Mega Thread The Random Thoughts Thread Part 1

[Doctor Feel]

****ing lost my shit at the felix baumgartner one. The commentary, lol.

 

[edgie]

4 and 5, no.

The change in tone from the darker TESB to the Teddy Bear adventure of ROTJ was a deliberate move by George to move oodles of merchandise.

More than one behind the scenes collaborator left because of it. It's been a cavalcade of shit ever since.

Also didn't help the unions denied him his original choice of directors. Spielberg and Fincher I think.

 

[edgie]

Star wars 7, 8 and 9 are being filmed simultaneously by different directors.

Be prepared for mass produced, cash cow Disney rubbish. Yawn.

Worked for LOTR, except the directors part.

 

[El_Scorcho]

******* lost my shit at the felix baumgartner one. The commentary, lol.

I will never get tired of these

 

[raman]

 

[Magpiespower]

 

[Dylan8]

an interesting economic theory

what if beer was currency

 

[Dylan8]

Did you make that page

 

[Magpiespower]

Did you make that page

AW, HELL NO!!!

Someone sent me a request to like the page.

Yeah, nah, that ain't happening.

SA, going all the way to reform global currency...

 

[Dylan8]

Haha, I thought because it was so new you were totally spruiking your best page on the internet (not to be confused with Maddox's site)

 

[Magpiespower]

Also didn't help the unions denied him his original choice of directors. Spielberg and Fincher I think.

IIRC, Spielberg and Ron Howard begged Lucas to direct one of the prequels... but George said no.

Probably still traumatized by not being able to control a veteran director like Kershner on Empire.

Shame because Lucas' static direction is among the many problems with those horribly flawed prequels

But shit, that's gonna happen when you sit in a booth and make actors stand in front of a green screen all day long for the whole shoot.

Also, the original trilogy scripts went through a shitload of rewrites.

Empire and Jedi also had Kasdan, one of the greatest screenwriters of all time...

 

[edgie]

IIRC, Spielberg and Ron Howard begged Lucas to direct one of the prequels... but George said no.

Probably still traumatized by not being able to control a veteran director like Kershner on Empire.

Shame because Lucas' static direction is among the many problems with those horribly flawed prequels

But shit, that's gonna happen when you sit in a booth and make actors stand in front of a green screen all day long for the whole shoot.

Also, the original trilogy scripts went through a shitload of rewrites.

Empire and Jedi also had Kasdan, one of the greatest screenwriters of all time...

George was too far gone, but he did pretty much finance Phantom Menace out his own pocket.

His divorce was bad too as his wife acted like a sounding board for him for Star Wars and Empire.

George is still an independent film maker despite his success, and unfortunately that meant he pretty much picked his own crew of yes men.

It's not like Kershner set the world on fire, his most notable films other than Empire are a let down of a RoboCop sequel, and an alternative, inferior version of a Bond film.

George Lucas is a real enigmac flawed genius of a film maker. Has undoubtedly more misses than hits, but his few hits were world changing and industry classics.

 

[Magpiespower]

George was too far gone...

Yeah, he had TOO much power on the prequels.

Kershner's direction is so understated and elegant in Empire.

Nature of the industry that a director often gets way too much credit when the film's a hit.

And often cops way too much blame* when it's a flop...





*When it can't all be pinned on the writers.

 

[AdsGoNads]

Self-explanatory. Dunno if there's another one of these threads floating around.

So I just learned that Brett Ebert is our third highest goalkicker in our AFL history. If he kicks 12 more goals before the end of his Port Adelaide career, he'll be second. That's depressing.

Do you still get these days Brother?

 

[Boss351]

IIRC, Spielberg and Ron Howard begged Lucas to direct one of the prequels... but George said no.

er no, George asked Spielberg and he said its not his type of genre, they both said its your space opera you should take the helm

Probably still traumatized by not being able to control a veteran director like Kershner on Empire.

Lucas actually took a smart risk picking Kershner, Irvin hadn't directed anything of great note before hand or after unless you class a remake of James Bond Thunderball with Never Say Never Again or RoboCop 2, he had no issues with Kershner on Empire and gave him freedom for all his input, he admired Irvin from film school and chose him because he wasn't Hollywoodized and was good at developing characters

Shame because Lucas' static direction is among the many problems with those horribly flawed prequels

But shit, that's gonna happen when you sit in a booth and make actors stand in front of a green screen all day long for the whole shoot.

Yeah that can't be disputed

Also, the original trilogy scripts went through a shitload of rewrites.
Empire and Jedi also had Kasdan, one of the greatest screenwriters of all time...

other then being co screen writer for ESB,ROTJ, and Raiders the rest of his efforts are very ordinary unless you're a big fan of Silverado and Dreamcatcher


edit...
hahaha shit edgie posted pretty much everything I was typing in between being slow to post and bracing my house mid storm

 

[edgie]

Did Ebert ever end up cracking it? How many did he kick in 2012n

 

[edgie]

I had always thought since Lucas wasn't unionised and Speilberg was, he wasn't able to directed one of Lucas's films.

 

[chiwigi]

er no, George asked Spielberg and he said its not his type of genre, they both said its your space opera you should take the helm



Lucas actually took a smart risk picking Kershner, Irvin hadn't directed anything of great note before hand or after unless you class a remake of James Bond Thunderball with Never Say Never Again or RoboCop 2, he had no issues with Kershner on Empire and gave him freedom for all his input, he admired Irvin from film school and chose him because he wasn't Hollywoodized and was good at developing characters



Yeah that can't be disputed



other then being co screen writer for ESB,ROTJ, and Raiders the rest of his efforts are very ordinary unless you're a big fan of Silverado and Dreamcatcher


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hahaha shit edgie posted pretty much everything I was typing in between being slow to post and bracing my house mid storm

He should just produce.

 

[raman]

I had always thought since Lucas wasn't unionised and Speilberg was, he wasn't able to directed one of Lucas's films.

Ever hear of Indiana Jones?

 

[Boss351]

I had always thought since Lucas wasn't unionised and Speilberg was, he wasn't able to directed one of Lucas's films.

yeah originally George wanted Speilberg to direct Empire, but after all the struggles he had with Star Wars and studios giving him the run around and old out dated studio execs trying to undermine him and stuff up his creative vision, he used the money from Star Wars toys to finance the rest of his movies and never have to be reliant on and over ruled by the studio system.

He resigned from the academy and screen actors guild so because Speilberg was still a member he couldn't hire him for the Empire job, all changed later on after Empire when he became powerful and accepted and ended up like everything he despised ...a giant empire , Spielberg then directed the Indy series

can't hate the man though he has a social conscience with his philanthropic efforts

 

[Boss351]

Ever hear of Indiana Jones?

lol heck I'm so slow at finishing my posts tonight that by the time I finish posting you and edgie beat me to the punch

 

[Magpiespower]

er no, George asked Spielberg and he said its not his type of genre, they both said its your space opera you should take the helm

Spielberg must've tweaked his story a bit over the years coz this was him back in 2002...

“I've asked him. He won't let me do one. I wanted to do one fifteen years ago, and he didn't want me to do it. I understand why – Star Wars is George's baby. It's his cottage industry and it's his fingerprints. He knows I've got Jurassic Park and Raiders. But George has Star Wars and I don't think he feels inclined to share any of it with me."

Obviously, he's talking about Jedi re: 15 years ago. But he "helped out" on some of the animatics in Ep III.

other then being co screen writer for ESB,ROTJ, and Raiders the rest of his efforts are very ordinary unless you're a big fan of Silverado and Dreamcatcher

Well, they're his credits... and that can be the most egregious way to judge a screenwriter.

Lucas gracefully gave Leigh Bracket a credit for Empire out of respect. She died not long after handing in her draft. Pretty classy by George because her draft is a mess...

 

[edgie]

yeah originally George wanted Speilberg to direct Empire, but after all the struggles he had with Star Wars and studios giving him the run around and old out dated studio execs trying to undermine him and stuff up his creative vision, he used the money from Star Wars toys to finance the rest of his movies and never have to be reliant on and over ruled by the studio system.

He resigned from the academy and screen actors guild so because Speilberg was still a member he couldn't hire him for the Empire job, all changed later on after Empire when he became powerful and accepted and ended up like everything he despised ...a giant empire , Spielberg then directed the Indy series

can't hate the man though he has a social conscience with his philanthropic efforts

Admirable is a way.

Ironic, but admirable.

 

[I Dont Care]

Why do all the bad things taste so good and all the good things taste like bland shit. Life is a cruel joke and I'm sure laughter is being had

 

[Boss351]

Spielberg must've tweaked his story a bit over the years coz this was him back in 2002...

“I've asked him. He won't let me do one. I wanted to do one fifteen years ago, and he didn't want me to do it. I understand why – Star Wars is George's baby. It's his cottage industry and it's his fingerprints. He knows I've got Jurassic Park and Raiders. But George has Star Wars and I don't think he feels inclined to share any of it with me."

Obviously, he's talking about Jedi re: 15 years ago. But he "helped out" on some of the animatics in Ep III.

yeah you're right Magpiespower , so many interviews they contradict each other, Lucas has never liked directing, he prefers producing and editing, his 'tinkering' the fans just love

“I've asked him. He won't let me do one." is a bit wishy washy especially considering Lucas has no control of the series now so he could have been part of the new trilogy or spin offs if he really wanted in, but I guess he feels it isn't his genre and moved on

it's funny how much the prequels and Lucas are bashed these days yet people flock to generic super hero movies in their droves or the never ending remakes, Hollywood is creatively bankrupt