The Perth Thread

[Teriyakicat]

As far as I'm concerned shit parenting is not the fault/responsibility of the education system or any teacher or teachers.

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it stop taking ice and naming its children Jayden and all that.

It all comes back to your philosophy. If you have an hour lesson with a class of 30, that's 2 minutes per kid - on average. How much time can you dedicate to the worst kid(s) before it is to the detriment of the others?

and why are the quiet studious kids always made to sit alongside the noisy kids, as if hoping the quietness will rub off? more than likely the quiet kids just get distracted and then they can't do their work properly.

 

[Scotland]

Outcomes based education can also eat a dick.

 

[Forward Press]

and why are the quiet studious kids always made to sit alongside the noisy kids, as if hoping the quietness will rub off? more than likely the quiet kids just get distracted and then they can't do their work properly.

I don't do that, but the principle is sound - separate them from the other disruptive kids and at least the effects are mitigated.

Outcomes based education can also eat a dick.

Abolished years ago, thank god.

 

[Scotland]

Abolished years ago, thank god.

What do we have now? Outcomes came in after I finished. I went through A, B, C, D, E and like most people understood pretty clearly how it worked.

And who the **** came up with middle schools?

 

[Silent Alarm]

Whatevs. I want to bring up a truly important issue

Does Transperth still run the 1/2/4am trains on Friday night/Saturday morning still?

 

[Forward Press]

What do we have now? Outcomes came in after I finished. I went through A, B, C, D, E and like most people understood pretty clearly how it worked.

And who the **** came up with middle schools?

It's back to ABCDE. With a C being 50%. The way it should be.

 

[Kram]

Had some very good ones but a lot of the teachers in public schools are completely useless and ****ing stupid. Seriously don't know how some of them managed to even get qualified.

 

[Scotland]

1.15 and 2.15, don't think they have one at 4.

 

[Silent Alarm]

Ah sick, cheers. Still free?

 

[Scotland]

Didn't know it was free in the first place.

 

[gaskin]

Yeah it's still free I think.

 

[Forward Press]

Had some very good ones but a lot of the teachers in public schools are completely useless and ****ing stupid. Seriously don't know how some of them managed to even get qualified.

I'm really sorry to hear that. Unfortunately, like with every other workplace, there are incompetent people at all levels. I hope when you have kids they don't go through the same thing.

 

[Silent Alarm]

I was always told it was free? Probably only used it half a dozen times, never remember paying.

 

[Borry]

Had some very good ones but a lot of the teachers in public schools are completely useless and ****ing stupid. Seriously don't know how some of them managed to even get qualified.

Supply and demand when it comes to teachers looking for jobs.

And I have a good mate who has been struggling to get a permanent job as a primary school teacher, despite having a D average across her degree and doing a masters because getting jobs has a lot to do with 'who you know'.

 

[Scotland]

It's back to ABCDE. With a C being 50%. The way it should be.

I have a good mate who is a primary teacher in a less than amazing area.

He tried explaining 'levels' or whatever the **** it is called to me once, my eyes glazed over.

The worst thing about education is the numpties in Silver City (is that still a thing) who come up with ideas and schemes to get their names in lights.

 

[Borry]

I was always told it was free? Probably only used it half a dozen times, never remember paying.

Always been free whenever I have used it since 5 years ago.

 

[Forward Press]

I have a good mate who is a primary teacher in a less than amazing area.

He tried explaining 'levels' or whatever the **** it is called to me once, my eyes glazed over.

The worst thing about education is the numpties in Silver City (is that still a thing) who come up with ideas and schemes to get their names in lights.

Yes, Silver City is still is a thing, yes, I suspect most teachers agree that outcomes based education was a complete disaster for all involved, and yes I start to suspect public servants (not just in education) come up with these newfangled things so they have something to do in their 9-to-5 Monday to Fridays cubicle life.

 

[Scotland]

Supply and demand when it comes to teachers looking for jobs.

Supply and demand when it comes to going to uni.

Low paying field + low demand for jobs = low ATAR = people going into the field because they can't get into anything else = lower quality teachers = more teacher bashing... it's a seemingly endless cycle.

I've got friends who are permanent in the city having never been to the country. Great for them and great for the schools (they're capable and dedicated from what I have seen) but can't be good for rural education.

 

[Scotland]

Yes, Silver City is still is a thing, yes, I suspect most teachers agree that outcomes based education was a complete disaster for all involved, and yes I start to suspect public servants (not just in education) come up with these newfangled things so they have something to do in their 9-to-5 Monday to Fridays cubicle life.

Darling Range Sports College, Southern River College... FFS.

 

[gaskin]

I've got friends who are permanent in the city having never been to the country. Great for them and great for the schools (they're capable and dedicated from what I have seen) but can't be good for rural education.

Agree but there isn't much incentive- especially for young people in more remote areas. My mates sister did 2 years (plus all her Uni prac) in an indigenous community up north and while she loved it she said a lot of the time she was bored because there is nothing within a couple of hundred kms. Being a dry community didn't help either.

 

[Borry]

Southern River College = Gosnells SHS. Just the same shit under a different name.

 

[The Speaker]

I'm pretty sure OBE was imported from some other country, and was adopted here to fit in with the other states because it was the newfangled way to do things.

 

[Scotland]

Agree but there isn't much incentive- especially for young people in more remote areas. My mates sister did 2 years (plus all her Uni prac) in an indigenous community up north and while she loved it she said a lot of the time she was bored because there is nothing within a couple of hundred kms. Being a dry community didn't help either.

The incentive was GEHA housing and city permanency. Nowadays if you can get permanency without going bush why would you? I mean if I was a teacher I'd take a gig in Broome or Busselton or something but Halls Creek can GTFO.

 

[Scotland]

Southern River College = Gosnells SHS. Just the same shit under a different name.

Yeah I know what schools they are. Turd polishing at its finest.

 

[Forward Press]

The incentive was GEHA housing and city permanency. Nowadays if you can get permanency without going bush why would you? I mean if I was a teacher I'd take a gig in Broome or Busselton or something but Halls Creek can GTFO.

The whole 'do two years in the country and you'll get permanency in Perth' isn't even guaranteed any more, too. As gaskin stated, there isn't much incentive to move out there.

Funnily, my friend just signed for three years at Halls Creek, he's in his early 20s, and he loves it there. He's not a drinker, though, perhaps that's why.