Mega Thread The Random Thoughts Thread Part 1

[Portia]

There's 1100 unoccupied homes in Broken Hill, but ain't nobody renting them for less than 300pw, or selling for less than 300k. There's room and there's infrastructure, **** there's even then oldest inland Mosque in Australia, but houses will still need to be built.

So you think refugees won't build places to live themselves if they get a bit of land? As an nation we have done this exact thing before. I wouldn't exist if it wasn't for the nation's migrant programs, both post-WWII, but also back in the early days of Australian white settlement. People will build their own homes from whatever they can, and that assuming we can't afford cheaper combined accommodation.

How much money do we suddenly bring back into availability if we stop ****ing around with Nauru and Transfield and shit like that?

Right now I can see 62.6 hectares of arable land on ruralview in country victoria for $490k. With adequately sized individual houses, there's a over a thousand homes right there. Spring fed dam provides permanent water. Power runs adjacent and access is excellent. Thats land for a thousand homes with upwards of 3000 migrants settled if you let them live there, for less than the cost of one inner city Melbourne flat.

People will build communities, they just need a chance.

 

[I Dont Care]

We could do all of those and more if we wanted to.

- We have huge amounts of land to settle people in
- Australia produces enough everything to feed every one of those people if we prioritised it.
- We have the best conditions for solar power in the world, water falls from the sky.

A place to call home, enough food to live on, and a bit of opportunity. If thats all we promised those refugees, they'd take it, I'm sure.

Disagree due to water shortage. We have had some reasonable years lately...wait until there is another Australia wide drought. I live in a pretty well watered area, but in 2002/3 our town ran out of water, due to the shortsightedness of conservational minded people who opposed a weir due to...frogs. Sydney almost ran out of water in 2008, the population has grown since then, I don't think the dams have

 

[Portia]

Disagree due to water shortage. We have had some reasonable years lately...wait until there is another Australia wide drought. I live in a pretty well watered area, but in 2002/3 our town ran out of water, due to the shortsightedness of conservational minded people who opposed a weir due to...frogs. Sydney almost ran out of water in 2008, the population has grown since then, I don't think the dams have

We should be building desal plants for existing urban populations, regardless of migrants.

Rain still falls from the sky. Even in drought so much water is pulled from the Murray to feed water-intensive crops that shouldn't be being grown from it. Someone earlier in this thread pointed out industrial waste of water. It exists, and if resources are split more sensibly we can access it.

 

[I Dont Care]

We should be building desal plants for existing urban populations, regardless of migrants.

Rain still falls from the sky. Even in drought so much water is pulled from the Murray to feed water-intensive crops that shouldn't be being grown from it. Someone earlier in this thread pointed out industrial waste of water.

Yes rain falls from the sky, but we have already drained aquifers quicker than they can replenish. The remaining wild rivers that have little or none water harvesting are already locked away for conservation. The Atherton Tablelands, being naturally well watered, should become the premier food bowl of the nation to release strain on the Murray Darling, but left wing politics will not allow this

 

[Doctor Feel]

 

[Steve Dore]

..... Even in drought so much water is pulled from the Murray to feed water-intensive crops that shouldn't be being grown from it. .......

Had to laugh the other night when they had people from Broken Hill on the ABC News whinging about the release of water for SA from the Menindee Lakes being responsible for the lake level being so low. Nothing to do with Tandou Farms aka Tandou Cotton.

 

[JimmyBeerCans]

Gay Pride round pffft give it a spell

 

[raman]

Gay Pride round pffft give it a spell

 

[Portia]

Gay Pride round pffft give it a spell

I know, right? Where's `****ing Chicks With Low Standards' Round?

 

[JimmyBeerCans]

I know, right? Where's `******* Chicks With Low Standards' Round?

"The nerds that luv star wars with pet hamsters round" ... be a few here

 

[Portia]

"The nerds that luv star wars with pet hamsters round" ... be a few here

Thats happening on December 18

 

[68vette]

Thats happening on December 18

 

[StuMan]

"The nerds that luv star wars with pet hamsters round" ... be a few here

Well they could have a "I hate everything" round for you, but I'm pretty sure you'd hate that too.

 

[I Dont Care]

Had to laugh the other night when they had people from Broken Hill on the ABC News whinging about the release of water for SA from the Menindee Lakes being responsible for the lake level being so low. Nothing to do with Tandou Farms aka Tandou Cotton.

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It's insane. Rice, grown in inland NSW...where the evaporation levels are massive

 

[raman]

Well they could have a "I hate everything" round for you, but I'm pretty sure you'd hate that too.

Can I suggest Matthew Lobbe Round?

 

[Del165198]

Yep, SA has had 100% of its demand met by wind power on a single day too.
However even though wind and solar can account for nearly 40% of generation capacity in SA, it often falls to supply rates of only 7-10% at times of low wind and at night.
This is an important point due to the high demand during summer nights when people keep their air conditioners on overnight.
SA (and Aus in general) have done a very good job of supporting renewables, however they are only part of the answer.

A very large part. There's no reason we can't move nationally towards 50% renewables (SA is already at ~34% last year IIRC, Tassie obviously much higher with all their hydro) and eventually grow that towards 100% as the technology improves.

The mining industry is in decline. Why can't we as a nation invest in research and education, then maybe we can actually be at the forefront of developing some of these technologies?

We can't switch to 100% renewables overnight, or even in a few years without costing $100s of billions, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be moving toward it.

Abbott slashing the RET was another one of his more stupid movies. campaigner.

I'm hopeful once Turnbull finds his feet, he can actually start putting climate change more on the agenda as he previously mentioned.

With Harper gone in Canada, it's getting to the point where being a fossil fuel industry stooge is becoming politically on the nose (WAY overdue).

BTW, anyone noticed we're about SIX DEGREES above the monthly average for October? Another 'hottest on record' coming up..

 

[Del165198]

Yes rain falls from the sky, but we have already drained aquifers quicker than they can replenish. The remaining wild rivers that have little or none water harvesting are already locked away for conservation. The Atherton Tablelands, being naturally well watered, should become the premier food bowl of the nation to release strain on the Murray Darling, but left wing politics will not allow this

yeah, fk remnant vegetation and biodiversity. let's flatten it and chuck in some farms.

 

[68vette]

Lake Argle/Ord River has massive potential.

 

[Alyx]

Can I suggest Matthew Lobbe Round?

Thirty-second limit for shots on goal extended to five minutes, because... you know.

 

[JimmyBeerCans]

Well they could have a "I hate everything" round for you, but I'm pretty sure you'd hate that too.

Harsh, "Blinkers on Round" for you and Dylan8

 

[I Dont Care]

Lake Argle/Ord River has massive potential.

Did till the birds moved in

 

[I Dont Care]

yeah, fk remnant vegetation and biodiversity. let's flatten it and chuck in some farms.

Yeah...'cause who needs food, hey?

 

[68vette]

Did till the birds moved in

Damn Magpie Geese.

 

[edgie]

So you think refugees won't build places to live themselves if they get a bit of land? As an nation we have done this exact thing before. I wouldn't exist if it wasn't for the nation's migrant programs, both post-WWII, but also back in the early days of Australian white settlement. People will build their own homes from whatever they can, and that assuming we can't afford cheaper combined accommodation.

How much money do we suddenly bring back into availability if we stop ******* around with Nauru and Transfield and shit like that?

Right now I can see 62.6 hectares of arable land on ruralview in country victoria for $490k. With adequately sized individual houses, there's a over a thousand homes right there. Spring fed dam provides permanent water. Power runs adjacent and access is excellent. Thats land for a thousand homes with upwards of 3000 migrants settled if you let them live there, for less than the cost of one inner city Melbourne flat.

People will build communities, they just need a chance.

It's not the old days anymore, just can't live in a tin shack. Dwellings have to meet code these days which costs money and expertise otherwise anyone living there will be evicted. You need professions and trade people and materials, all of which costs money. Are the migrants pockets well lined?

 

[Dylan8]

Harsh, "Blinkers on Round" for you and Dylan8

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