The off topic thread 3.0

[Jatz]

It seemed pretty closely linked to the allegation and if anything lends credence to it so I thought he was just being transparent.

Was more that he couldn't really ignore it after these allegations. For someone who's spent most of his career keeping his personal life, very personal, it was an 'interesting' decision/time to open up to the world.

Outside of the trash media, nobody really cared he came out as gay. The problem isn't that he's gay, the problem was that he assaulted a minor.

 

[Jatz]

What I would say, is that while there's no excusing the incident with the 14 year old, this doesn't appear to be an ongoing issue with him. It's not as though he's this 'monster' that's hidden in hollywood for all these year.

 

[SM]

Was more that he couldn't really ignore it after these allegations. For someone who's spent most of his career keeping his personal life, very personal, it was an 'interesting' decision/time to open up to the world.

Outside of the trash media, nobody really cared he came out as gay. The problem isn't that he's gay, the problem was that he assaulted a minor.

Did he assault him? I hardly call picking him up, or even lying on him - unless accompanied by other actions - to be full blown assault.

 

[SM]

What I would say, is that while there's no excusing the incident with the 14 year old, this doesn't appear to be an ongoing issue with him. It's not as though he's this 'monster' that's hidden in hollywood for all these year.

But he'll be tarnished as such regardless.

 

[Jatz]

Did he assault him? I hardly call picking him up, or even lying on him - unless accompanied by other actions - to be full blown assault.

Lying on top of a minor, in a hotel room with no one else around? I don't have a child but if I did, I'd definitely consider that an assault.

 

[Jatz]

But he'll be tarnished as such regardless.

And rightly so.

 

[SM]

Lying on top of a minor, in a hotel room with no one else around? I don't have a child but if I did, I'd definitely consider that an assault.

Wasn't it Spacey's house? Not that it matters. I guess I'm thinking sexual assault which it isn't but is probably assault. Just seems a weird situation where the kid has gone to this party, seen its all adults, and instead of leaving gone to Spacey's bedroom and watched TV. And then when spacey assaulted him he just got up and left with no issue. I feel like there's something missing.

 

[SM]

And rightly so.

Huh? Why is it right that he's tarnished as a monster of Hollywood for something that happened 30 years ago? Is no one allowed to learn from their mistakes or change? As you said he's not been linked to anything on going.

 

[jd2010]

chef or anyone for that matter

whats the turnaround time generally after picking a provider to get your electricity or gas set up?

 

[Spanish Sahara]

Just pick the one that pays my wages. Cheers

 

[Fryer Tuck]

More-so watching (surfing aside)! I don't play golf as much as I did in my teens, but I get to the driving range whenever I can. With watching, the European and USPGA tours get a heap of viewing. As brilliant as Golf is, it's a luxury which is difficult to afford both time and money wise... And to maintain a decent handicap 10>, you need to hit balls more than once a week.

Surf every day that I can at dawn - depending on the winds/swell of course. Don't watch a whole lot of WSL but whenever Julian Wilson (who grew up 20 minutes from my parents' house) is on I stop what I'm doing and watch intently.

As for Football, I played it throughout my schooling years (5-18) and repped the region. Stopped though to focus on cricket, which is my strongest sport (even though I hate playing it). If only I had my time again! Obviously I watch waaaay too much Football - need to start cutting down the hours spent following the European leagues and replace them with study/sleep.

I used to be quite the keen golfer in my teens too, before pulling out. Haven't played a proper round for nearly a decade, and the last things I did was a pitch-n-putt, and a driving range session... last year? I'm struggling for time for sure.

Wow, that's cool (I just remembered you live up in QLD). I know what you mean. When you have a local hero just around the corner, you do take a certain interest (for me, that's Andy Bogut. Same primary school too!)

Wish I could've played rep sports. But was just too focused on my studies and well, just enjoying myself. I think I could've been half decent at Union or Gridiron if I tried more, but sometimes, one is just better watching and analysing the game then actually playing it... if I had the time these days.

You haven’t recalled correctly. [emoji12]

I mean yeah, everyone was on the field celebrating, but the final act of play with 1 second remaining was that it was New York Giants (not the Dolphins) possession. Tom Brady tried a pass with a few seconds left and it got deflected out of bounds, so it was the Giants ball with a second on the clock left. The game did officially end with the play after everyone was cleared off the field


NFL games do have a tendency to end whilst the clock (could be up to 10 seconds remaining) is running down and everyone is either celebrating or walking off the field. But teams don’t just give up when they’re behind by a few points and it’s their possession.

The Patriots and Giants also played off in the 2011 SB. Giants won 21-17 and the final play was of Tom Brady throwing the ball into the end zone that was deflected and the Giants won. In case you were thinking it was that SB.

Wait, it was the Giants ball? Hmm, could've sworn it was 4th down in that game. Ah well.

But yeah, when I meant Miami celebrating, I meant this Miami:

I still find it hard to believe that Miami at one time were actually pretty good.

 

[UnitedWarrior93]

Very poor from Spacey

 

[jd2010]

I still find it hard to believe that Miami at one time were actually pretty good.

I got sucked into supporting them after buying my first Madden game around 2000-2002. Purely off liking the colours and because Jason Taylor was a gun

 

[Fryer Tuck]

I got sucked into supporting them after buying my first Madden game around 2000-2002. Purely off liking the colours and because Jason Taylor was a gun

That's how I got into the Texans. Liked the challenge of taking the no-marks to glory (That, and their name is the Texans, how can you say no?)

Of course, when playing that MySuperstar mode was hilarious. I was a kicker that was drafted to Miami, where I met the biggest spud to have ever played the game, Dante Culpepper (yes, for that one season in Miami). Why was it hilarious? I have no idea how, but due to some freak result, I ended up being the QB for that game. I know that the other two QBs were injured, but I ended up starting over him until the... trade period, when they got a proper QB in? (I think my vision was like... 12, or something).

Yeah, as a rookie kicker, I was selected over Culpepper as a QB. Good thing I had two saves, because I decided to masquerade as a QB despite being a kicker (never punted once, and usually decided to go for goal when I was about 50 yards out.)

The funny thing is, if I recall correctly, Culpepper was a dud for Miami in real life as well.

 

[RPCB]

Has anyone played through Assassins Creed Origins? I would say the best AC game since the last one of Ezio’s trilogy (Revelations). The others were solid games but Origins is as good as the earliest games in the series. Definitely has a lot to do with the time period.

 

[Jatz]

Wasn't it Spacey's house? Not that it matters. I guess I'm thinking sexual assault which it isn't but is probably assault. Just seems a weird situation where the kid has gone to this party, seen its all adults, and instead of leaving gone to Spacey's bedroom and watched TV. And then when spacey assaulted him he just got up and left with no issue. I feel like there's something missing.

Hotel apparently.

What would you expect a 14 year old kid to do after Spacey laid on him? He's not likely to rush out and tell someone what's just happened. Grown adults have kept sexual assualts a secret, it's not surprising a kid did.

Huh? Why is it right that he's tarnished as a monster of Hollywood for something that happened 30 years ago? Is no one allowed to learn from their mistakes or change? As you said he's not been linked to anything on going.

What's the statute of limitations on being inappropriate towards a minor? I don't care if it was 100 years ago, it's bloody disgusting.

Funny you should say that.

http://www.news.com.au/entertainmen...s/news-story/e9d7880627608f7931ccc4a1ce24ac41

Seems like this may have happened more than just once.

 

[SM]

Hotel apparently.

What would you expect a 14 year old kid to do after Spacey laid on him? He's not likely to rush out and tell someone what's just happened. Grown adults have kept sexual assualts a secret, it's not surprising a kid did.

Oh sorry, I more meant it's weird he sees there's just adults at the party, decides to stay, and goes into Spacey's bedroom to watch TV. Not trying to victim blame, just trying to understand the scenario because it seems something's missing - was he waiting for someone to come to the party? Did he hope to meet Spacey and get some advice or something? I dunno. The point about him just getting up and walking out was more that it would indicate Spacey wasn't being particularly aggressive, but that's just guesswork.

Hotel apparently.

What would you expect a 14 year old kid to do after Spacey laid on him? He's not likely to rush out and tell someone what's just happened. Grown adults have kept sexual assualts a secret, it's not surprising a kid did.

What's the statute of limitations on being inappropriate towards a minor? I don't care if it was 100 years ago, it's bloody disgusting.

Funny you should say that.

http://www.news.com.au/entertainmen...s/news-story/e9d7880627608f7931ccc4a1ce24ac41

Seems like this may have happened more than just once.

Well that's different, I was just responding to your initial comment that it was "good" it seemed an isolated incident but that he would be "rightly" seen as a Hollywood monster.

 

[Jatz]

Oh sorry, I more meant it's weird he sees there's just adults at the party, decides to stay, and goes into Spacey's bedroom to watch TV. Not trying to victim blame, just trying to understand the scenario because it seems something's missing - was he waiting for someone to come to the party? Did he hope to meet Spacey and get some advice or something? I dunno. The point about him just getting up and walking out was more that it would indicate Spacey wasn't being particularly aggressive, but that's just guesswork.



Well that's different, I was just responding to your initial comment that it was "good" it seemed an isolated incident but that he would be "rightly" seen as a Hollywood monster.

He was working on a broadway show with Spacey at the time so at a guess (and that's all it is), presumably the cast were having a get together.

Not good for Spacey, good for any other potential victim. Although it seems like that may not be the case anyway.

What does annoy me, is that Rosie O'Donnell is now running her mouth saying they always knew about the abuse. Convenient she only came out about it after it was released. She'd say she didn't have the evidence or whatever but it shouldn't matter. If she's so convinced it happened, bring it forward.

 

[SM]

He was working on a broadway show with Spacey at the time so at a guess (and that's all it is), presumably the cast were having a get together.

Not good for Spacey, good for any other potential victim. Although it seems like that may not be the case anyway.

What does annoy me, is that Rosie O'Donnell is now running her mouth saying they always knew about the abuse. Convenient she only came out about it after it was released. She'd say she didn't have the evidence or whatever but it shouldn't matter. If she's so convinced it happened, bring it forward.

Weren't they working on separate shows?

Yeah then I still disagree - even though now it seems not a one off so a moot point - but if someone has one indiscretion 30+ years ago they shouldn't have their reputation irreparably tarnished (providing the incident was not terrible e.g. murder, rape, etc.).

Yeah but everyone does this. Once it comes out everyone says "Oh we always knew". It's hard to be the one to break the silence though. It's the same in any group mentality.

E.g. was talking just the other day about how a couple of mates know of issues between a friend and his GF in terms of things heard about her, but no one has talked to him about it because we don't feel it's our place. If someone did break that silence and say something we'd all be in a similar position of saying "Well yeah we'd known stuff for a while."

 

[Buckleys Jocks]

Yeah but everyone does this. Once it comes out everyone says "Oh we always knew". It's hard to be the one to break the silence though. It's the same in any group mentality.

TBF in this case, it isn't that much of a cop out as these rumours have always been out there about him though. Talk of inappropriate conduct towards male crew members on films he's worked on has always followed him pretty closely. Also, I'm not a fan of being guilty by association but he has some substantial social and professional links with others within the industry who have been the focus of some pretty nasty allegations over the years too.

 

[UnitedWarrior93]

Has anyone played through Assassins Creed Origins? I would say the best AC game since the last one of Ezio’s trilogy (Revelations). The others were solid games but Origins is as good as the earliest games in the series. Definitely has a lot to do with the time period.

I’ve only really just started it but agree, haven’t enjoyed an AC game this much since Revelations, although for me AC II is the best one.

You’re right about it being about the setting, ancient Egypt for me is a massive yes!!!

 

[RPCB]

What does annoy me, is that Rosie O'Donnell is now running her mouth saying they always knew about the abuse. Convenient she only came out about it after it was released. She'd say she didn't have the evidence or whatever but it shouldn't matter. If she's so convinced it happened, bring it forward.

I am confused why you’d keep secret the alleged abuse of someone who didn’t have a film credit to his name (Spacey’s first was in 1986) towards a 14 year old? It’s not as if Kevin Spacey comes from a powerful Hollywood family. He was just a no-name actor at that stage trying to “make it” in Hollywood. Weird!

I’ve only really just started it but agree, haven’t enjoyed an AC game this much since Revelations, although for me AC II is the best one.

You’re right about it being about the setting, ancient Egypt for me is a massive yes!!!

The setting was unbelievable. The atmosphere, the missions, assassinations. All of it was great fun.

 

[jd2010]

Great win by the 76ers again with Simmons at the heart of it. Are they a chance for 8th spot in the East? Rookie of the year should be going his way

 

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Great win by the 76ers again with Simmons at the heart of it. Are they a chance for 8th spot in the East? Rookie of the year should be going his way

They'll be up against it, especially if Detroit and Orlando don't drop off.

Keep trusting the process though. Such an exciting time ahead for Philly.

 

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Avocado lovers set to clean up as fruit numbers smash record

from: http://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/20...vocado-win-as-production-record-nears/9099736

Australia's favourite breakfast smash could soon become cheaper to come by with a record harvest tipped for the industry.

And local growers look set to avoid the brunt of any price changes as global consumption continues to drive significant improvements in grower returns.

The nation's peak avocado body is forecasting an abundant supply of the popular fruit in 2017/18, with initial estimates expecting 75,000 tonnes of avocados to be produced this financial year.

This is a far cry from early 2016, where a tightened supply saw consumers paying up to $6 per piece of fruit and leading to some using avocados as a barometer for modern house prices.

Riverland fruit grower Colin Fechner said steadying retail prices, as well as the increasing farmgate returns for producers, was a win for everyone.

"The volume of fruit going through the market keeps moving, the consumers are happy because fruit isn't stale, and everybody is happy," Mr Fechner said.

Avocado numbers grow to match consumption

Avocados are now a common sight on breakfast and brunch menus across the country, as more global consumers turn to the fruit.

Australian growers have boosted their plantings over the years to meet demand, and the estimated total crop production could break the 100,000 tonne mark in coming years.

Chief executive officer of Avocados Australia, John Tyas, said production looked set to continue soaring.

"We have seen growth in Australian avocado production pretty much year on year for a couple of decades," Mr Tyas said.

Mr Fechner, who put in his first plantings of avocados in 1976, agreed the industry was currently in positive territory.

"Most avocado growers are walking around with a smile on their face," he said.

Industry confident of avoiding fruit glut

Despite the substantial numbers of fruit anticipated, the nation's peak body believed it would find enough markets.

Mr Tyas said the development of overseas exports would be vital to the industry's growth.

"In terms of protocol markets, Japan, Thailand and China are our real priorities," he said.

"I think if we can achieve those in the next few years, that will set us up nicely."

Mr Tyas also said the growing use of avocados across different meals and cuisines, including desserts such as ice cream, will keep the fruit flying off local shelves.

"The marketing efforts have gone into encouraging people to use avocados at lots of different meal occasions," he said.

"We are only just on the tip of the iceberg in terms of that area of usage."