was seen as being off the back of Kennedy's work at the time. He was out of a job at hawthorn when we picked him up, they didn't want him any longer. Carlton is where he made his reputation as one of the great coaches. Clarkson isn't in a similar position at all, he has nothing to prove.

Parko did pick up a young team that won a premiership the year before. Didn't really have to do much to improve on Jones as coach to take out back to back premierships.

 

[gab213]

Parko did pick up a young team that won a premiership the year before. Didn't really have to do much to improve on Jones as coach to take out back to back premierships.

That wasn't what I was talking about but long term his reputation was enhanced at Carlton. Clarkson isn't in the same position.

 

[Gethelred]

Only way Clarkson has a year off is if part of his payout it dictates he can not coach in 2022.. His manager would be currently fielding phone calls from at least Collingwood, Carlton, Gold Coast, West Coast and potentially from GWS.. All with multiple year million dollar offers on the table.. No one knocks backs these to simply have a year off.

Time sits still for no-one certainly, but without knowing his direct financial situation I don't know if you can unequivocally declare that he's absolutely driven by the money of it all. He's getting a payout from Hawthorn in the amount of the rest of his contract; he doesn't need to jump straight into another club or another coaching gig.

Not everyone's driven by money, and 1 million dollars isn't always a large amount of money for everyone. He's been getting roundabout that for years now, and he'll get it if/when he coaches again, provided he doesn't take 5+ years out of the game.

 

[Gethelred]

Mods, is there a way to have posts read in one thread not tagged as 'new' after you've transferred them to a different one? It's just a bit annoying to click onto this thread only to wade through a page or so of stuff I've already seen.

 

[Original Moody Blue]

Time sits still for no-one certainly, but without knowing his direct financial situation I don't know if you can unequivocally declare that he's absolutely driven by the money of it all. He's getting a payout from Hawthorn in the amount of the rest of his contract; he doesn't need to jump straight into another club or another coaching gig.

Not everyone's driven by money, and 1 million dollars isn't always a large amount of money for everyone. He's been getting roundabout that for years now, and he'll get it if/when he coaches again, provided he doesn't take 5+ years out of the game.

OK I will take one for the team and try the social experiment. Put one million into my account and I will come back to you next year and tell you how it went...

 

[Aphrodite]

Mods, is there a way to have posts read in one thread not tagged as 'new' after you've transferred them to a different one? It's just a bit annoying to click onto this thread only to wade through a page or so of stuff I've already seen.

System won't allow it Geth.

Same happens to all of us if posts are moved from one thread to another.

 

[myblueroan]

people need to differentiate between caro tossing an idea around and stating this is how it is/is going to be..........true dinks........

That would be boring Stripey!

 

[agro]

I don't view Clarkson with the same affection that I do old mate Parko

That’s because Parko didn’t coward punch Carlton’s and the VFL’s Best First year player in a meaningless exhibition game or put 4 defenders on our Full Forward in a game to prevent him kicking 100 goals when they were already 10 goals up.