The Questions Thread

[TheFreshBanana]

...those two things do not have anything to do with each other at all...

They go under the category of: things you shouldn't do

 

[craigos]

That's what they all say..

At home it's a free for all of depravity, but at work I try and keep it all above board. After all I did sign an IT Policy form that am sure outlined do's and dont's.

I think the point is TheFreshBanana if they want to market this forum as a friendly, family site that doesn't require users to be over a certain age they maybe should try and avoid ads that aren't reflective of that. I really couldn't give two toss's about it but it does seem rather weird to me (and many others).

 

[Beerfish]

At home it's a free for all of depravity

Sounds like a good doormat - Welcome to our free for all of depravity.

 

[Dylan8]

Always frustrated me how there's little of World War Two taught in senior years of school. Cannot understand it one bit, only the most important event in modern times.

She would've learned a fair bit about Russia's World War One involvement studying the Russian Rev, and similar if she did the Chinese one like I did too.

Year 11 history was the 1900s for me a few years ago. So basically a semester and a bit on the World Wars and the rest on the Cold War. Seemed enough for me - learning about the rise and fall of the Weimar Republic and how the Nazis rose to power. The WW1 segment was fleshed out in revs the next year if you did Russia.

 

[getthefooty]

I love World War history and revolutions history, but Australian history gets too readily dismissed as boring. Just because we haven't had centuries of history like Europe doesn't mean a lot hasn't gone down - and that's without even delving into Indigenous history pre colonialism.

 

[PP34]

Year 11 history was the 1900s for me a few years ago. So basically a semester and a bit on the World Wars and the rest on the Cold War. Seemed enough for me - learning about the rise and fall of the Weimar Republic and how the Nazis rose to power. The WW1 segment was fleshed out in revs the next year if you did Russia.

Did the exact same thing.

Felt like we just skimmed over World War Two. We had about a lesson on it and then spent a term on Vietnam.

 

[Dylan8]

Did the exact same thing.

Felt like we just skimmed over World War Two. We had about a lesson on it and then spent a term on Vietnam.

We spent a great deal of time on the factors leading up to Hitler's rise from the economic strife due to ww1 sanctions and great depression to the propaganda and such. Covered a couple of battles but the war itself wasn't really the important part compared to the rise of a fascist dictatorship and how they come to power in the first place.

 

[BotsMaster]

I love World War history and revolutions history, but Australian history gets too readily dismissed as boring. Just because we haven't had centuries of history like Europe doesn't mean a lot hasn't gone down - and that's without even delving into Indigenous history pre colonialism.

I certainly found studying Australian history boring in high school. Preferred learning about the Egyptians, Vikings, WW1 and WW2.

Think for most of year 9 and 10 it was mainly Vietnam and the Cold War.

 

[Dylan8]

European history is certainly more interesting and theatrical, and it carries a weight of importance especially compared to Australian history. Perhaps the curriculum is not playing to any of the strengths of our history, or the shameful gritty parts. All I can really remember is the Eureka stockade.

 

[PP34]

We spent a great deal of time on the factors leading up to Hitler's rise from the economic strife due to ww1 sanctions and great depression to the propaganda and such. Covered a couple of battles but the war itself wasn't really the important part compared to the rise of a fascist dictatorship and how they come to power in the first place.

Yeah but learning that way would have you believe the Nazis were the only ones in the war.

 

[Dylan8]

Yeah but learning that way would have you believe the Nazis were the only ones in the war.

Well just like previously mentioned you get your Russia build up aswell in revs if you keep doing history the next year. Overall the two years of history in VCE gives you a pretty reasonable rounded view of why and how the wars happened and the aftermath leading to the modern western world.

 

[getthefooty]

I certainly found studying Australian history boring in high school. Preferred learning about the Egyptians, Vikings, WW1 and WW2.

Think for most of year 9 and 10 it was mainly Vietnam and the Cold War.

European history is certainly more interesting and theatrical, and it carries a weight of importance especially compared to Australian history. Perhaps the curriculum is not playing to any of the strengths of our history, or the shameful gritty parts. All I can really remember is the Eureka stockade.

Hey, let's not forget Australia played a role in those wars too.

With Aus history you've got European settlement/invasion and how Australia was formed up until the early to mid 19th century. Then you have the gold rush, and the huge economic and political developments that brought, as you've eluded to with the Eureka stockade. Then working towards federalism - there may not have been any bloody civil wars or revolutionary struggles, but I find the fact we managed to federate relatively peacefully almost equally as interesting. Then involvement in wars, the ANZAC myth (to what extent is Australia's narrative a militaristic one?) the Indigenous struggle in the colonial era, and everything Australia has been involved in the increasingly globalised world post WW2. It's a short (relatively speaking) but rich history IMO.

 

[Gough]

George Megalogenis' last two books are pretty good potted histories of the last forty years in Australia.

 

[BluesMan]

The only history I enjoy is that of evolution. From all the way back to single-celled organisms to the humans of now. Also love Australian Indigenous history (dreamtime).

 

[The Passenger]

Why are kids in year 4 and 5 being taught about asylum seekers and having excursions to the Immigration Museum?

I'm left leaning. I like the basic idea of social security and looking after people who need it. I like people coming into Australia who add something to it. I don't care where they're from... I've always liked living in multicultural places (like Fitzroy has dicks and ******s! Very diverse) but this just seems absolutely ludicrous curriculum.

These kids cannot understand the complexities of the politics involved in fleeing a country, and the politics involved in coming into a new country. How can they? Furthermore, why would they want to? Why can't they go to the zoo or a box factory or something normal? It just seems like political interference by a bunch of arseholes at Education Departments wanting to spread their own ideals. Which isn't surprising, teachers are nothing more than losers who got picked on in school and need an audience of kids to get superiority/ears/eyes/attention/someone to listen to them...

Why don't kids sit down at that age and hear about Aboriginal history? Very relevant, very interesting, and very cool to young kids: cool paintings with interesting stories, you can relate it to plants and animals of Australia which is also cool as a kid, you can talk about dream time stories, inventions unique to the Aboriginals... And you don't have to make it political at all!

Apparently this has been a normal thing in Victorian curriculum for like 10 years?

Why?

I think it's important to start teaching the kids the basics of immigration and refugees from a pretty young age.... 10 is about the right age. The basics would be an overall summation of how many people seek asylum, where people come from and are going to who seek asylum, generically touching on why they are doing so, and trying to form an understanding and empathize with people in these positions.

But yeah, I agree. Getting into the complexities and taking schoolkids to the immigration museum is not really something that needs to happen till they are probably 14 or 15.

 

[PP34]

Well just like previously mentioned you get your Russia build up aswell in revs if you keep doing history the next year. Overall the two years of history in VCE gives you a pretty reasonable rounded view of why and how the wars happened and the aftermath leading to the modern western world.

For World War One yeah. I just think a lot more time could be put into WW2 itself, looking at civilian life, key battles, the leaders etc.

 

[Silent Alarm]

I think it's important to start teaching the kids the basics of immigration and refugees from a pretty young age.... 10 is about the right age. The basics would be an overall summation of how many people seek asylum, where people come from and are going to who seek asylum, generically touching on why they are doing so, and trying to form an understanding and empathize with people in these positions.

But yeah, I agree. Getting into the complexities and taking schoolkids to the immigration museum is not really something that needs to happen till they are probably 14 or 15.

But all of that comes from the empathetic point of view, which in general encourages a point of view of letting them all in. I generally think letting in immigrants is a good idea, but education should be about opening up those dialogues, no writing them in black and white.

 

[Gough]

For World War One yeah. I just think a lot more time could be put into WW2 itself, looking at civilian life, key battles, the leaders etc.

My year twelve Australian History taught that in terms of the evolving role of women.

 

[Dylan8]

We pretty much looked at all of that. My teacher was pretty great though.

 

[PP34]

We pretty much looked at all of that. My teacher was pretty great though.

Yeah I had a decent one in year eleven but my year twelve one went the next level with how she taught.

 

[Hard Ball Get]

Why are kids in year 4 and 5 being taught about asylum seekers and having excursions to the Immigration Museum?

I'm left leaning. I like the basic idea of social security and looking after people who need it. I like people coming into Australia who add something to it. I don't care where they're from... I've always liked living in multicultural places (like Fitzroy has dicks and ******s! Very diverse) but this just seems absolutely ludicrous curriculum.

These kids cannot understand the complexities of the politics involved in fleeing a country, and the politics involved in coming into a new country. How can they? Furthermore, why would they want to? Why can't they go to the zoo or a box factory or something normal? It just seems like political interference by a bunch of arseholes at Education Departments wanting to spread their own ideals. Which isn't surprising, teachers are nothing more than losers who got picked on in school and need an audience of kids to get superiority/ears/eyes/attention/someone to listen to them...

Why don't kids sit down at that age and hear about Aboriginal history? Very relevant, very interesting, and very cool to young kids: cool paintings with interesting stories, you can relate it to plants and animals of Australia which is also cool as a kid, you can talk about dream time stories, inventions unique to the Aboriginals... And you don't have to make it political at all!

Apparently this has been a normal thing in Victorian curriculum for like 10 years?

Why?

I don't know who told you this but it's not true.

 

[Rough_Edges]

heck me mate, bit of a ****ing dire watch that was.

I knew things were pretty shite in Swansea but heck me those poor people.

Addiction is a bloody rotten thing.

 

[worbod]

Is it true that if you receive firewood from a tree which has been struck by lightning, it will be difficult to burn?



Why is it so?

 

[bok_party]

I've been doing some experimenting lately. I'd noticed that whenever you have eaten food and then brush your teeth, your teeth seem to "feel" cleaner for most of the day but if you brush your teeth and haven't eaten, it feels "unclean" if any of this makes sense.

Anyone know why? For the record, mums a dental nurse and I have great dental hygiene so it's not related to that.

 

[TheFreshBanana]

Fun experiment...