Food, Drink & Dining Out The Perth Thread - Part 2

[Billy ray]

I didnt drink for nearly 20 years. In that time i met my (now ex) wife, had two kids, met great friends, kept my existing friends from school and uni, travelled the world, moved states, the list goes on. Since my marriage ended i dated women, met new friends and now have a new gf and life couldn’t be better. I have had a couple of drinks in last few months just to try it again and it really adds nothing to my life.

 

[Taylor]

Alcohol is great for shrinking your world down smaller with each drink, cutting out more and more of the stress of life each time.

The problem with that is if you drink to much, you shrink it so much that the only thing left is you, and you hate you. More than anything else.

 

[Taylor]

I used to love going out on a Friday night, a couple of shots to tip me over before I start and get home early Saturday morning without too much cash impact.

It would feel like the weekend was extra long, the two or three times a month I'd do it would be so great.

Then I started feeling horrible the next day. I'd go for a 10km run Thursday evening and again Sunday but the Sunday one was getting harder and harder. Soon my tired, run down feeling that I was carrying during the week was flowing over to the weekend.

All the time I spent during the week not sleeping enough for various reasons, promising I'd catch up on the weekend were getting blown out of the water Friday and Saturday night. By the time Monday came around I'd be worse off than I started.

Then I dropped it all, doubled down on my working out and that didn't help, I slept really well but mentally was still cooked.

So I focus my stress release into other areas now. I can't enjoy a glass of wine as much as I used to with the baby anyway.

 

[wal]

It was a woman who drove me to drink, and I never had the courtesy to thank her for it - W.C Fields

 

[Silent Alarm]

There are people on this forum who smoke bongs every single day and have for 35 plus years, and it's seen as 'ahh he's just an old cosmic bloke, looking inward and out, relaxing.' Might not make you fat but the long term effects of weed are intense and playing around with stability, paranoia is dangerous. I mean piss does the same but the double standards are so weird; weed is this natural, cool, chill thing and alcohol is punching on in Northbridge and being 45 and drinking vodka alone. Dunno.

There are also lots of people on here with drinking habits worse than mine but don't constantly post about them. I know that for a fact.

 

[Kram]

There are people on this forum who smoke bongs every single day and have for 35 plus years, and it's seen as 'ahh he's just an old cosmic bloke, looking inward and out, relaxing.' Might not make you fat but the long term effects of weed are intense and playing around with stability, paranoia is dangerous. I mean piss does the same but the double standards are so weird; weed is this natural, cool, chill thing and alcohol is punching on in Northbridge and being 45 and drinking vodka alone. Dunno.

There are also lots of people on here with drinking habits worse than mine but don't constantly post about them. I know that for a fact.

So much this, weed still isn't as bad as booze imo but it really shits me how potheads peddle the myth that the stuff is totally 'harmless'. It isn't.

 

[ioppolo]

Too much of anything will **** you over.

 

[WCErevival]

 

[gaskin]

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No.

 

[WCErevival]

So much this, weed still isn't as bad as booze imo but it really shits me how potheads peddle the myth that the stuff is totally 'harmless'. It isn't.

I always like how regular users will go into a spiel about how good it is medicinally and it's the only thing that helps one of their family members cope etc. That's great but what is that got to do with you using it.

 

[ep2018]

Alcohol is great for shrinking your world down smaller with each drink, cutting out more and more of the stress of life each time.

The problem with that is if you drink to much, you shrink it so much that the only thing left is you, and you hate you. More than anything else.

When you drink you are just borrowing happiness from tomorrow.

 

[estibador]

When you drink you are just borrowing happiness from tomorrow.

Haven't heard that before, that's a good one.

 

[The Speaker]

There are people on this forum who smoke bongs every single day and have for 35 plus years, and it's seen as 'ahh he's just an old cosmic bloke, looking inward and out, relaxing.' Might not make you fat but the long term effects of weed are intense and playing around with stability, paranoia is dangerous. I mean piss does the same but the double standards are so weird; weed is this natural, cool, chill thing and alcohol is punching on in Northbridge and being 45 and drinking vodka alone. Dunno.

There are also lots of people on here with drinking habits worse than mine but don't constantly post about them. I know that for a fact.

The weed lobby is insidious and gaining momentum. Alcohol, on the other hand, has been ever-present (and is certainly less dangerous).

 

[ep2018]

Haven't heard that before, that's a good one.

Someone said it on Reddit a few years ago and its stuck with me ever since.

 

[Scotland]

I've always found that I can have fun without alcohol pretty easily. I had two nice beers with dinner last night and one drink on Friday, and as of 3.30pm today I've had nothing. Weekend has been fine. Last weekend away with mates I probably had 20+ over the course of the long weekend and that was fine. As someone who normally works Monday to Friday the weekend is my only free days so I hate wasting them being hungover.

What I have found is that I really don't enjoy drinking events as a non drinker. Weddings, clubbing, just going to the pub Etc. Any kind of environment where everyone is drinking. I can go to the pub and watch the rugby or something for a couple of hours and only have a pint or two then drive home, but the idea of going to the pub and not having a beer just seems wrong. And I imagine an alcohol free wedding would be torturous. If I was doing something active early Saturday morning and my options for Friday night were go out clubbing, go out clubbing and not drink and not go out clubbing I'd pick the third one every time. Mind you I probably haven't been clubbing in Perth since flip phones were a thing.

 

[Silent Alarm]

Clubbing without alcohol... you mean taking heaps of drugs?

Think there's also something to be said for age. I'm in a state of flux and don't have much to do on weekends. I work and can get through them feeling a bit seedy. If I didn't work I wouldn't do much. If I owned a home or had kids I wouldn't get so pissed I risked feeling crap. I'd potter around or do something with them.

My issue is unlike a lot of young people, I hate drugs. I like drinking though and to me, it makes music sound better, shows funnier, all sorts. I know one drug would suck me in like nothing else and it's heroin, as there's a very distinct link between the two and lots of ex-heroin users end up big drinkers (Bourdain, Albarn).

 

[Beerfish]

The weed lobby is insidious and gaining momentum. Alcohol, on the other hand, has been ever-present (and is certainly less dangerous).

Certainly?

 

[The Speaker]

Certainly?

Yes, as much as the weed lobby wishes it were otherwise.

 

[JackOutback]

Yes, as much as the weed lobby wishes it were otherwise.

I'm hardly an advocate of weed; have probably used it less than 20 times in my lifetime and not in the past decade. But I think most doctors say alcohol is far worse and not solely because of ubiquity. The level of violence that can be associated with alcohol is something that simply can not be associated with weed. For impairment in behaviour and potential diseases, both have their issues. But it's the violence that puts alcohol over the top.

 

[woota]

I'm hardly an advocate of weed; have probably used it less than 20 times in my lifetime and not in the past decade. But I think most doctors say alcohol is far worse and not solely because of ubiquity. The level of violence that can be associated with alcohol is something that simply can not be associated with weed. For impairment in behaviour and potential diseases, both have their issues. But it's the violence that puts alcohol over the top.

The potential danger from weed comes with obtaining it from an unknown/unreliable source (which obviously comes with the territory when dealing with something illegal, which is therefore unlicensed/unregulated). For example, you could get weed from a dealer and not know what they've done do it (what other chemicals they've laced it with). I think that "hydro" (weed grown via an hydroponic indoor setup), is bad news.

 

[Silent Alarm]

I'm hardly an advocate of weed; have probably used it less than 20 times in my lifetime and not in the past decade. But I think most doctors say alcohol is far worse and not solely because of ubiquity. The level of violence that can be associated with alcohol is something that simply can not be associated with weed. For impairment in behaviour and potential diseases, both have their issues. But it's the violence that puts alcohol over the top.

Did you get this from that Streets song?

To say alcohol is related to violence is some okay normal thing but then there's this whole social propagation the world like 'victim blaming.' And no, no woman deserves to get r*ped, and anything else, but people are ****heads regardless of their behaviour. Drinking doesn't excuse it, you're going to go out and punch on regardless. I am a drinker but not a fighter and have never been in a drunken fight. Ever.

Meth is associated with fighting too. Yet it's sort of overlooked.

Weed is ****ing dumb.

 

[Scotland]

Not sure meth is overlooked. Turns people into complete nutcases. At least with booze once you stop drinking you stop being violent.

 

[perthblue]

you need a vice if you wanna be creative

 

[ioppolo]

It's too cold to have a beer in winter for me. I don't enjoy it as much

 

[Catfish Alley]

Depends on the beer I guess. Doesn’t matter too much if you’re in a pub. But yeah, a beer out in the sun is more enjoyable usually.