MRP / Trib. The MRP thread

[BruceFromBalnarring]

You know almost as bad as the trolls from North Melbourne are our sanctimonious own telling us we need to move on. I pay my $300 odd and I think I'm entitled to be pissed off and to express it.

Goodes has a history of petulance at times, certainly. Never violence. Players have been sliding in for years now, Goodes is the only one to be suspended for it, twice now. He corrected his action from pre season, and still copped it. So the rule is that other players can slide in, studs up, even break legs, but Goodes alone, because Leigh Matthews once called him a protected flipping species, must stay on his feet at all times, because he caused a flipping grass stain on a blokes shorts.

Fck me I thought once Barry Hall left we might get a reasonable run.

The consequence of what the tribunal have effectively said they require of Goodes is what happened to Rohan. That's the truth of it.

 

[The King!]

Hope we play north in the finals so we can kill them their supporters are friggen idiots.

I only say move on cos it cant be changed and we got the champ back. I dont care about the thomas one, goodes was warned. But
I still think the issue is its not clear what he has to do in that situation, watch the player get the ball?

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

I'm sorry I overreacted. I'm just really shitty about this. I have played a helluva lot of footy and I just can't see what, having made a commitment to the ball, he could have done. The thirst for his blood just shits me to tears. Especially when it comes from the MRP/Tribunal.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

You know almost as bad as the trolls from North Melbourne are our sanctimonious own telling us we need to move on. I pay my $300 odd and I think I'm entitled to be pissed off and to express it.

Goodes has a history of petulance at times, certainly. Never violence. Players have been sliding in for years now, Goodes is the only one to be suspended for it, twice now. He corrected his action from pre season, and still copped it. So the rule is that other players can slide in, studs up, even break legs, but Goodes alone, because Leigh Matthews once called him a protected flipping species, must stay on his feet at all times, because he caused a flipping grass stain on a blokes shorts.

Fck me I thought once Barry Hall left we might get a reasonable run.

The consequence of what the tribunal have effectively said they require of Goodes is what happened to Rohan. That's the truth of it.

What didnt help as well was Goodes got a media witchhunt..

 

[The King!]

What didnt help as well was Goodes got a media witchhunt..

The lack of respect he gets from opposition fans is stuffed too. Sick of the sniper crap

 

[.Shotties.]

I actually hope you do stick around, DoS, because I'm actually keen to chat to you about this in an environment where any sticking point isn't instantly drowned out by people repeating the same falsehoods over and over again nor where you can simply start passing comment on anything club based, no matter how irrelevant.

I note you've stated across a number of media that tonight Australian Football was saved, or words to those effects. Even adding in "suck shit Sydney sooks" as though the club or supporters had anything to do with the report or outcome, I might add. Last week you were actively barracking for Goodes to be suspended and calling him a sniper.

Last week Goodes attacked an irregularly bouncing ball (that he had just won from a contest, I might add) that was shown and accepted at the tribunal to be equal distance from himself and Surjan. He was sprinting at the ball, as was Surjan and both dropped themselves at the same time (again, accepted by the AFL counsel) to attack the ball. Goodes dropped to his knees and Surjan slid in with his studs up.

Both made contact with each other. Goodes got stud marks, Surjan suffered from grass abrasions. The time between both players dropping and contact would have been about a tenth of a second and the speed at which both players were moving make most suggestions (made without any explicit instruction) of a legal tackle or bump pretty hard to fathom. That said if you have any idea how a sprinting Goodes should have tackled or bumped a sprinting Surjan who'd just gone into a legs up slide, I'd love to hear.

You spent the week hoping he'd be suspended and celebrating when it was done.

This week Thomas also attacked an awkwardly bouncing ball, same pace, same distance as his opponent. Whether by fate or fortune his legs were not underneath him and one ended up buried in the lower leg of a player who had remained on his feet. Complete accident, no denying that.

However this time you've spent the week saying that the game needs to be saved and any suspension is ridiculous etc. alongside your barbs about the club.

In both cases the difference between the outcomes is a matter of a fraction of a second. A tenth of a second faster and the ball would have been in Goodes' lap and Surjan would have been without the ball with his studs buried in in Goodes (although they were anyway). A tenth of a second slower for Thomas and his ankle would have been caught under the foot of Rohan for who knows what result?

What I want to know is, why are the two outcomes so vastly, vastly different that one has you cheering for suspension in one case and proclaiming that the game has been saved in another? I'd prefer it if you didn't put in disingenuous arguments like "Goodes lead with his knees / you don't catch the ball with your knees" because the other person in that particular collision lead with their studs and didn't make any real attempt to collect it between their feet.

 

[SM]

I actually hope you do stick around, DoS, because I'm actually keen to chat to you about this in an environment where any sticking point isn't instantly drowned out by people repeating the same falsehoods over and over again nor where you can simply start passing comment on anything club based, no matter how irrelevant.

I note you've stated across a number of media that tonight Australian Football was saved, or words to those effects. Even adding in "suck shit Sydney sooks" as though the club or supporters had anything to do with the report or outcome, I might add. Last week you were actively barracking for Goodes to be suspended and calling him a sniper.

Last week Goodes attacked an irregularly bouncing ball (that he had just won from a contest, I might add) that was shown and accepted at the tribunal to be equal distance from himself and Surjan. He was sprinting at the ball, as was Surjan and both dropped themselves at the same time (again, accepted by the AFL counsel) to attack the ball. Goodes dropped to his knees and Surjan slid in with his studs up.

Both made contact with each other. Goodes got stud marks, Surjan suffered from grass abrasions. The time between both players dropping and contact would have been about a tenth of a second and the speed at which both players were moving make most suggestions (made without any explicit instruction) of a legal tackle or bump pretty hard to fathom. That said if you have any idea how a sprinting Goodes should have tackled or bumped a sprinting Surjan who'd just gone into a legs up slide, I'd love to hear.

You spent the week hoping he'd be suspended and celebrating when it was done.

This week Thomas also attacked an awkwardly bouncing ball, same pace, same distance as his opponent. Whether by fate or fortune his legs were not underneath him and one ended up buried in the lower leg of a player who had remained on his feet. Complete accident, no denying that.

However this time you've spent the week saying that the game needs to be saved and any suspension is ridiculous etc. alongside your barbs about the club.

In both cases the difference between the outcomes is a matter of a fraction of a second. A tenth of a second faster and the ball would have been in Goodes' lap and Surjan would have been without the ball with his studs buried in in Goodes (although they were anyway). A tenth of a second slower for Thomas and his ankle would have been caught under the foot of Rohan for who knows what result?

What I want to know is, why are the two outcomes so vastly, vastly different that one has you cheering for suspension in one case and proclaiming that the game has been saved in another? I'd prefer it if you didn't put in disingenuous arguments like "Goodes lead with his knees / you don't catch the ball with your knees" because the other person in that particular collision lead with their studs and didn't make any real attempt to collect it between their feet.

I love it when you make posts like this. It's very sexy.

 

[bedford]

Because it is your board and it is a fairly highly strung topic and I think it is safe to say that my views will differ rather markedly from the majority here.

Team boards are about people going in the cave and having a "mates only" chat.

That needs to be respected.

Good as you were as Sweet left foot, leave us alone

 

[GotTheGoodes]

Thomas cleared over Rohan incident

It has been decided that because Thomas didn't mean it he should get off... WTF!?!

http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8456760


MRP

 

[liz]

I am still seething about the media response to the Goodes incident. If I hear, or read, one more time that he slid in with his knees to a player in possession I will literally scream out loud.

Apparently Goodes had to keep his feet, then he would have been fine. (Of course, he might be in hospital with a broken leg but at least he wouldn't have been a sniper...)

Getting low, keeping your feet - clearly neither of these is significant. The only thing that matters is getting there first, even if the difference between getting there first and second is just a split second.

 

[Riders of Rohan]

People who get to the ball first may as well start punching people in the face. We would suspend you, but since you got there first.... it's all good.

Also sick of the Goodes knees comments and all associated Goodes hysteria by the media and sites like bigfooty.

 

[J_Moore]

I am still seething about the media response to the Goodes incident. If I hear, or read, one more time that he slid in with his knees to a player in possession I will literally scream out loud.

Apparently Goodes had to keep his feet, then he would have been fine. (Of course, he might be in hospital with a broken leg but at least he wouldn't have been a sniper...)

Getting low, keeping your feet - clearly neither of these is significant. The only thing that matters is getting there first, even if the difference between getting there first and second is just a split second.

Yep, I still don't understand people who use freeze frames or super-slow motion to try and establish intent. People would think the game was played in slo-mo, the way they carry on.

I can see how people draw a distinction between the Thomas and Goodes approaches to the ball (though I don't think it's major), I cannot understand people who say what Surjan did was different to what Goodes did.

Meanwhile, on the Kangaroos board, Teffy has declared he has taken names of Swans supporters that have drawn comparisons between Goodes and Thomas. While this wouldn't ordinarily bother me, coming from Tef it has me concerned I'm going to wake up one day with a hood over my head, and in the back of a white van with tinted windows, being driven out to a survivalist camp in far-western NSW.

 

[The King!]

I can accept that the afl have decided goodes approach to thr contest is a worry. But i want to know what he has to do instead.

I can see the difference in the thomas one, but the reasons he used to get off are inconsistent with the goodes case


I am also sick of north flogs who only want to hear how thomas was hard done by and goodes is unrelated and had to go. It you even suggest another comment they just abuse you as a response or say sydney fans are clueless. I am sorry i know its childish but they are the biggest bunch of idiots on big footy and they can f off to their own board and im starting to hope their club fades away only because its fans are so pathetic.

I just hate the feeling goodes went because he is a star and was made example of but because thomas is a just a solid no name he got off

 

[bedford]

Which thread on the Norf board, bulldog

 

[.Shotties.]

Meanwhile, on the Kangaroos board, Teffy has declared he has taken names of Swans supporters that have drawn comparisons between Goodes and Thomas. While this wouldn't ordinarily bother me, coming from Tef it has me concerned I'm going to wake up one day with a hood over my head, and in the back of a white van with tinted windows, being driven out to a survivalist camp in far-western NSW.

Wouldn't be concerned. Given his hit rate he's probably been writing names from the Saints board.

 

[J_Moore]

Which thread on the Norf board, bulldog

This one.

 

[The King!]

Evolution never quite made it at north melbourne they are nut jobs. Healy and roos didnt agree with them so basically need to die. Class

 

[TheGoatBaron]

Meanwhile, on the Kangaroos board, Teffy has declared he has taken names of Swans supporters that have drawn comparisons between Goodes and Thomas. While this wouldn't ordinarily bother me, coming from Tef it has me concerned I'm going to wake up one day with a hood over my head, and in the back of a white van with tinted windows, being driven out to a survivalist camp in far-western NSW.

Pretty ****ing gutless from North supporters to do and just typical of them. No wonder, they are so hated.

Dear Teff, get bent.

 

[nicky]

Meanwhile, on the Kangaroos board, Teffy has declared he has taken names of Swans supporters that have drawn comparisons between Goodes and Thomas. While this wouldn't ordinarily bother me, coming from Tef it has me concerned I'm going to wake up one day with a hood over my head, and in the back of a white van with tinted windows, being driven out to a survivalist camp in far-western NSW.

Yeah i saw that and had a chuckle until i remembered that he is nuts.

for example

I'm content to see their credibility attacked further by the club, and the issue put further under the microscope.

Learn some political tactics.

When your enemy comes at you with a weapon and drops it, you don't pick it up, dust it off and hand it back to them. You point that weapon at them and chase them all the way in to the abyss.

Thanks sensai.

 

[TheGoatBaron]

Evolution never quite made it at north melbourne they are nut jobs. Healy and roos didnt agree with them so basically need to die. Class

lol New signature for me. Thanks dude.

 

[MF]

Haha. That thread is hilarious. Old Skool has given me a few good laughs in the past week.

Also had to chuckle at SLF sprinting to the bay after the tribunal result last night too.. "We won something! We won something guys!"

At least we can go back to talking about next weekends game now. North can continue on, trying to distract themselves from what we did to them on the weekend.

 

[bedford]

Robbo and Dermie are saying on SEN that Thomas should have gone. They also said if it had have been Judd or Gaza all hell would have broken out and then that dog David King said there was nothing wrong with it.

 

[TheTrademark]

Watching AFL360 tonight. Generally think Gerard Whately is a pretty good commentator and makes up for Robbo. Today Robbo was SOOO bad, not much Whately could do to make up. They talked about Longmire's comments RE sliding and Goodes and Thomas.

Firstly, Robbo said that the AFL is ABSOLUTELY taking injury into account for length of penalty. I guess the grass abrasions must be much worse than compound fractures!!

Then Mark McClure said that the system worked. In his opinion this is because, Goodes got MRP-ed, then tribunal-ed and then lost on appeal while Thomas got MRP-ed, then Tribunal-ed and then was free-ed to play. That the system working apparently.

Robbo went on and on with it in such a hyperbolic way, without actually saying anything of substance that there was no time for anyone to point out the unsubstantiated nature of both comments!

Swans fans need the Swan BF page. Besides maybe Roos and Gerard Healey "on the couch" (who themselves are often dismissed by Mike Sheehan), a broad and even representation of the Swans does not occur in the media.

I think the Mods and all Swans fans should be commended for keeping an awesome, fair and provocative forum - especially in the the last few weeks when certain instances and influences have heavily impacted the threads. If we don't have a place like this, there would be no avenue for discussion of the Swans evenly and truthfully!

 

[Chinners100]

I'm looking at the North board and they dedicated a whole thread to how Roos and Healy hurt their feelings. They're looking into further action apparently. They've truly lost it now.

 

[bedford]

They never had it