Mega Thread The Media Thread

[salim malik]

Complaints about the state of the game only come from the punters whose teams are playing like shit and being belted by teams with a better game plan. Its been like that season after season for as long as I can remember.

 

[Joao]

Not tuning into any Fox / 7 / 9 / Internet talking trash shows until this rubbish blows over. They never want to talk about us when we win or our players when they do well but they drool shit out of their mouths like rats when off-field problems like this get dug up.

They're complaining about the state of the game - but you want to know the real problem with this season? There's more focus on off-field stories than on-field ones.

They are all banging on about the state of the game atm (it is the current flavour) but Ross has us playing some of the best football in the league. Will be interesting to see whether he is embraced more once this all blows over since "being defensive" was his cited big knock.

 

[Deathly]

Complaints about the state of the game only come from the punters whose teams are playing like shit and being belted by teams with a better game plan. Its been like that season after season for as long as I can remember.

This applies truley to the Victorian teams in 2018.

Carlton stuck in eternal rebuild hell.
St.Kilda the lowest scoring team in the competition looking to hit a massive roadblock.
Precious Essendon / Melbourne aren't the projected finals teams that they had convinced themselves of being.
Western Bulldogs are starting from Block 1 again.
Geelong / North are all playing okay - but inconsistent football.
Hawthorn are getting back to being Hawthorn.

Injury ravaged Collingwood are probably playing a better brand than the above and that would disgruntle the masses over there.

And the worst part is they're all behind overrated, easy draw Richmond.

Not a long going for the Eastern peasants, so better find a way to complain about the game than accept the reality.

 

[Joao]

This applies truley to the Victorian teams in 2018.

Carlton stuck in eternal rebuild hell.
St.Kilda the lowest scoring team in the competition looking to hit a massive roadblock.
Precious Essendon / Melbourne aren't the projected finals teams that they had convinced themselves of being.
Western Bulldogs are starting from Block 1 again.
Geelong / North are all playing okay - but inconsistent football.
Hawthorn are getting back to being Hawthorn.

Injury ravaged Collingwood are probably playing a better brand than the above and that would disgruntle the masses over there.

And the worst part is they're all behind overrated, easy draw Richmond.

Not a long going for the Eastern peasants, so better find a way to complain about the game than accept the reality.

Pies are going pretty well given who is out. I rate them this year (well I rated them 2 years ago and they let me down) and I think they will hum along later in the year if they get most of their B22 on the park.

I know it is painful but Richmond are irresistible at the MCG. Lets be honest, if they can finish top 2 then their ineptitude on the road against quality is irrelevant.

Hawthorn aren't nearly as good as old Hawthorn but still travelling alright.

Rest I agree with.

 

[dominguez]

Does the media want Lyon sacked? Is that the ultimate aim here?

I just can't see how this can go anywhere.

I guess the media want enough dirt to come out in the wash that the club is forced to sack him, then they have a big story. But at this stage the consensus seems to be that it's a minor incident.

The timing isn't great with the ongoing Powell Pepper saga.

 

[frenchconnection]

It goes both ways -

I knew that there would be a small number of idiots in a crowd this size and I have certainly had more run ins with Eagles supporters than anyone else but my game day experience was very friendly and reasonable from start to finish. Lucky I guess - running into supporters like that can really wreck your enjoyment of the game. I must admit, I would never go to a Eagles home game simply from past experience.

I no longer go to Fremantle home games for the same reason in reverse - ie past experience with some of the Freo supporters. I guess that's just the way it is!

 

[Deathly]

Pies are going pretty well given who is out. I rate them this year (well I rated them 2 years ago and they let me down) and I think they will hum along later in the year if they get most of their B22 on the park.

I know it is painful but Richmond are irresistible at the MCG. Lets be honest, if they can finish top 2 then their ineptitude on the road against quality is irrelevant.

Hawthorn aren't nearly as good as old Hawthorn but still travelling alright.

Rest I agree with.

I usually say it how it is, but Collingwood I thought their list was terrible going into the year and I didn't have high expectations of them - but need to give them credit, they're making it work and playing some good football. I think if they can field their B22 they will definitely be playing finals this year. Based on the sample size so far this year they're more than capable of doing so.

Richmond I don't agree with re; them at the MCG.

They weren't really convincing against Carlton to start the year off, they barely beat Hawthorn who were on a 5 day turnaround and missing 3 of their best. They beat up a DBeamless Brisbane who were playing for the third week in a row on the road. Melbourne are average right now, so the only credible win I give them is having to play 4 quarters against a under star powered Collingwood line-up to win.

 

[Joao]

I guess the media want enough dirt to come out in the wash that the club is forced to sack him, then they have a big story. But at this stage the consensus seems to be that it's a minor incident.

The timing isn't great with the ongoing Powell Pepper saga.

If Ross somehow got sacked for this I would deliberately avoid the media until it all washed over.

No way it gets blown up like that unless there is significant dirt hidden because it would look really bad for the AFL having ticked it off. Between that and the NDA I am not sure what they think is going to happen here.

I usually say it how it is, but Collingwood I thought their list was terrible going into the year and I didn't have high expectations of them - but need to give them credit, they're making it work and playing some good football. I think if they can field their B22 they will definitely be playing finals this year. Based on the sample size so far this year they're more than capable of doing so.

Richmond I don't agree with re; them at the MCG.

They weren't really convincing against Carlton to start the year off, they barely beat Hawthorn who were on a 5 day turnaround and missing 3 of their best. They beat up a DBeamless Brisbane who were playing for the third week in a row on the road. Melbourne are average right now, so the only credible win I give them is having to play 4 quarters against a under star powered Collingwood line-up to win.

I watched that Carlton game. Carlton were amazing for ten minutes then got blown off the park for 3.5 quarters. 50m penalties, Carlton's amazing goal kicking and Richmond's ordinary goal kicking made that look like a contest. It really wasn't. 70 odd inside 50s and 36 scoring shots it could have been so ugly.

Hawthorn and Collingwood are also MCG residents which keeps those contests competitive. Would be interesting to see how the Pies would go with their b22 out there and not off a 4 day break. Hawks were ~4 goals down early in the 4th and got a bit late to make it look close but I don't think it was that close.

Brisbane result is irrelevant since they suck.

What is interesting is that I don't think they play noticeably better football than Pies, Hawks or Demons (again they were right in it until just before 3qt) but they can do it for longer. Nobody seems to be able to go with them in the 4th. Not sure if that is a fitness thing or a mental thing but it is what separates them from the good teams - well that and having the GF venue at their home ground. I still think Adelaide (at full strength) are better but because of where the GF is again it is irrelevant.

 

[masai]

Does the media want Lyon sacked? Is that the ultimate aim here?

I just can't see how this can go anywhere.

What does Gerard Wheatley say ?.

I've got Foxtel, but can't stomach 360.

 

[Joao]

What does Gerard Wheatley say ?.

I've got Foxtel, but can't stomach 360.

Me either. Don't mind On the Couch but can't handle Robbo sighing before making some statement that he thinks is profound but is actually dribble.

 

[masai]

They are all banging on about the state of the game atm (it is the current flavour) but Ross has us playing some of the best football in the league. Will be interesting to see whether he is embraced more once this all blows over since "being defensive" was his cited big knock.

If you watched the games on the weekend, Freo are one of the more attacking teams this year.

Stereotypes can take time to dispel.

 

[Deveraux]

What does Gerard Wheatley say ?.

I've got Foxtel, but can't stomach 360.

Whately was on a bit of a war path, with the pushing of his 'hush money' rubbish instead of the correct term, Settlement. Mentioned he would not want to be involved in an organisation that pays for problems to go away, yada yada yada. He has known issues with Lyon though and his sanctimonious BS annoys me.

Robbo as much as I hate the guy was a little more pragmatic, said that there was no way the AFL would have ticked this off if it was in any way a serious matter but was still confused about why payment was necessary.

 

[Joao]

Whately was on a bit of a war path, with the pushing off this 'hush money' rubbish instead of the correct term, Settlement. Mentioned he would not want to be involved in an organisation that pays for problems to go away, yada yada yada. He has known issues with Lyon though and his sanctimonious BS annoys me.

Robbo as much as I hate the guy was a little more pragmatic, said that there was no way the AFL would have ticked this off if it was in any way a serious matter but was still confused about why payment was necessary.

I don't take Whately seriously on Geelong, Freo or Ross because he is clearly not impartial.

I am no lawyer either but I am fairly sure settlement is by far the most common way of ending civil precedings. Hush money makes it sound devious no doubt.

I don't trust the AFL but if Workcover has ticked this off I can live with it. I hope Freo and the AFL continue their stance because I like seeing the media squirm.

 

[wild side]

Whately was on a bit of a war path, with the pushing of his 'hush money' rubbish instead of the correct term, Settlement. Mentioned he would not want to be involved in an organisation that pays for problems to go away, yada yada yada. He has known issues with Lyon though and his sanctimonious BS annoys me.

He gets paid by Murdoch, seriously. Newscorp ??

 

[Joao]

He gets paid by Murdoch, seriously. Newscorp ??

Hahaha I didn't even think of that. If you can't trust big media, who can you trust?

Dude is a serious hypocrite though. Proved it when reneging on his ABC contract to follow the cash to SEN. I don't blame him in the slightest but I don't see how it is any different to Rossco.

 

[Sully90]

So this whole situation has been ok'd by everyone including Workcover, the AFL, and the offended party herself. Tell me again why this is being covered to death?

 

[Wizard]

So this whole situation has been ok'd by everyone including Workcover, the AFL, and the offended party herself. Tell me again why this is being covered to death?

It may or may not sell a newspaper or online subscription is my guess.

And also helps some particular knobs feel better because they have an ax to grind.

 

[LeftFootBanana]

I read the West this morning for the first time in years and was pleasantly surprised by the fairly measured and even handed coverage of the issue.

With news breaking of Bomber Thompson being charged with trafficking ecstasy and ice, the hyenas will move on to a fresh carcass.

http://www.watoday.com.au/victoria/...-court-over-drug-charges-20180501-p4zcpg.html

I can't say I'm surprised but I am saddened. It shows how addiction doesn't discriminate and it can affect anyone.

 

[freoextra]

I read the West this morning for the first time in years and was pleasantly surprised by the fairly measured and even handed coverage of the issue.

With news breaking of Bomber Thompson being charged with trafficking ecstasy and ice, the hyenas will move on to a fresh carcass.

http://www.watoday.com.au/victoria/...-court-over-drug-charges-20180501-p4zcpg.html

I can't say I'm surprised but I am saddened. It shows how addiction doesn't discriminate and it can affect anyone.

He is a strange cat but I certainly never wished this on him.

Clearly the breakdown of relationships ect has seen a massive downward spiral - always sad to see.

Wish him the best personally but also hate drug trafficking.

 

[hoss]

Lol Channel 7 ran with the Ross story first up, even before the Bomber Thompson news. [emoji23]

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[Cobbler]

Lyon was as calm as a Cerra set shot from 40m out when dealing with Basil.

Even if Lyon was completely innocent I'd have just cracked and lost it at him asking me 5 times. What a bellend Basil is.

In fact you could see Basil shit himself. https://thewest.com.au/sport/ross-l...onfirm-sexual-harassment-claims-ng-b88823102z

22 seconds in. Basil gathers himself. May have let one squeak out the side and goes for the question. The he puts his big boy pants on and rolls with asking him a few more times.

The pause at 22 seconds is priceless. Absolute genuine shit himself moment.

 

[LeftFootBanana]

I don't remember Basil as being overendowed with intestinal fortitude during his WAFL career. I bet he was wearing brown pants under the desk. He won't be looking forward seeing RTB in person.

 

[westy1]

Love the way rtb seemed pretty confident this group was gunna be a he first for Freo to win the flag

 

[Freo Quokkas]

There's been double standards with how the Lyon matter has been dealt with compared to the Powell Pepper matter.

People with vested interests have shown contempt for ethics, transparency, and integrity.

The only relevance of when the Lyon incident occurred, is what policy the AFL had in place at the time and since then to the present for dealing with such matters. Which needs changing. Hush money and confidentiality agreements should have no involvement in professional sport.

How are Fremantle members and sponsors responding?

If it really is a minor matter, why the need to pay hush money to make the matter go away?

The standards one walks past is the standards he or she accepts.

 

[Frank J Moose]

There's been double standards with how the Lyon matter has been dealt with compared to the Powell Pepper matter.

People with vested interests have shown contempt for ethics, transparency, and integrity.

The only relevance of when the Lyon incident occurred, is what policy the AFL had in place at the time and since then to the present for dealing with such matters. Which needs changing. Hush money and confidentiality agreements should have no involvement in professional sport.

How are Fremantle members and sponsors responding?

If it really is a minor matter, why the need to pay hush money to make the matter go away?

The standards one walks past is the standards he or she accepts.

Have you read anything in this thread? Do yo understand anything about work place law? Can you tell me what else the club can do to redress the former employee who was effected by the comment?

It is normal and usual business practice to have a confidental settlement. It is not hush money.