Food, Drink & Dining Out The Perth Thread - Part 2

[Beerfish]

Yes, as much as the weed lobby wishes it were otherwise.

Odd.

Regardless I think religion certainly has them both trumped for insidiousness along with pain, misery and suffering caused throughout the world.

 

[ioppolo]

Everyone always blames something for all the wars and conflicts of the world. Usually religion is everyone's scapegoat.

News flash, even if religion didn't exist, we'd still have wars and conflicts on a monumental scale.

I'm not even religious but people who use it as a cop out for all the world's suffering give me the shits.

 

[Beerfish]

Everyone always blames something for all the wars and conflicts of the world. Usually religion is everyone's scapegoat.

News flash, even if religion didn't exist, we'd still have wars and conflicts on a monumental scale.

I'm not even religious but people who use it as a cop out for all the world's suffering give me the shits.

That's nice but I'm pretty sure I didn't say that if that was directed at me.

 

[JackOutback]

Did you get this from that Streets song?

To say alcohol is related to violence is some okay normal thing but then there's this whole social propagation the world like 'victim blaming.' And no, no woman deserves to get r*ped, and anything else, but people are ****heads regardless of their behaviour. Drinking doesn't excuse it, you're going to go out and punch on regardless. I am a drinker but not a fighter and have never been in a drunken fight. Ever.

Meth is associated with fighting too. Yet it's sort of overlooked.

Weed is ******* dumb.

No, because I don't live my life by the lyrics of musicians, I prefer research and facts. In no way did I say being drunk excuses violence but there is a clear connection between alcohol and increased violence in some, much like meth (overlooked, ****ing lol, the connection between meth and violence is extensively covered). I drink a bit and have never been involved in a fight either, but anecdotes aren't evidence. Ask an emergency room doctor about the link between alcohol and violence.

As I say, I don't smoke weed, don't care for it, I was simply responding to the idea that weed is somehow worse than alcohol, that's just a lie of its own to justify the popularity of alcohol. Both are drugs with issues for those unable to handle their drugs.

 

[ioppolo]

That's nice but I'm pretty sure I didn't say that if that was directed at me.

Religion has them both trumped for pain, misery & suffering.

You didn't mention wars or anything but you saw a chance for a cheap pot shot at it and took it

 

[Beerfish]

Religion has them both trumped for pain, misery & suffering.

You didn't mention wars or anything but you saw a chance for a cheap pot shot at it and took it

How is it a cheap pot shot? I think it's a perfectly fair comment in the context of the conversation. Do you disagree that religion has more to answer for than alcohol and weed put together when it comes to pain, misery and suffering throughout history?

 

[Scotland]

LOLwat @ not drinking beer in winter.

Perfect time of year for a nice, heavy beer. Like a red ale or a stout/porter if you are that way inclined.

Agree it's not the weather for drinking Coronas outside but then Corona is just lightly coloured water anyway.

 

[ioppolo]

LOLwat @ not drinking beer in winter.

Perfect time of year for a nice, heavy beer. Like a red ale or a stout/porter if you are that way inclined.

Agree it's not the weather for drinking Coronas outside but then Corona is just lightly coloured water anyway.

Stout/Porters are terrible. If it's 18 degrees and raining I'm usually thinking Hot Chocolate or Coffee rather than a cold beer

 

[Beerfish]

Stout/Porters are terrible.

Stout and porters are awesome for cold weather.

 

[Scotland]

You're terrible (Muriel).

Perth needs more mulled wine vendors, though.

 

[quotemokc]

hot toddy

 

[Reynolds Number]

Speaking of porters I miss the days where you could get Tooheys Old on tap.

 

[crafty_bernardo]

Beer and pizza = winter heaven


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[Beerfish]

Also beer & curry.

 

[Scotland]

Also beer and something not pizza or curry.

Beer.

 

[Scotland]

Things that are good about winter:
- wood fires
- soups
- lamb shanks, stews etc.
- dark, heavy beers
- not watering the lawn

 

[Beerfish]

I'd give it all up for more Summer though.

 

[The Speaker]

Odd.

Odd? The tiniest bit of cannabis can affect someone's mind for life. The tiniest bit of alcohol will have little impact.

Regardless I think religion certainly has them both trumped for insidiousness along with pain, misery and suffering caused throughout the world.

Depends on the religion, but the failings of my own aren't due to the beliefs - they're due to the sinful people who hold them. Every human, regardless of what they believe, is inherently selfish, and capable of causing pain, misery and suffering when they act selfishly.

 

[Scotland]

I'd give it all up for more Summer though.

The best thing about Summer is you can still do all of those things (Not that you'd light an indoor fire, though). Plus it's Summer so it isn't shit.

 

[quotemokc]

I always thought that Kambo's sold fitness equipment...

 

[JackOutback]

Odd? The tiniest bit of cannabis can affect someone's mind for life. The tiniest bit of alcohol will have little impact.

Are you seriously suggesting that, say, one bong could cause lifelong mental health issues? Because I don't think that's true at all. Another problem is correlation does not equal causation. Just because someone who smokes weed has mental health issues doesn't mean weed caused said issues. I've known more than one person drawn to weed because it calmed their existing mental health issues.

That's not saying weed won't exacerbate it but I think the issue is far more nuanced than 'weed makes you go crazy'.

 

[Scotland]

I always thought that Kambo's sold fitness equipment...

IIRC there was a Kambo's Retravision then they just spun off and made their own chain.

 

[The Speaker]

Are you seriously suggesting that, say, one bong could cause lifelong mental health issues? Because I don't think that's true at all. Another problem is correlation does not equal causation. Just because someone who smokes weed has mental health issues doesn't mean weed caused said issues. I've known more than one person drawn to weed because it calmed their existing mental health issues.

That's not saying weed won't exacerbate it but I think the issue is far more nuanced than 'weed makes you go crazy'.

What you think is irrelevant compared to the that this has happened to people, and will continue to happen to them. Some people go decades without any noticeable effect (though even then, who knows what they would be like had they never used it), others go off the deep end after one use.

 

[Beerfish]

Are you seriously suggesting that, say, one bong could cause lifelong mental health issues? Because I don't think that's true at all. Another problem is correlation does not equal causation. Just because someone who smokes weed has mental health issues doesn't mean weed caused said issues. I've known more than one person drawn to weed because it calmed their existing mental health issues.

That's not saying weed won't exacerbate it but I think the issue is far more nuanced than 'weed makes you go crazy'.

Don't bother mate.

 

[JackOutback]

Don't bother mate.

It's odd, I've seen him speak quite rationally on topics, but the idea that one hit of cannibis could cause lifetime health problems isn't borne out by any research I've seen. Outside of an overdose, I can't think of any drug that would cause lifetime health effects from the 'tiniest' amount. The human body is remarkably resilient. And that's no more an endorsement of ice or ecstasy as it is cannabis.

Also intrigued about how these side effects square with accepted research into medicinal cannabis.